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Because they put the cup holder directly in front of the air vents, my coffee stays warm in the winter with heater on, and my beverage stays cold in the summer when I run the AC.
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You can retrofit the '01 as they have kits or you can buy used on eBay.
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Not sure about the cup holder issue, but that's the same setup I used on my 03 and it turned out great.
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Thanks to the great posts here I used the phone cable for switched power and it worked well.
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Just as a follow up, apparently you can't switch out the cupholders unless you also change the vents and horseshoe.
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Because they put the cup holder directly in front of the air vents, my coffee stays warm in the winter with heater on, and my beverage stays cold in the summer when I run the AC.
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Also, I don't know what unit you went with, but if it's a Pioneer, don't forget to do the emergency brake hack or your passenger won't be able to use the nav while the car's moving.
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I'm finally jumping into the 21st century by adding navigation to my 2001 C4. There are several good threads regarding mounting double DIN headunits, but I still had a couple of quick clarifying questions. Mainly my question has to do with fitment of cup holders.
I've found a bezel made by Metra aka Connects2go which is specific to the 996 without cupholders. Easy enough, I'd have to remove my existing headunit and my cupholders and away I go. I don't use them often but it would be nice to have cupholders.
Several people have recommended this bezel/mounting kit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/03-05-PORSCH...item336dae5bda
Which seems to fit with the newer cupholders (rotate out instead of slide out like mine). Does anyone know if the newer cupholders can be retrofitted into 2001 models?
The ebay kit linked above seems to be an assembly of several other peoples parts (primarily Metra). Does anyone if the bezel they use is the same as the Metra unit?
Thanks,
Shawn
Not sure about the cup holder issue, but that's the same setup I used on my 03 and it turned out great. Lon at Euro Motorspeed is very helpful as well. Email him with your question. I am sure he knows the answer. Good luck!
That does look good...damn it, I might have to swallow my annoyance and pay the $160 for the kit.
Just as a follow up, apparently you can't switch out the cupholders unless you also change the vents and horseshoe. I'll probably just live without cupholders like generations of P-car owners before me.
I'd love to know if the bezel in that kit is from Metra like the wire harness.
"Just as a follow up, apparently you can't switch out the cupholders unless you also change the vents and horseshoe"
I think that you are correct. The vent is narrower or up higher on the 2002 and up cars which allows for the swing out style.
I would like to do what you are doing also but went with the floor aftermarket cup holders for now. Keep in mind all that liquid right above your nice double din radio
I tried putting the pop out cup holder in the area where the CD STORAGE unit is but it did not even come close to fitting.
Now I am thinking about pulling the CD holder and coming up with something to hold my IPhone internally but easy to take out.
Why would you want to put a cup of hot liquid, or filled with carbonated drink right above your new $600.00 beautiful stereo? Porsche engineers never figured out a good place to put cupholders. Amazing! Every place they tried was bad. over the stereo, in front of vents...etc.
But the Ultimate cupholder is fantastic and solved all the problems for cupholders for me. And they look great too. Anyone who poo poo's a cupholder in a Porsche needs to get real. Everyone who uses their car in the real world drinks in the car and needs a secure place to hold it. Were not racing all the time. (I have no interest in the company just a happy owner)
http://www.ultimatecupholders.com/
Those German Engineers knew what they were doing. Because they put the cup holder directly in front of the air vents, my coffee stays warm in the winter with heater on, and my beverage stays cold in the summer when I run the AC.
So the original question about Metra bezel is still not answered is it? Just curious as I see Porsche written on top of the Bezel and on eBay below the Bezel and not sure what Bezel is what
I had the same question when mine arrived. Wasn't the same as the pic on eBay from Euro Motorspeed. I must say, I like the PORSCHE logo on top better IMHO.
I ended up ordering the kit from Eurospeed. I asked him directly whether or not the bezel was from Metra and he didn't answer directly. He stated that every part of the kit was custom designed to optimize fit and look. That may mean he buys Metra bezels and has "Porsche" printed on it, or it may mean he custom molded/machined his own solution. When it arrives I'll check it thoroughly for any indication one way or the other. The only Metra bezels I could find for sale were from UK Ebayers and I really didn't feel like dealing with an international return if I didn't like the look.
I have this kit in my 2001 cab... it is not a Metra bezel, it is a very nice high quality plastic cut to fit with the Porsche logo added on. I believe they trim it for each type of radio you have since the fitment is very tight. Metra kits use a thin plastic bezel design were as this one is one thick piece of plastic cut to fit.
Sorry for the crappy pic but here is an in progress shot of my Euro Motorspeed kit and Pioneer budget double din (avic p1400dvd). Thanks to the great posts here I used the phone cable for switched power and it worked well. I am waiting for my amp to come in to finish up the install.
I also went with a budget amp (Alpine MRX-F65 160W x 4). Their site says this is supposed to be the affordable version of the PDX line. I don't need perfection, just aux input with sound quality at least as good as stock. We'll see soon enough!
This will be my first ever vehicle with aux input! I am so excited
Finally joining the year 2000!
I want to put the cubby in there but I think I need to do some dremeling to make it fit? Since I have the bose system I have had to focus on cable routing, etc for now.
Here's mine.
Just a word of caution: DO NOT use Euromotorspeed's wiring instructions. They're not even close to right (at least they weren't for my '99). When I pulled my factory radio out, it had a wiring diagram right on the top of it, making wiring the plug a snap..
Also, I don't know what unit you went with, but if it's a Pioneer, don't forget to do the emergency brake hack or your passenger won't be able to use the nav while the car's moving.
I bought the correct cubby for that spot because my car had the cd holder. The Eurospeed kit came with the bezel to relocate the heater controls (without a doubt the most fun part of the job
). I taped the plugs to a piece of wire one by one to fish them down where they needed to go. Have band-aids standing by, especially if you have a light colored interior.
The cubby you took out is not a plug and play piece for the lower installation. Porsche sells one that fits there. On the correct one, I had to do just a small bit of trimming of plastic to make it fit.
Just as a follow up, I did receive the kit last week (very fast shipping). The parts look to be very nice quality. The bezel is not from Metra. It looks to be a custom cut piece. I pretty much have everything mounted and ready to go other than the microphone. Hopefully I'll get that run tonight and finish things off.
Shawn
Cup holders started appearing on '01 models in which it took a whole DIN space. They were redesigned to be slimmer and take up less space and becoming a standard item starting in '02+ cars. I'm assuming you have either '99 or '00 model. You can retrofit the '01 as they have kits or you can buy used on eBay.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...0(1999-07%2F01
They may well have been stock. Mine had several option packages (black full leather, advanced technic pkg, heated front seats pkg, & power seat pkg), but I don't believe any of those specifically call out the cupholders.
Personally I think they're a poor design. Particularly if you plan on putting a double-DIN head unit right underneath. Think about it for a sec...you've got a several hundred dollar head unit sitting right underneath a couple flimsy drink holders. Murphy tells us that it's probably not going to end well.