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YOUR RESEARCHIt's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

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first time the car has ever seen

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It was the first time the car has ever seen so much as a scratch.

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.
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Wow, but I'm thinking (could be wrong) that a windshield is cheaper than the front hood (repainting and repairing).

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.
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same spot as in the video

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The actual strike that broke it was the same spot as in the video.

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

Run around 100 miles

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I think we ran around 100 miles that day.

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

guys cigar until it smashed the windshield

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It was a neat story at the next stop especially since I thought it was the guys cigar until it smashed the windshield.

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

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Wow, but I'm thinking (could be wrong) that a windshield is cheaper than the front hood (repainting and repairing).

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.
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Wow, but I'm thinking (could be wrong) that a windshield is cheaper than the front hood (repainting and repairing).

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

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However, I was telling my tale to a friend who owns a auto repair shop.

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

Replace life does it

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Wow, doesn't take much to change your life does it?

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

Run around 100 miles

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I think we ran around 100 miles that day.

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

Run with these guys

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I like running with these guys because they don't do things like that.

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I used it for these two test runs - with a Flip MinoHD camcorder - first video is mounted outside on the 996, 2nd is mounted inside windshield on the Land Rover

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.
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first time the car has ever seen

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It was the first time the car has ever seen so much as a scratch.

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

same spot as in the video

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The actual strike that broke it was the same spot as in the video.

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

guys cigar until it smashed the windshield

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It was a neat story at the next stop especially since I thought it was the guys cigar until it smashed the windshield.

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Why go to the casino when you can lose $400 on the road.

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Ed, Bummer! At first I thought you got a ticket! Great video, though. Time for me to meet up w/ you guys again. That's a GREAT road.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

No....I thought the guy in front threw his cigar in the air....I was thinking, "What the heck?" ....down there in San Diego County you'll be linched for doing something like that. Then bam! It even put glass on the passenger seat.

POST 4Original post

That sucks. I am impressed that you kept rolling. I would have pulled over in disgust

POST 5Original post

Some big *** bugs you guys have down there... Sorry man, that sucks -

POST 6Original post

majorly stinks! that huge bolt could have gone thru your windshield and done you some damage. good thing its just the windshield and you are ok.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

More photos from the day. Note the Rennlist sticker..... . . .

POST 8Original post

that's awful. is that guy going to pay for a new windshield?

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Who the guy who made the bolt? Probably not. I'm sure he'd be hard to track down. There's bigger things to worry about than who's responsible. Because no one is responsible, it's a road hazard. See now what I really need is a set of PSS9's, I could have avoided it if I had that set up.......

POST 10Original post

Wow, but I'm thinking (could be wrong) that a windshield is cheaper than the front hood (repainting and repairing). Perhaps you have glass coverage?

POST 11Original post

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What camera setup and mount were you using? Camera image quite steady and clear. Sincerely, Macster.

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No I used to have glass coverage but my current policy was cheaper and they don't have it. But I've priced it at ~$380 so it was cheaper not to have it.....And yeah, if you're going to get hit, the windshield is a lot cheaper! It's the "McGuyver XL" mount with a Panasonic point and shoot attached to a gps mount. You can see it in the windshield photos. I've looked for mounts and can't find any in the stores.

POST 13Original post

thank heavens for laminated glass - are there any windshield-related upgrades you can have done during the install??? I guess your camera does not record sound in the cockpit - would be interesting to have heard the initial pilot comment when it hit. I hit a big pelican or something flying out of chuck degaule airport in 1993 - there was definite chatter in the cockpit at that moment but thankfully it hit right alng the upper windscreen fuselage/glass seam and did not break the glass!

POST 14Original post

Wow... Glad to hear you came out unscathed despite the windshield damage... When was this trip? Looks like you were in great company... from the views though, it looked more like Mt. Laguna, rather than Mt. Palomar and Laguna is a lot closer to Dudley's than Palomar is (I'm very familiar with the area, my brother lives about 10 minutes west of Dudley's)... Post your next event - I'd love to join you guys on the next one... By the way, are you going to make it to the Carlsbad meet next Saturday? If so, I hope to meet you... Afterwards I'm planning on stopping into SoCal Euro afterwards... Rudy

POST 15Original post

Wow, sorry it happened to you. It looked like a hammer to me...went by too swiftly. I thought you were trying to catch up with the guy and I was looking forward to a grand finale...but video ended abruptly with no happy ending.

POST 16Original post

smokes, that sucks, I feel the pain. been there. looked like a nice drive otherwise, great road. thanks for sharing.

POST 17Original post

sux about the windshield, but as you said, could've been worse. but man, what a great road. looks like fun.

POST 18Original post

well the insurance company sure cant say much after you show them that video - though you might want to sort of..... you know...... EDIT it a BIT shorter so they dont drop your coverage all together

POST 19Original post

I don't get this video. So he threw a bolt at your car? Or what? If so, what happened when you all stopped at the next location

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dude... the whole point of the video was to show how soft porsche windows are. I got pits all over my windshield. those F-cars were hauling ***.

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I didn't hold anyone at fault for the deal. Not saying that it did or didn't fall off of some ones car, it really doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure it came off of the road. It was a neat story at the next stop especially since I thought it was the guys cigar until it smashed the windshield. And they are really fun roads. I think we ran around 100 miles that day. Here's one with the Enzo (@3:15 in the video) and a Ruf Turbo R, as you can tell I moved over to let his pass.....(I didn't want to get to far ahead of him and havehim make a wrong turn...... )

POST 22Original post

that was a great road!! or IS I suppose....... thanks

POST 23Original post

man. We have mandatory full coverage glass in MA.. I went through two windshields in the last two years, but I've never seen a break like that!

POST 24Original post

That looks fun and all, Ed... but I don't like the idea of what that Enzo guy did, crossing double yellow just to overtake. Did you guys cross over at Mesa Grande? I bet you that Enzo wouldn't have the guts to cross the double yellow on that road since it actually has some real switch backs, not straights. Enzo or Civic, it was a dumb move.

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He didn't double yellow-ish sorta. I pulled over to the side, slowed and flagged him forward. I like running with these guys because they don't do things like that. I saw enough room that he could get by if I slowed. I hate it when people double yellow.

POST 26Original post

If there was a mic in my car and that happened all you would have heard was: BBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!

POST 27Original post

I missed the part in the video seeing someone 'throw' the bolt. It's entirely possible that the rear tire of a car in front of you picked it up and 'threw' it. Did you see the hand that let go of it??? If you did you likely saw the car or at least the color of the car. In that case you should file a police report in addition to your insurance claim - if no more than to document the event, place, time, etc. If it was local-yokal they will likely do it again or something similar someday soon. A collection of reports + police knowledge of the folks that live around there will be a great lead. Also: if you tell the insurance company that it was thrown, they may require you to file a police report. Sorry if the answers to these questions are contained in the narrative somewhere in this thread...

POST 28 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Yeah, I've had a string of bad luck lately and when it hit I just saw it and figured, "Well should have I expected any less?". I was going through the other videos and everyonce and a while you hear a big sigh. It's kinda funny hearing them while watching them. And Marlon, no one threw a bolt. It came from the road.

POST 29Original post

Ed, that blonde wig really suits you, haven't seen you looking like that before Catching the bolt sucks - but catching it on video is kinda cool. You mentioned camera mounts... Heres what you need - Delkin Fat Gecko (made locally in Poway) http://www.delkin.com/products/acces...fat-gecko.html You can mount inside the windshield, or outside the car - lots of flexibility, and an extremely solid mount for video or stills. (Loads to 7 lbs) I used it for these two test runs - with a Flip MinoHD camcorder - first video is mounted outside on the 996, 2nd is mounted inside windshield on the Land Rover http://gallery.me.com/c.dodkin#100074 http://gallery.me.com/c.dodkin#100080

POST 30Original post

Hey Ed, that's a drag, but pretty amazing slo-mo video there! Then watching the video through the cracked glass is kind of hard core, like some kind of Jesse James reality chase show, ha. Funny can really hear your car when the Helmholz kicks in and resonates in the cabin.... Who's the blonde, and what'd you do with Paris?

POST 31Original post

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Or both at once like recently happened to me in my Boxster S. I was just merging right to move over for an upcoming exit and the car in front of me launched what looked like some sort of metal tool like a ratchet or such, appox. 12 inches long. His rear tire picked it up off the highway surface. There was about 1 second from the time I saw it lift off, hit, and disappear. ( There's an entrance-exit situation right there so traffic always tends to tighten up. I was fairly close.) First strike was right in front of me, about one foot down from the windshield on the front hood. It scraped it's way up the front hood kind of heading towards the passenger side. Then it struck the bottom of the windshield, scraped it's way up, flipped, and struck the top of the windshield, breaking it. The actual strike that broke it was the same spot as in the video. I was very bummed. It was the first time the car has ever seen so much as a scratch. However, I was telling my tale to a friend who owns a auto repair shop. He told me a tale of one of his customers whom had a very similar experience with a much grimmer result. Bottom line - his customer was killed. After hearing that story I felt very lucky indeed. Had the object been 10 inches higher when I got there, first strike would have been the windshield, right in front of me. And again, it was WAY bigger than a 4" bolt. It could have easily been curtains for me. I thanked my boxster for taking the scars for me that day and promised her an early oil change! Phil ps You boys weren't exceeding any speed limits during the making of that video, right?

POST 32Original post

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That mount works awesome! Nice video from the 996 exterior. What say yee, about the illegal U turn, right in front of the sheriff, at the end of the video?? Phil

POST 33Original post

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I'd survived the other two cops on the hill, so I figured I just wanted to get to the restaurant and cool down! It was like cop central that day - I know they're out to get me....

POST 34 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Thanks for the info. And when I go in drag I'm always a brunette. It is kinda neat that the glass is cracked but I would have rather have done it in photoshop...... And the blonde is....... I'll probably take it down....copyright issues.....

POST 35 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Wow, doesn't take much to change your life does it? Scary sometimes.

POST 36Original post

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Why does it always seem to be that way?? I get in the same rut at times. If it weren't for bad luck I would have no luck. I would have called it a day after that but I guess it is better to just roll with the punches and kicks and rock throwing and....

POST 37Original post

Few years ago a car ahead of me picked up a 14" section of sign post off the road and slung it at me in my Ford Focus going 75. How do I know it was 14"? Because I measured it after pulling it out of the headrest on the passenger side.

POST 38Original post

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OMG !!! That's way too scary. You must have been in a daze for a spell after that one, and probably happy to be alive! And super thankful that you didn't have a passenger? Phil

POST 39Original post

Awesme video Ed. Nice to see those enjoying the spirit of the 911. Where in Ca is that section of road located? We just don't have runs like that in CT. BTW how fast where you guys traveling on some of the straight sections. Looks like a lot of fun. Keep safe and watch out for the road debris. Jay

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Thanks! It's down in Southern California between San Diego and LA, near Temecula and Escondido. It's only fun when you get out early. Less traffic and the guys that go on these are reasonable when driving, no one acts like an ***, but we do have fun. And as for straight sections...A girl never tells her age...... When there's no posted speed limit the highest you can go is 65.....

POST 41Original post

What a stroke of bad luck. What's most incredible about this is that clearly the targa way up in front of you flung it up from the roadway,--and was WAY out there in front of you. You weren't even tailgating. But I noticed that you tend to cross the double-yellow line on the curves,--you have a Porsche! You don't need to do that! Stay on your side! :-)

POST 42 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Yeah I know.... The double line. I was trying to catch up and only "shave" when I know if someone was coming around the corner, I'd be on the right side before they see me!!!! I know, I know ...I do honestly feel the same way.

POST 44Original post

Nice videos. Look like a whole lot of fun, you were shifting alright.

POST 45Original post

[And as for straight sections...A girl never tells her age...... When there's no posted speed limit the highest you can go is 65..... ] Great answer Ed. Keep enjoying the life my friend. I have a question. Previously I have read that some have gone touring in the canyons. Is that drive near there? And if not have you driven the canyons and how does it compare to this drive. Again thanks for the video it makes you want to go out and drive. Jay

POST 46Original post

Hey Ed, good to see you again last weekend. Sorry to see what happened to your windshield, but best of luck with the repairs. Here is my video from the drive, from the Enzo and Challenge Stradales: http://www.goldbergfilm.com/palomarjune/

POST 47 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Great video! I even made the end bit of the clips. Get some fun clips of the little guys like me too next time! Hope your weekend's fun-er than mine. See you next time.

POST 48Original post

Damn air cooled 911's - they're always kicking up road debris!

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