fullymatted.
Back to search
Rennlist

new first time owner-- x51/performance question

Add to repair workspace
Open repair workspace
Original source
18 captured repliesDiscussion pagination complete · Source accounts, not a confirmed diagnosis
THIS DISCUSSION / SOURCE-DERIVED OVERVIEW

Discussion summary

YOUR RESEARCHnew first time owner-- x51/performance question

Leading reported evidence

Replace after they couldn't find a bad plug or coil

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

-MAF gets replaced after they couldn't find a bad plug or coil

new first time owner-- x51/performance question
Frequently discussed work

Recommend could and plugs all around

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

Local Porsche dealer did the PPI, they confirmed the check engine light was a misfire and recommended could and plugs all around.

new first time owner-- x51/performance question
Read full discussion summary

Leading evidence: 'Replace after they couldn't find a bad plug or coil' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Recommend could and plugs all around' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

Source reports, not a diagnosis or a success probability. Counts refer to discussions and can overlap.

Read captured replies

1 matching discussions · 18 captured posts examined · 0 partial discussions

Compare 4 other evidence results

Run back in

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I'm running back in to the dealer on Monday and staying with the car while it's in the shop for the day.

new first time owner-- x51/performance question

Recommend could and plugs all around

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

Local Porsche dealer did the PPI, they confirmed the check engine light was a misfire and recommended could and plugs all around.

new first time owner-- x51/performance question

Replace intake and exhaust

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

May be equally as important do I screw anything up by changing intake and exhaust?

new first time owner-- x51/performance question

Test were done yet (don't know

Suggestion or failed attempt

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

I'll let you know- I don't think Evap purge change and vacuum leak test were done yet (don't know that they weren't-- just don't remember that being stated.)

new first time owner-- x51/performance question
Frequently discussed actions (6)

These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

Recommend could and plugs all around

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

Local Porsche dealer did the PPI, they confirmed the check engine light was a misfire and recommended could and plugs all around.

new first time owner-- x51/performance question

Replace after they couldn't find a bad plug or coil

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

-MAF gets replaced after they couldn't find a bad plug or coil

new first time owner-- x51/performance question

Replace didn't fix the issue

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
1
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that report an unsuccessful attempt
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Unsuccessful attempt · Original poster

Plugs and coils, MAS replaced-- didn't fix the issue.

new first time owner-- x51/performance question

Replace intake and exhaust

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

May be equally as important do I screw anything up by changing intake and exhaust?

new first time owner-- x51/performance question

Run back in

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I'm running back in to the dealer on Monday and staying with the car while it's in the shop for the day.

new first time owner-- x51/performance question

Test were done yet (don't know

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

I'll let you know- I don't think Evap purge change and vacuum leak test were done yet (don't know that they weren't-- just don't remember that being stated.)

new first time owner-- x51/performance question
Coverage and how to read this overview

Counts describe captured discussions, not unique people or a diagnosis. Author identities are not reliably stored. Exact duplicate evidence is counted once across matching discussions; one discussion counts at most once per action/state. Multiple repairs reported together remain a combination. Suggestions and failed attempts do not establish a fix. Matches cover whole discussions and can include related faults, model variants and incomplete threads.

18 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.

  • Rennlist: 1 discussions

0 evidence records excluded for query context · 0 excluded by outcome qualification · 0 adjusted by outcome qualification.

0 acknowledgements have no verified action link; they do not establish a repair result.

Generation: 20261027T171335Z · outcome-qualification-6. Deterministic extraction; no AI model inference. How we use sources

POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

[First-- thanks to Slakker for helping me find the right place for the questions.] First Porsche, wasn't even out of dealership parkinglot and I was already looking online at ways to customize it. Think I have a handle on what was in the x51 package. Didn't see any mention on airflow, and the filter case looks similar to stock. My question is, adding a conical filter, will I still see the increase in HP and throater sound? Has the x-51 package tapped out the increase in performance and sound? May be equally as important do I screw anything up by changing intake and exhaust? Incidentally, the car threw an engine light on day two of ownership. (Dealer has been great trying to make it right, that's not the issue). Feels like a misfire, but they have already changed plugs and coils, as well as well mass air flow sensor. I'm now 2 more hours in on the engine and the light came back, it rode really rough for a while, and goes from sounding fine to sounding again like a its missing. Shop is looking into it, but they seem like they are struggling to find the problem. Any thoughts? Thanks guys

POST 2Original post

Save your money and be glad you got the x-51. The only noticeable increase you'll see is if you don't live in Cali and you can do high flow cats. Info on the car? Be interested if it was one of the problem ones on here earlier that was unloaded.

POST 3Original post

Usually misfire issue gets exponentially more difficult to diagnose after coils, spark pkugs, MAF, evap purge valve change and vacuum leak test. Do you know if it's just a specific cylinder or almost all cylinders? I assume no other error codes?

POST 4Original post

Quotes source post: 13435458

+996. And I think I know where you're going with this. Let's hope that isn't the case.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 13435362

I just randomly looked in that forum for the very first time and saw your 996 post. As stated, cats is the best place to get the HP increase depending on your state. OK has no inspection requirement so incidentally my car is missing it's cats at the moment. The bungs for the post O2 sensors have done a great job of preventing any CEL so far. Muffler, specifically Fister mod, is the best place to upgrade your sound. Also, FYI, Ahsai is the best online technical troubleshooter for 996's in the world! Bold statement I know, but bottom line is you are lucky to have him in your thread.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 13435458

I'm running back in to the dealer on Monday and staying with the car while it's in the shop for the day. I'll let you know- I don't think Evap purge change and vacuum leak test were done yet (don't know that they weren't-- just don't remember that being stated.) Local Porsche dealer did the PPI, they confirmed the check engine light was a misfire and recommended could and plugs all around. No other error codes were given. Dealer I purchased from just did all of them prior to the PPI, and thought after the fact one of the coils was bad when they put it in. ("Sometimes you get a bad one", I think was the quote)

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

To the post requesting details on the car: Northern Nj titled, artic grey, 58,000ish miles. Previous owner took it back the same independent dealer they purchased it from originally and upgraded to a newer vehicle. Thanks everyone for the help. Been a great source of info so far.

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 13435466

I just got a sick feeling!

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 13435458

Check engine Light just went out??? The full timeline- -light goes on durin PPI -MAF gets replaced after they couldn't find a bad plug or coil -second drive into ownership engine wants to stall out and rides rough. -after pulling over and turning it off and on again, light is on, engine sounds like a misfire but otherwise seems ok -another 100 miles till I get it home, and suddenly the light goes out and sounds fine........ Ofcourse! It's scheduled to go back in minday morning for the shop Forman to look it over.

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 13439045

Return the car before is too late and keep looking, enough warnings already.

POST 11Original post

failing fuel pump or crankshaft position sensor

POST 13Original post

Most CEL instances with these cars are dumb things.. loose gas cap, bad MAF, aging O2 sensor, maybe an aging cat. The real stuff never gives a CEL, the engine usually blows up and when it arrives here there's no CEL. Buy a Durametric kit and diagnose it yourself. Its a valuable tool that will save you a ton of money over time, and convenience. http://store.rndeuroparts.com/catalo...ext=durametric

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 13435458

To close the loop here. Didn't return the car. Let the dealer make good on the problem. Codes showed misfire bank 1, cylinder 1/2/3. Plugs and coils, MAS replaced-- didn't fix the issue. Scoping the cylinders revealed fouled fuel injector in cylinder 1. 900 miles later no CEL.

POST 15Original post

Can you post a pic of your car please? Is it a 40th anniversary?

POST 16Original post

Thanks for the update. That great news! Although I had to reread it as I though you found a fuel injector in the cylinders. That would be bad.

POST 17Original post

Quotes source post: 13497567

Great news. It would've been a shame to return a car like that.

POST 18Original post

Quotes source post: 13435362

I saw someone ask this before but I don't think you replied - do you have a 40th anniversary 911?

This is a source reference. Confirm exact model applicability in the original material.