Tail Lights of a Turbo on a C2?

Hello, who knows whether the tail lights of a Turbo fit for a 996 C2?? Thanks, Juergen

They don't.

turbo and c4s... are the same, not a c2.

Thanks for the fast answer, saves me $ 250, someone has listed the tail lights of a Turbo on EBay for Buy Now, but if they don't firt for my C2 I have to look for other ones.

check this out... http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...-thoughts.html

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Don't post the link to those tail lights because Ed will buy them for his "invisible" GT2!

WOOO Freeking HOOOOO ! ! ! I bought some new tail lights on fleabay today !!! Freaking awesome, I am so stoked... they are turbo lights for my C2 WTF??? No... really?, they wont fit... well i'll be a M*#@#$ Fu#@$^&* Monkey A%$# You back from Germany yet... there was a good get together with a drive today... (I missed it because I am P W and did house work while she went shopping) Hows the tranny - clutch ? get ahold of me when you are home, we can meet for lunch or something Ed

It would be nice to see that manufacturer do that for the 997.1 cars! I can't stand the shape of the tail lights for 997.2. The lighting (LED) is fine, but the droopy tail light shape just doesn't go with the car.

Dan, I don't think that the tail lights on the 997.2 are that bad. While the lines are a little disjointed, Porsche seems to make enough changes to the "face lift" or generation 2 models to distinguish them from the generation 1 cars. Simply making a LED version of the 997.1 lights for the 997.2 cars would not have been enough. A couple of years from now after many of us have gotten used to seeing the LED lights, I think that the 997.1 lights may appear dated to many people.

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+1 then someone with an old C2 can "update" their look by making the 997.1 lights fit in their car, add a GT2 wing and whalla.... New car look!!

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Hi Ed, I'm back from Germany, the clutch feels great and the transmission shifts smooth. Next Saturday we will very likely have a Porsche DIY day with some colleagues from work, in case it takes place I will let you know, maybe you are interested to join. It will be in Woodinville so we could go there and then have a nice drive? - Juergen

glad you are home, and the car is on the road giving you some pleasure! Porsche DIY day? what type of things are we talking about, it might be fun to come up

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A few colleagues are looking in doing some DIY like brakes, someone is talking about a clutch shich will very likely not happen on Saturday, one colleague has an AOS problem. I think it's a get together and chat while doing some smaller work. Sounds like fun and I will stop by and check out what thye do, at least for clutch and AOS we should be the experts.

did you see the PM's I sent you about the headlights? HAHA - experts via, have done it the hard way and learned what NOT to do I do feel way better knowing what we learned putting in the tranny and having both done the AOS from opposite sides of the engine!!

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technically they are the same sides of the engine....

yea yea, but the aproach angle was opposite.. he took his out from the tranny side while doing the tranny swap and new clutch, I took mine out thru the rear deck, with the whole drop the motor and take the intake off......

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so... which was easier to do?

thats a good question as both had their own set of challenges. My way with the intakes off was a complete biach to get the aos in place and the bellows on (for me I was really having a hard time with that) The other way, the coolant lines were a biach as they were up to (from the bottom) and hard to reach, then he cut them short and had to replace one. Access to the bellows was way easier though. If I had to do another one. I would go from the bottom for these reasons: intake gaskets added ~$40 Go from tranny = get to see the clutch area and we know there are things in there that are good to keep an eye on More room - not squeezed into the rear deck working at arms length reach I think it would be faster Seems less risk - like developing an intake leak or droping something into the heads The only trouble is, I didnt see him actually remove it, so I have a grey area there... still with it being faster and there being "other things" worth looking at while you had the tranny out... it gets my vote

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I guess c4 and a tip would be a diff ball game.... I know what you mean about the bellows... I put a screw type hose clamps in place of the of the OEM squeeze clamps... and after a 3 days of DE the bellows tore (clamp pinching the rubber)... then I put the oem squeeze clamps back on... (what a PIA) 45 mins for 2 clamps. OEM clamps is the way to go here...

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Since you didn't see my removing the AOS once I had the tranny out here are my comment: Once the tranny is out replacing the AOS is pretty easy, based on Ed's recommendation I cut the old hoses because the clams were to tight, it took my maybe 10 minutes having the old out and the new in. Then I had to replace 1 hose which was ok. Getting then the tranny in was an ok job if you have a helping hand, thanks to Ed I had one. i think getting everything back together took us maybe 3 hours, with some practice I think you can do it in 2 hours.

Agreed AWD or Tip would be a whole differant ballgame. How the heck did you get the OEM clamp on! I tried forever and replaced it (however I have hurt my grip in one hand and have only 20% strength in that one, which was less than I needed)

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yeah, its a bit tricky.... and the 20% strength is enough to tighten a pair of vise grip (sorry to hear about your hand.... maybe you should switch hands once in a while when you..... uhhhh nevermind). You need a small needle nose vise grip... but use a pair of pliers to tighten the adjustment on the vise grip (squeeze the hose clamp all the way down to maximum diameter). Like this the clamp is not going anywhere... and you gain leverage by using the vise grip to position the clamp and hose on the AOS....(you do the top one first). Use the same technic for the bottom... slip the clamp (by using the vise grip) through the belllows... insert the bellows on the crank vent... slip the clamp in position.... release the vise grip from the clamp and viola!!!! here is the wear from the screw clamps (see the hole) use plier to tighten vise grip and clamp down hard.... if you cant tighten it down, ask your son to do it.

Ed, What happened to your hand? Is it a temporary or a permanent loss of grip?

Great idea Red... Damn, I didnt even think of that - I got frustrated and went to the indy shop. Asked how they do it. He had some cute (and expensive) tool from Snap-On and then said, why dont you just use a regular clamp - DOH ! - so thats what I did The hand story - (long) every year I pack up the suburban with about 4 Adults and 4-5 kids and we take a couple other cars full and head over the mountains to the east side of the state (where it is warm enough to grow food) and go Cherry Picking. The trees are so full, its amazing! We have friends who have a very small and organic orchard we go to. My job is to drive the truck, sit under the trees, eat cherries till I am full of them and watch the kids play n the sprinklers while the adults pick cherries to take home. By doing this we normally end up paying about $50/pound so its not a good deal, its fun, and a great day with the family. This last year, my wife ... how do I say, had a sickness that comes along frequently for women, so she wasnt in the mood to be climbing trees. Up the ladder I go all armed with my bucket. I swear 3 minutes was all it took and the ladder folded up, I came flying down, head first!! The firt thing to hit the ground was my hand, then my entire body weight slammed onto my wrist forcing it to bend backward in a possition that I can only describe as "Steven Segal" style. - So off the the hospitol, X-rays, scans, blah blah blah, home and more of the same, followed by physical therapy, followed by more.... and this is how it is. Serious pain for 2+ months to the point of any side movement almost made me cry. So it hurts most of the day, when its cold its worse, and the pain is only discomfort unless I bang it sideways. The strength is about 20% after almost a year (up from < 5%) and there is a bump thru my palm from my ring finger to my wrist. Now its just work on it till it gets better, but I know it will never be 100% again. By the way, I only picked one pound of cherries, man was my wife pissed at me <kidding>

sucks about your hand.... keep doing the exercise it'll only get better. The good part is... the other hand will get stronger to compensate for the weaker link.

Oh ****, that sounds like it hurt!!!!!!! I am really sorry to hear about that. Speaking of "climbing ladders" (you may have seen this in one of my other posts but I enjoy posting it) we had a light burn out in the kitchen (10' ceilings) so I told my wife I would get the ladder and change the bulb. Well, she was on her way out the door to go shipping, and being the thoughtful person that she is, she told me that I was too old to be climbing on ladders. She suggested that I get one of the neighbors to do that. So being the obedient husband that I am I asked a neighbor for some help. I decided that he very least I could do was to hold the ladder for my neighbor. I may be old, but I ain't stupid!

That looks like a strurdy ladder, just looking at it almost made me a little "sturdy!"