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I thought this month's issue is a real good one with articles on the first Convertible D, an early 911 fuel injection conversion, and one by a Canadian guy who got on the slippery slope with a paint job on his old 911.
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OK - but is a tip a + or - in terms of used value?
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I thought this month's issue is a real good one with articles on the first Convertible D, an early 911 fuel injection conversion, and one by a Canadian guy who got on the slippery slope with a paint job on his old 911.
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Only had one issue when the pop off valve didn't work and I put a big hole in my air filter.
The Sept. 2008 edition of Excellence (out now) contains the Porsche market update for 996 and Boxsters. It also contains (IMHO) a sane summary of the issues early 996s and Boxsters experienced.
"We feel used 986s and 996s offer superior dynamics, real comfort, modern safety, everyday usability, and real value. Buy smart and you'll have a ball."
Excellence is a good read, and helped me decide to purchase a MY99 996 almost 2 years ago. I really enjoy my Porsche and will no doubt own another 996 when the right one comes along(GT3 or turbo).
I thought this month's issue is a real good one with articles on the first Convertible D, an early 911 fuel injection conversion, and one by a Canadian guy who got on the slippery slope with a paint job on his old 911.
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Actually I'm amazed at how Excellence is consistently, er, excellent!
Man, I've really got a hankerin' for an early 911... should've gotten one of those years ago.
You do, eh? Go for it, Dave. I'll be the first guy on the block to congratulate you!
(I can't imagine being without either of my 911's -the '84 and the '00)
It's funny that you mention that, a good friend of mine has an '84 911 Targa(Turbo look) and I have a 2000 Carrera. I have a complete blast every time I drive his Targa.
I love my 996, but his Targa is so raw and mechanical feeling in every way that I feel as though I am driving a pure race car when compared to my 996. If I had more garage space I would seriously consider adding a mid-80s 911 to my collection.
I'd love to have an early 70's 911S. When I was in my late teens, I had a 67 912, and holy crap that car was so much fun to drive - fairly slow, but I felt directly connected to the road and it was just a total blast to drive. An early 911S would be AWESOME - I don't care if they aren't super fast or anything, they'd be fast enough to have a great time.
El Torrente, that's interesting you would mention the early 911S. I have my friends 75 911S sitting outside my office. We just finished rebuilding it for him and will deliver it to him tonight. I agree the feel is incredible. and RAW. The sound and the smell. Yet I myself am considering whether I would go for a 996 instead of an older 911
man - that must have been sweet as a kid, 911S....well done
I had a 1980 911SC, that car was a beast. sold at 178K miles and it ran as strong as ever when we parted. it leaked NO oil
I had a 79 SC for 4 years and I agree, it was a great 911. Only had one issue when the pop off valve didn't work and I put a big hole in my air filter. Sold mine with only 38k miles on the clock in 1998.
Does anyone happen to have the updated market value issue for 2010? I am looking at getting into a 2002-04 996 Cab and I want to know what kind of price range is realistic. Thanks.
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There have been a lot available. From what I've seen lately. a good range is upper 20's to mid 30's, depending mostly on mileage. You'll have fun. Once you decide your range, you might ask for help from this list. All sorts of deals out there on CL that you might not find elsewhere.
I bought an C2 03 Cab a few weeks ago after about 6 months of research, so I have a pretty good bead on the market. The differentiating factors seem to be mileage, as you might expect, and Tip or Non Tip. The other thing I found is that a lot of these cars that have been living in the South are in need of new tops at this point, so you need to factor that in. Photos hide a lot on this respect but you can get a good read on wear by focusing on the fold point at 3'o'clock to the right of the back window. Pretty good barometer.
Boots is really close in terms of what I saw -- $27-35K depending on mileage. But again, watch those tops!
Its a moot point for the used buyer. Buying new, they tack on a premium, but its depreciated ~70% over original value at this point. It really depends on what you want. I wanted a tip (cab) with <40K miles and didn't pay a premium for it. Got what I was looking for at a good price. Lots of good buys from FL. I think economic conditions have hurt retirees a bit and the pCar has to go.
Best strategy - decide what you want (ext. color, tip or not, price range). Remember that you'll probably be able to knock off a couple grand from asking price. Some CPO cars have ~$2k premium associated with them, but you get peace of mind for a few years. Also, if you need the hardtop (nice here in Denver), plenty out there with them. Be sure to ask or the seller might "forget" to provide it in the sale.
I miss my 86 and 89 911's. Definitely different personalities than the new (99) car. The fact that the 996 is such an everyday capable car is the reason for my switch a year or so ago. For the desert, the earlier cars just had inadequate ventilation and I wasn't driving them except in milder temps. Needed to buy another "AC beater" for the long summer. One of these days I'll get another.
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