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Since there are some avid drivers of the course there possibly are a few that drive porsches who have used both the models concerned on the track after purchasing their cars.

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Run oem tires or r-comps

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Was it running OEM tires or r-comps?

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Was it running OEM tires or r-comps?

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Use 911's have kept their logs of times

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It would seem reasonable that maybe 25% of the avid ring drivers using both 911's have kept their logs of times.

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Start by using a car with the engine in the front...

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It would seem reasonable that maybe 25% of the avid ring drivers using both 911's have kept their logs of times.

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Start by using a car with the engine in the front...

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Since there are some avid drivers of the course there possibly are a few that drive porsches who have used both the models concerned on the track after purchasing their cars.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi, guys. I'm writing about the 3.4 996 and have seen a quote of it being (according to Porsche) 8 seconds faster around the 'Ring 'than the previous model', presumably meaning a 993 C2. Anyone got anything to back this up or disprove it? Thanks.

POST 2Original post

i dont john but im a big fan,really enjoy reading your articles,keep up the goodwork!

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thank you very much. I hope you'll enjoy the piece I'm writing about the 996 and why it's a '911 Groundbreaker'.

POST 4Original post

yes looking forward to it!there seems to be alot of that going around,for instance an article in this months automobile magazine,giving 996s the thumbs up!good to see that,your article for next months issue?

POST 5Original post

993 posted 8:28 in 04' (so a 996 carrera S) posted 7:59 996 GT3 posted 8:03 though... so makes me wonder all listed as "production vehicles" LINK maybe I cant read... check the link

POST 6Original post

The 993 owners will argue you to death about how speed is not everything; looks and the sound their doors make when closing are.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 7279684

Yes, well - leave them to me.

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 7279679

Great - thanks. I've seen Walter R post a time of 8:14 in a 996, so this data should be enough for me to do something with. Thanks, again.

POST 9Original post

john does bob bax have an email? id love to ask some questions about his old yellow 996...thanks

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

You'll be able to reach him via Total 911's forum.

POST 12Original post

LINK #2 this link has a 996 and a 996 C4 8:17 and 8:23 respectively

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 7279702

I think this is him: http://www.total911.com/forum/member...wprofile&u=147

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 7279678

It might just make it, as I've just submitted it...

POST 17Original post

is that on line or where? I would love to have the ring on gaming system !

POST 18Original post

Quotes source post: 7280021

and you might even get to drive one with a gt2 wing on it.

POST 19Original post

I want to drive forward not BACKWARDS!!!! LOL

POST 20Original post

Quotes source post: 7280021

Its a PC game called GTR2, real simulation and you can download different tracks and cars. http://www.gtr-game.com/

POST 22Original post

Most comprehensive list I've seen: http://www.nordschleife.no

POST 23Original post

The times might be in the Dec. '01 or April '02 edition of Excellence. In the article about the C4S, I believe they talk about the times of the C4S and compare them to a GT3, a TT and a C2. I'll try to remember to take a look when I get home tonight (unless someone happens to have access to them now). It's probably on the web site from above, but here's the info from the 4/02 Excellence article: GT2: 7 min 44 sec. TT: 7min 56 sec. C4S: 8 min 16 sec. C2: 8 min 20 sec. (said that last year's, '01 I assume, has a time of 8 min. 24 sec.)

POST 24Original post

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Hey John, yeah that would be a great time in a n/a 996. Breaking the 8 minute barrier is really special, both for car and driver. I drove it back in about '87 in my old BMW and had about 15 minutes, ha.

POST 25Original post

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No, but I hope your info is accurate...I have a MY 99 and love it. I'm a faithful reader of Total 911, and enjoy your contributions a lot.

POST 26Original post

I look forward to seeing the results of your insights. I'm not certain of options in suspensions out of the factory but I am sure those features would make a big difference in times. Since there are some avid drivers of the course there possibly are a few that drive porsches who have used both the models concerned on the track after purchasing their cars. Those persons would have fresh from the factory times. Talking to the track administration could give you a list of persons good to talk to for this info. There could be a club or too around that gegend who could give insight also. It would seem reasonable that maybe 25% of the avid ring drivers using both 911's have kept their logs of times. Have a good one John.

POST 27Original post

I wish the 'ring times would include more information. Even the professional published ones are short on info. What were the conditions that day? Was it running OEM tires or r-comps? Was the suspension modified? Was it lowered? Street alignment or race alignment? Was it stripped bare? Hauling around a couple hundred lbs of rollcage? Etc. Just seeing raw times means very little.

POST 28Original post

I'm sorry but what porsche model is TT? Maybe it means Turbo... ?

POST 29Original post

Quotes source posts: 7286107, 7279935

Yes turbo model. 7.34 in my 600hp GT3.....Forza 3

POST 31Original post

Quotes source post: 7280077

Start by using a car with the engine in the front...

POST 32Original post

Another link supporting the 3.6l 996 C2: 8 minutes, 20 seconds 996 C4S: 8 minutes, 16 seconds laptimes

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