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I think it would be wise to check the cam deviation and oil filter for debris in case it's IMSB related.
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Not much you can do on a gas station parking lot if the engine's sick anyhow, other than to check the gas cap and the oil filler tube cap.
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If car is running and no strange noises and light is not flashing go to nearest autoparts store to get code read ...(after checking oil and coolant are ok)....
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Regardless of no apparant symptoms, I think you should get it scanned by a Porsche specific scanner such as Durametric and also check the oil filter.
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If car is running and no strange noises and light is not flashing go to nearest autoparts store to get code read ...(after checking oil and coolant are ok)....
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Car has been running great since I got it about a year ago. Did the IMS proactively right when I got it. Running fine, pulled off to get gas. 2 minutes after getting gas check engine light comes on. No noise, sounds normal, temp fine, oil pressure normal. Pulled over not to risk it. Will get it towed to stealership to play it safe. Any ideas??? Thanks in advance. Ps has 29k miles on it.
If car is running and no strange noises and light is not flashing go to nearest autoparts store to get code read ...(after checking oil and coolant are ok)....
You can buy a cheap odb reader from Amazon , carry it on trunk ... For future diagnosis ....
As others have indicated, a flashing CEL usually means "don't drive your car any further!" Since you've already had your cab towed to the dealer, ask them to tell you what code or codes came up and post them. Going to Hoffman Porsche? My wife is from West Hartford. Mty '99 Porsche had a PPIdone there in 2006.GL
The check engine light illuminates for just about anything out of the ordinary that primarily affects emissions-related items. Things like the gas cap, a sensor that's reading out of range, etc. Note your panel said drive to workshop; probably don't have to tow it.
Now, if the CEL is FLASHING, that usually means something drastic is going-on, like sudden and severe coolant loss, oil pan came off (attempt at humor there...), etc. MAJOR stuff that you should immediately shut-down the engine.
Concur with just stopping at an Autozone or similar store to get the code read. While the majority of inexpensive code readers will not RECOGNIZE a Porsche code, they *will* give you the numeric code. With the code, you can post on here or other forums and we'll help you translate.
I have both a Durametric and a Harbor Freight reader. The HF reader will just say something like "mfg specific code", but will give something like P0301 or other code. Google will help as well.
With 29K miles on the car the car is still "new". (Since the factory warranty is 4 years, 50K miles I classify any car even those more than 4 years old but with less than 50K miles "new".)
So a "new" car can have any number of problems. You did the right thing with the engine feeling a bit down on power to have the car flat bedded to the dealer.
Not much you can do on a gas station parking lot if the engine's sick anyhow, other than to check the gas cap and the oil filler tube cap.
Here's hoping it is nothing serious -- it probably isn't serious -- and be sure to come back with an update.
What type of scanner was used and any work done on the engine before? Per Porsche, this code is the bank 1 intake camshaft timing too advanced and bank 1 will need to be re-timed to correct it.
I think it would be wise to check the cam deviation and oil filter for debris in case it's IMSB related.
No engine work. 100% stock. Had IMS done proactively 2k miles ago (at 27k) when I first got the car. Scanner I used was loaned to me by a buddy (Veepeak). Not sure if it matters but was 100 degrees out when error occurred. No leaking oil. No overheat, no lost oil pressure. Engine sounds normal.
This is not a very common code but I think we should treat it as accurate to be safe. Regardless of no apparant symptoms, I think you should get it scanned by a Porsche specific scanner such as Durametric and also check the oil filter. Also best not runnng the engine until it's fully diagnosed and fixed.
Nope. Did oil / filter change 2k miles ago (kept filter that was removed. No metal or anything at all) when IMS and clutch was done. No engine work other than that. Dealer did IMS install and gave some warranty (I have to look up exactly what it was) if it's related at all... Sigh. Car is sitting at dealership now until they can look at it.
Dealership is working it.. metal in the oil...
Have to pull the engine to go any further... $1,500 right there...
L&N single row IMS was installed by dealership less than 2K miles ago (at about 27k miles) proactively following L&N procedures... org. IMS was shipped back to L&N as required (dealership gave me pictures, was limited wear on orig.). I kept the oil filter they took out when they did the L&N install also.
If this is IMS related has anyone had experience dealing with warranty on it??
Thank you!!
By "limited wear" on the original, do you mean that it was no longer completely sound (there was play and/or visible signs of wear)? If so, that's a bummer - dealership should have advised you that your previous bearing was already failing and slapping a new one in wasn't a guaranteed fix. (I know that a perfectly intact original bearing replaced with a retrofit bearing is also not a guaranteed fix, but it's certainly a better scenario).
This would be a very good time to dig out that paperwork and find the details for the warranty you referenced.
Sorry that you seem to be in a bad situation right now - I hope there is some good news waiting.
Would you have recommended a different course of action if OP's car had not been "new" per your classification system?
You should give Charles a call at LN Engineering. They will explain what you need to know.
http://lnengineering.com/resources/contact-us
BTW - there are other sources of engine metal in filter besides the IMSB, although it is the most common cause if it indeed failed. You will have to get to the bottom of it in any case. Given the original CEL code as "A" camshaft over advanced and now "metal in the oil," this could be a lot of diagnosis work.
Hoping it works out ok and not too pricey. That CEL symbol "drive to shop" is Not the normal, "hey doofus, you didn't tighten the gas cap" as those of us who have seen it now know.
The flashing MIL is indicative of a fault that may cause immediate damage to the emissions equipment, like misfires resulting in unburned fuel being dumped into the cats.
If the light's on - whether it's blinking or solid - pull over and read the codes. IMO, having an OBD-II reader in the car - especially for cars not under warranty - is as important as a spare tire or a set of jumper cables.
Maybe he has a blue tooth OBDii? I do, one in each car I own. They are super cheap on Amazon so why not. Combine that with the Torque app on your phone and there's no need to get a big computer to lug around.
My friend has a Android car deck, everything is streamed live from the ECU right to his car deck/torque app. Its really neat
Coop, do you think or know the dealer was quite experienced with IMS retrofit at the time when they did yours a year ago? 2k miles is extremely short for a ceramic bearing to fail so installation and pre-qualification checks will likely come into question. It's good that you have at least the old oil filter as proof.
I generally have a smartphone in whatever car I'm driving if a code comes up that needs to be researched. As AWDGuy, Mark I, and Ahsai all guessed, I use an OBD-II dongle and my Galaxy S5 most of the time.
However, yes, most days I _do_ have my laptop in my car, since the 996 is my DD. I keep my Durametric in my laptop bag; while I haven't ever used it on the side of the road, I am fully prepared for roadside diagnostics should the need arise.
I have a corded standalone OBD-II scanner in the Corvette since (a) it does not tend to throw mysterious codes, and (b) most LT-1 problems can be fixed with a rock, stick, hammer, or other blunt and heavy object. A little-known fact about Gen 3 Corvettes is they only have four diagnostic trouble codes:
1) One of them sparky thangs ain't workin'
2) Ain't no gas!
3) One of the Cadillac converters is actin' up
4) The rag fell out of the gas pipe. Again.
Note a wifi dongle talks to your iphone (or other iOS devices) directly via WiFi and not to your wifi router at home. The dongle acts as an access point (with an SSID and password) so you just associate your iphone's wifi with it.
Absolutely. The communication is between the iphone and the dongle only. No other access points or wireless routers are needed.
Plug in the dongle (key on engine off) and go to the "WiFi" setup page of the iphone. The dongle will show up as an access point. So just click and connect to it (with the correct password). Once connected, you just fire up the OBD fusion app.
How awful to have to deal with this all of a sudden.
[Sidebar: Re OBD2 readers, anyone have experience with
BlueDriver
? It comes at a premium and is pretty much the only alternative to Fusion for iOS, but the reviews on A seem to suggest good things.]
Not to further derail the thread, but I bought this off Amazon. Works with both wifi and bluetooth, android and iPhone. Works great.
Panlong WiFi OBD2 for Android iOS(iPhone iPad),Car Diagnostic Scanner,Check Engine Light,Read &Clear Diagnostic Trouble Codes
by Panlong
Price: $16.99 |
