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Replace however, i filed an insurance claim and the engine

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However, I filed an insurance claim and the engine was replaced for free.

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If your front drains, in the pan under the battery, are clogged rain can fill the pan to the point where it can be pulled into the engine through the brake booster vent.

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If your front drains, in the pan under the battery, are clogged rain can fill the pan to the point where it can be pulled into the engine through the brake booster vent.

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Okay I really won't, but I wonder how insurance companies handle a claim like this because it seems too easy to intentionally set the car up for engine failure.

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If your front drains, in the pan under the battery, are clogged rain can fill the pan to the point where it can be pulled into the engine through the brake booster vent.

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However, I filed an insurance claim and the engine was replaced for free.

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Okay I really won't, but I wonder how insurance companies handle a claim like this because it seems too easy to intentionally set the car up for engine failure.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

we have a 996 that has less than 25K miles. it's been my daily driver for the past 3 months after being a garaged "toy" for the previous 5 years. it was parked at the airport for the past 10 days and when i got in tonite, when i went to start it, it was hesitant to start, gave a large backfire noise and then caught. (we had some pretty heavy rain the past couple of days.) there was acceleration, but not as powerful as usual. halfway home, the check engine light came on, then the coolant warning light came on. i let it rest for about an hour and when i went to turn it on again, nothing happened. i'm calling my mechanic in the morning, but just wanted some moral support as i envision the worst for my "baby."

POST 2Original post

do you have access to a durametric scanner? You may want to post this over at renntech.com and see if there's a durametric or Porsche diagnostic scanner in your area that can help. btw when you went to restart the car - what happened? did it turn over? Are there lights?

POST 3Original post

Strange as this sounds you might have sucked water into the engine through the brake booster. If your front drains, in the pan under the battery, are clogged rain can fill the pan to the point where it can be pulled into the engine through the brake booster vent. If "the large backfire noise" was a cylinder "D" chunking you might have created some real engine problems. If you could define "nothing" a little better we might have more info to share??? Please let us know what the diagnosis is.

POST 4Original post

check for water up in the battery area - I agree...doenst sound good - hope the diagnosis is an easy fix.....

POST 6Original post

The car is punishing you for leaving it out in the rain, in airport parking, for 10 days straight. Do you hate your car or something?

POST 7Original post

Mine was hesitant to start a couple weeks ago, the day after washing it. I waited a couple minutes, and then she fired right up again as normal, no other symptom since.... Okay, that's my encouragement for ya! Let us know.

POST 8Original post

That sucks. Hoping against all hope that its no big deal.

POST 9Original post

I concur with the idea that water could have been sucked into the engine through the brake booster because...thats exactly what happened to me. It hydrolocked and ruined my engine However, I filed an insurance claim and the engine was replaced for free. That's the good news for you.

POST 10Original post

Have you been keeping up with clearing the drains in the battery area? You don't mention the year of your 996 but the early ones (first couple to three years) have an issue with water collection in the battery area being sucked into the brake booster--and the rest is history. (See a couple of the above posts).

POST 12Original post

Anyone have a photo of the drains in question? I would hate to have a similar problem, especially since fall is here and leaves can cause clogged drains!

POST 13Original post

Next thunderstorm I'm packing my drains solid with leaves. New engine for the cost of an insurance deductible? Yes please. Okay I really won't, but I wonder how insurance companies handle a claim like this because it seems too easy to intentionally set the car up for engine failure. Of course, now that I've made this post if it ever happened to me I'm sure Progressive would hit me for insurance fraud.

POST 15Original post

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Andy, Look at your drains and make sure they have been upgraded. The newer one have less propensity to clog completely. Also check to make sure your car has been upgraded with the clear VIN window. I added after hear sloshing on my way home one afternoon. a single leaf had blocked the drain.

POST 16Original post

Your story sounds way too familair to me. I truly hope that your result is not the same as mine! Mine did bsaically the same thing, misfired and then started. Ran rough, then died and would not start again. The reason it would not start again was that the cylinder wall had cracked and let coolant in and the motor was hydrolocked. Like I said, I TRULY hope this is not your problem.

POST 17Original post

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Frankly, I'm very surprised that any insurance company would pay that claim. If I were an insurance guy I would chalk it up to inadequate maintenance. Part of the routine maintenance on those cars is a thorough inspection of those drains. I would complain to your service department. Is it a Porsche dealer, or an independent which doesn't see a lot of early 996s? It's just a well known issue on the early 996 and 986 (Boxster) cars. --Clearly not THAT well known!

POST 18Original post

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It's still hard to tell where this drain is on the car!? And, what does the clear VIN window do better?

POST 19 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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DING...DING...DING. Sadly, we have a winner. vehicle is now at the dealership being "evaluated" as to whether they will do anything but i'm not holding my breath. 25K miles and this. what a joke.

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