can anyone post recent auction data on 996s?

looks like they are droping fast...... damn, it's so hard for me to buy any other car because the value of 996

I wouldn't really say they're dropping fast...but obviously the prices are still coming down some. Specific year and model you're looking for?

I would also like to know the trend in 996 values. Have been looking at 2002-2004 coupes and cabs and no offense to current owners, but they seem pricey relative to 997's. Looking at cars.com you can now buy low mileage 997 coupes in the mid $50k range so it stands to reason that the 996's have to start coming down a little more. Or am I missing something?

Even the Manheim prices have not caught up to the market yet. Best to use EBay history. I bought my C4S '03 with CPO for $47800. It also had the Bose and Nav. I would look for one without those particular options and build from there. Both will be a headache and less than the current tech offers. Buy a 20-30K miler stiripped but with PSM. I wish I had my current advice when I was shopping!

Not sure exactly what you were looking for, but this should help give you an idea. This is 2004 Carrera Coupe recent transactions from Manheim: 02/12/08 FAAO Lease $37,000 27,813 Below SILVER 6G 6 Yes 01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $38,000 33,433 Below BLK C9Z 6G A Yes 02/07/08 MANHEIM Lease $39,000 45,510 Below BLACK 6G 6 No 01/23/08 CEN FLA Lease $39,600 29,848 Below GRAY 6G 6 Yes 02/14/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $43,500 31,692 Avg SLVR 6G 6 Yes 01/24/08 NEVADA Regular $43,750 16,611 Avg GRAY 6G 6 Yes 01/22/08 DFW Regular $44,500 40,636 Avg BLK 6G 6 Yes 01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $45,500 39,472 Avg SILVER 6G M Yes 01/16/08 W PALM Lease $46,000 39,003 Avg BLACK 6G 6 Yes 02/07/08 MANHEIM Regular $47,500 12,303 Avg BLACK 6G 6 Yes 01/24/08 MANHEIM Regular $49,000 6,414 Avg SILVER 6G 6 Yes 01/22/08 DFW Lease $50,000 34,633 Avg SILVER 6G 6 Yes 02/07/08 MANHEIM Regular $51,250 21,729 Above GREY 6G 6 Yes 01/24/08 MANHEIM Regular $53,000 22,635 Above BLACK 6G 6 Yes

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If you decide to ditch your oem nav, I'll buy it from you.

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this IS what i am looking for some raw auction data. ebay data is not as good as Manheim

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If there is something more specific you want to know about (year, model, etc.) just let me know and I will grab it for you.

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How useful is the PSM, have you kicked it in yet? If it's not too much trouble i'd like to see '99 data... thanks!

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Wow, that's great data!! What about 40th anniversary cars??

Last night, coming home on summer tires, it was near freezing and the road was damp. I was very glad it was there.

2004 PORSCHE 911 Carrera C4S MMR price: $47,000...$51,300 / 36381 Red/ Buy now $58125 VIN: WP0CA29994S651239 Lot #: OOGN20369562 2004 PORSCHE 911 Carrera 4S MMR price: $45,700...$50,600 / 50234 Black/ Buy now $52125 VIN: WP0AA29924S620535 Lot #: OOGN20379256 2004 PORSCHE 911 Carrera C4S MMR price: $46,500...$51,000 / 12315 Gray/ Buy now $64900 VIN: WP0CA29964S651456 Lot #: OOGN20425996

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'99 C2 Coupe 02/07/08 MANHEIM Regular $26,800 40,680 Above BLUE 6G 6 Yes 02/07/08 MANHEIM Regular $25,300 64,778 Above SILVER 6G 6 Yes 02/07/08 MANHEIM Regular $24,000 76,058 Avg BLACK 6G 6 Yes 01/29/08 BALTWASH Lease $19,800 75,945 Avg BLACK 6G 6 Yes 02/14/08 SO CAL Lease $19,500 59,662 Avg BLACK 6G 6 Yes 01/18/08 NEVADA Regular $19,200 69,154 Avg SILVER 6G M Yes 02/07/08 MANHEIM Regular $18,700 72,088 Avg SILVER 6G A Yes 01/17/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $18,500 83,629 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes 01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $18,250 80,110 Avg TAN 6G M Yes '99 C2 Cab 12/28/07 NEVADA Regular $23,750 47,644 Avg BLUE 6G 6 Yes 01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $21,000 44,834 Avg YELLOW 6G 6 Yes 01/03/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $21,000 64,632 Avg GREEN 6G A Yes 01/30/08 CADE Regular $19,500 68,083 Avg YELLOW 6G M Yes 02/14/08 SO CAL Lease $17,500 67,897 Below SILVER 6G 6 Yes 02/14/08 LAS VEGA Regular $15,750 92,351 Below BLACK 6G A No On the site they either don't specify if it's a 40th anniversary car or they haven't had any go through lately.

Would you be able to obtain the same data for '02-03 C4S? I've been in the market for my first P-car for about 2 months nows. I've finally narrowed it down to an '02-03 C4S. I've been spending the last couple of weeks looking around for this year/model and I've even put an offer in on one, which the dealer(not a P-car dealer) didn't like (it was an '02 C4S with 60K, and the history was a bit sketchy - so I went low). Thanks in advance for your help. Eric

No problem! '02 C4S: 01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $44,500 17,582 Avg SILVER 6G M Yes 11/08/07 RIVRSIDE Lease $44,500 32,896 Avg BLACK 6G 6 Yes 12/20/07 W PALM Lease $41,400 45,636 Avg YELLOW 6G 6 Yes 01/09/08 BAY CITI Regular $40,250 40,624 Avg SILVER 6G 6 Yes 11/29/07 MANHEIM Regular $40,000 38,709 Avg GREY 6G 6 Yes 01/24/08 MANHEIM Regular $38,600 38,694 Avg SILVER 6G Yes '03 C4S: 01/24/08 MANHEIM Regular $46,000 25,116 Avg BLUE 6G 6 Yes 01/24/08 MANHEIM Regular $43,500 33,851 Avg SILVER 6G 6 Yes 12/19/07 MINNEAP Lease $41,500 42,236 Avg SILVER 6G 6 Yes 01/31/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $39,500 39,008 Avg SIL 92M 6G Yes 02/07/08 MANHEIM Regular $38,600 18,770 Avg TEAL 6G Yes 02/13/08 CEN FLA Lease $31,000 75,933 Below BLUE 6G A No

Thanks very much. I'm thinking that the car I'm going to look at tomorrow at the dealer with 43K miles, all maintenance records, one owner, RMS was done once, except no xenon, might be a good deal at $41.9K, although I personally want to be at the $40.0K mark. Eric

It seems like you have a good source for auction data Scalarrthu. would you be able to PM me or post up some info on BMW 545i cars? 04-05 AT. Ebay looks like they are in the mid 20's right now.

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2004 BMW 545 i MMR price: $25,700...$28,600 / 92600 Silver/ Buy now $20500 VIN: WBANB33544B112252 Lot #: OOGN20818549 2005 BMW 545 MMR price: $28,400...$32,400 / 50859 Blue/ Buy now $25500 VIN: WBANB33565B115039 Lot #: OOGN20862807 2004 BMW 545 i MMR price: $25,900...$28,800 / 56073 Blue/ Buy now $30500 VIN: WBANB33524B087271 Lot #: OOGN20407063 2004 BMW 545 MMR price: $25,700...$28,600 / 10573 Black/ Buy now $34000 VIN: WBANB33554B088222 Lot #: OOGN20806496 2004 BMW 545 MMR price: $25,700...$28,600 / 43337 Green/ Buy now $26000 VIN: WBANB33554B113409 Lot #: OOGN20773656 2004 BMW 545I MMR price: $25,700...$28,600 8G/AT 44623 BLUE/BEI 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33554B108744 Lot #: OOTS20792084 2005 BMW 545IA 8G/AT 45802 TITA GRA/GRY 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33555B116585 Lot #: OOTS20837464 2005 BMW 545IA 8G/AT 66122 BLCKSAPH/BLK 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33535CN63118 Lot #: OOTS20757135 2005 BMW 545I 8G/6S 39657 TITANIUM/BLK 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33585B088829 Lot #: OOTS20757132 2005 BMW 545IA MMR price: $28,200...$32,300 8G/AT 39669 BLCKSAPH/TAN 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33505B116140 Lot #: OOTS20757120 2005 BMW 545I 8G/6S 42710 TITGRAY/BLK 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33535B089080 Lot #: OOTS20757100 2005 BMW 545IA MMR price: $28,300...$32,300 8G/AT 19077 SILVRGRY/TAN 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33535CN63538 Lot #: OOTS20757093 2005 BMW 545IA 8G/AT 56510 TITANGRY/GRY 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33525B115541 Lot #: OOTS20757078 2004 BMW 545IA 8G/AT 45542 OLIVINGN/TAN 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33504B108859 Lot #: OOTS20757062 2005 BMW 545I MMR price: $28,300...$32,400 8G/6S 39101 ORIENBLU/GRY 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33515B089076 Lot #: OOTS20757048 2005 BMW 545IA MMR price: $28,200...$32,300 8G/AT 14410 BLACK/TAN 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB335X5B116808 Lot #: OOTS20757021 2004 BMW 545 i MMR price: $25,700...$28,600 / 51339 Gray/ Buy now $25500 VIN: WBANB33524B109902 Lot #: OOGN20819703 2004 BMW 545 i MMR price: $25,700...$28,700 / 25998 Silver/ Buy now $35500 VIN: WBANB33574B114769 Lot #: OOGN20667241 2005 BMW 545i 545I / 51898 Black Sapphire/ 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33505B115893 Lot #: OOBL20780092 2005 BMW 545i 545I / 21656 Orient Blue/ 02/19/2008 VIN: WBANB33575B089485 Lot #: OOBL20780008 Total units found: 116

Good God...those 99 C2 prices he posted were a shocker! How accurate is that info? I guess I should consider myself fortunate that mine caught fire last September and insurance paid me $37K for it....otherwise I'd have been selling it privately for a whole lot less......I can't believe they've dropped that drastically......

There were no '99 C4s distinguished? Or just none. Thanks for the data.

thanks steve! were those from various places in the US? What does the MMR price mean?

MMR is the Manheim auction range. The listings are from many major auctions all across the US. The date you see represent when the vehicle will be auctioned off. The buy it now price is just that. The auction listings are not always accurate. A TT may not be in the description and often a car is listed as a C4S when is a C2. This is all from Exporttrader. You can google the vin and find where the car is in most cases.

I am pulling the information direct from the MMR (Manheim Market Report) that Steve was referring to. The prices I post are the recent transactions (sales) at the various Manheim auctions across the country. These prices are "wholesale" prices, which is what dealerships base what they will pay for cars they buy or take in on trade. These prices will usually be a mark up to the retail price by the dealer. Judd, will send you a PM, as it's a long list.

What does the Yes, or No mean at the end of the description???

Just guessing here but there are post auctions inspections that are allowed in some cases (at an additional cost). Cars sometimes fail the post auction inspection and the deal does not go through - thus the "no". Auctions are a whole world by themselves and you can't expect to buy a car at the prices shown but it may provide a reference on what the market is doing. I just bought my C4S 2K below the KBB PP price, from a Porsche dealer with CPO. Timing is everything!

Any recent info on 2002-2004 C2 cabs?? Thanks in advance!

Well, while you are at it I would like to see 2001 c2 coupe values. I had a pretty low offer from a dealer. Thanks

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2nd on this!!!

Yes, second on the 2001 C2's, please...how does $30k with 38.5k miles on it sound? Black w/tan 6 spd, 18''s

2003 PORSCHE 911 CAB MMR price: $39,100...$43,600 6G/AT 56656 SILVER/BLK 02/21/2008 VIN: WP0CA29993S652261 Lot #: OOTS20851082 Auction closed 2003 PORSCHE 911 CAB MMR price: $38,400...$42,800 6G/6S 46032 METALLIC/BLK 02/21/2008 VIN: WP0CA29943S651793 Lot #: OOTS20938151 Auction starts in: 2 hr 5 min 2002 PORSCHE 911 C-4 CAB MMR price: $32,400...$35,400 6G/AT 51520 BLUE/GRY 02/21/2008 VIN: WP0CA29952S653437 Lot #: OOTS20938149 Auction starts in: 2 hr 5 min 2004 PORSCHE 911 CAB MMR price: $46,600...$51,100 6G/AT 57758 BLACK/BLK 02/21/2008 VIN: WP0CA29964S651182 Lot #: OOTS20851034 Auction closed 2003 PORSCHE 911 C-2 CAB MMR price: $38,600...$43,000 6G/AT 75139 BLUE/GRY 02/21/2008 VIN: WP0CA29993S651000 Lot #: OOTS20851037 Auction closed 2004 PORSCHE 911 CAB MMR price: $46,400...$51,000 6G/AT 54413 GREY/YGK 02/21/2008 VIN: WP0CA29944S653089 Lot #: OOTS20902902 Auction closed 2004 PORSCHE 911 CAB MMR price: $46,600...$51,100 6G/ 24854 Grey/ 02/21/2008 VIN: WP0CA29964S651960 Lot #: OOTS20976076 Auction closed 2003 PORSCHE 911 C-4 CAB 6G/6S 20497 SILVER/ 02/21/2008 VIN: WP0CA29993S653426 Lot #: OOTS20977311 Auction starts in: 2 hr 35 min 2001 PORSCHE 911 CAB MMR price: $28,400...$31,800 6G/AT 45682 SILVER/GRY 02/21/2008 VIN: WP0CA29961S650397 Lot #: OOTS20976925 Auction closed 2003 PORSCHE 911 CAB MMR price: $38,400...$42,800 6G/5S 24068 BLUE/ 02/21/2008 VIN: WP0CA29983S652915 Lot #: OOTS20938387 Auction closed 2003 PORSCHE 911 CAB MMR price: $39,000...$43,300 6G/6S 72253 BLUE/GRA 02/22/2008 VIN: WP0CA29973S652193 Lot #: OOTS20944227 Auction starts in: 15 hr 35 min 2003 PORSCHE 911 C-4 CAB MMR price: $39,100...$43,600 6G/6S 49443 YELLOW/BRN 02/28/2008 VIN: WP0CA29993S650736 Lot #: OOTS20991399 2004 PORSCHE 911 CAB 6G/AT 24435 SLVR/GRY 02/28/2008 VIN: WP0CA29924S652930 Lot #: OOTS20991424 2003 PORSCHE 911 CAB 6G/6S 20715 BLACK/BLK 02/28/2008 VIN: WP0CA29933S652093 Lot #: OOTS20991411 2002 PORSCHE 911 CAB 6G/AT 88599 GRAY/GRY 02/28/2008 VIN: WP0CA29982S653514 Lot #: OOTS20991394 2004 PORSCHE 911 CAB 6G/AT 33662 BLACK/GRY 02/28/2008 VIN: WP0CA29934S652337 Lot #: OOTS20991419 2004 PORSCHE 911 CAB 6G/6S 39500 SILVER/GRY 02/28/2008 VIN: WP0CA29984S651491 Lot #: OOTS20991415 2003 PORSCHE 911 CAB 6G/AT 60487 SILVER/GRE 02/28/2008 VIN: WP0CA29953S652841 Lot #: OOTS20991408 2003 PORSCHE 911 CAB 6G/6S 41412 SILVER/BLK 02/28/2008 VIN: WP0CA29973S653733 Lot #: OOTS20991403 2002 PORSCHE 911 CAB 6G/6S 38811 GREY/BLK 02/28/2008 VIN: WP0CA29992S651075 Lot #: OOTS20991402

Steve, great info. An congrats on your newer car.

Yes, thank you.

'01 C2 coupe prices anyone?

And '02 C2 coupe as well. Thanks!

any 01 to 03 Turbo data?