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Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?

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YOUR RESEARCHDo you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?

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Albeit I drive a Boxster, not a 996, I swapped my stock 986 console for a 997 console and it was a dramatic difference.

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?
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Meant to say mark the cables if replacing the linkages

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Probably a good idea to use the alignment tool whenever replacing the shifter or cables, and for a $10 part, it's really a no brainer.

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?

Replace linkages

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Meant to say mark the cables if replacing the linkages

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?

Replace plastic linkages also

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Also plan to replace the plastic linkages also.

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?

Replace shifter or cables

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Probably a good idea to use the alignment tool whenever replacing the shifter or cables, and for a $10 part, it's really a no brainer.

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?
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Meant to say mark the cables if replacing the linkages

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?

Replace plastic linkages also

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Also plan to replace the plastic linkages also.

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?

Replace shifter or cables

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Probably a good idea to use the alignment tool whenever replacing the shifter or cables, and for a $10 part, it's really a no brainer.

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?

Replace stock 986 console

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Albeit I drive a Boxster, not a 996, I swapped my stock 986 console for a 997 console and it was a dramatic difference.

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?

Use alignment tool

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Just use the alignment tool to lock the 997 shifter first then connect the two cables to it once the shifter is bolted down and you're good to go.

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?

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Yes, you should use the alignment tool.

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?

Use alignment tool whenever

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Probably a good idea to use the alignment tool whenever replacing the shifter or cables, and for a $10 part, it's really a no brainer.

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?
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Probably a good idea to use the alignment tool whenever replacing the shifter or cables, and for a $10 part, it's really a no brainer.

Do you need an alignment tool for the 997 shifter swap?
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When I bought my C4S a few years back it had a B&M shifter in it, and it worked pretty well in warm weather and once the gearbox warmed up, but in a cool climate I felt it was too notchy and too high an effort when cold.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'm interested in doing the 997 shifter swap, but am wondering how complicated the install is. I looked at the B&M short shifter instructions and it looks like a LOT of steps. Can someone tell me how long does it takes to do the 997 swap and do I need an alignment tool to do it?

POST 2Original post

This is a serious question, what do you hope to gain by swapping the shifter? Why go through the trouble?

POST 3Original post

Yes, you should use the alignment tool. Its $12 on ebay. Install isn't bad. remove the console, pull the cables out of the shifter, 4 nuts and its out. install the shifter, connect the cables, and put the console back on. The 997 shifter has about 20% reduction in throws over the 997 unit and some argue slightly smoother engagement.

POST 4Original post

The 997 shifter is a noticeable upgrade. I also bought the alignment tool to help set it up properly and added new linkage to one of these

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for the feedback guys. This helps a lot.

POST 6Original post

Probably a good idea to use the alignment tool whenever replacing the shifter or cables, and for a $10 part, it's really a no brainer. The number of steps may look daunting at first, but it all goes pretty fast. I recall it took me under two hours working very slowly. I think the 997 standard shifter is a good upgrade. When I bought my C4S a few years back it had a B&M shifter in it, and it worked pretty well in warm weather and once the gearbox warmed up, but in a cool climate I felt it was too notchy and too high an effort when cold. I replaced it with the standard 997 shifter and couldn't be happier. While the throw is slightly longer than the short shifters, it is so much smoother in all temperature ranges.

POST 7Original post

I'm thinking the shifter is more of a placebo if anything, but that's just me

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Based on what? Oh, I see. It's based on your 'thinking'. Great data to support your claim. Having owned both 996 and a 997 with stock shifters I can tell you it's not. The 997 shifter is smoother, less notchy feeling and has shorter throws. It's a vast improvement over the stock 996 whiter mechanism.

POST 9Original post

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Spinout is correct. Albeit I drive a Boxster, not a 996, I swapped my stock 986 console for a 997 console and it was a dramatic difference. Then, I changed out to a Numeric console and cables. Another dramatic change. Considering how often you are shifting, upgrading the console, whether it is to a 997, a 997 GT3 or a Numeric it is a worthwhile investment.

POST 10Original post

Notchy feeling is usually a result of how the shifter acts on the forks that are actually moving the shift hubs. The 997 shifter appears to have a better lever axis than the 996 shifter but is very similar to the B&M/Porsche Sport shifter. The advantage of the B&M that I see is the aluminum support of the lever pivot point. The cable end such as the agency power unit or numeric cables would help with feel by simply making the lever action at the lever is accurately transferred to the shift lever.

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I haven't done this mod, so can't speak from experience, but there are a ton of threads on RL about it and I haven't seen anybody that's done the 997 upgrade and not seen a very significant improvement in shifting smoothness (and there is no debate that the shifts are about 15% shorter). I had no question about the effectiveness of the swap, was just wondering how difficult it was to do. Most of the threads say the 997 feels better than the B&M as well (though I think the B&M has shorter throws than the 997 shifter).

POST 12Original post

I know that many of us are weight conscious but a heavier **** will help smoothen the "feel" of the shifter. It's a very common addition with a lot of other performance cars.

POST 13Original post

Shorter throws have me interested because that 1/4" could make the difference between first and last....and you know what they say, if you're not first, you're last

POST 14Original post

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I'm not sure what your point is. But I doubt that any of these shifters make you faster. It's just for better feel, maybe getting your hand back to the steering wheel faster. Nothing wrong with that. But the limitation on shift speeds in my car isn't throw, it's engaging the synchros.

POST 15Original post

I just purchased a 997 standard shifter because my 996 shifter has a fair bit of play in it. Also plan to replace the plastic linkages also. Made sense to upgrade to a newer shifter. There was also the option of the 997 SSK but I didnt like the fact that it states may be hard to engage 1st when cold so the standard 997 seemed like the most logical upgrade. Good luck with it!

POST 16Original post

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Actually no marking cable is necessary. Just use the alignment tool to lock the 997 shifter first then connect the two cables to it once the shifter is bolted down and you're good to go. The whole point of the alignment tool is to make sure the alignment of the NEW shifter is correct. The alignmnent of the old shifter is irrelevant.

POST 17Original post

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Yes sorry my post is quite convoluted now that I read it back! Meant to say mark the cables if replacing the linkages

POST 18Original post

If I recall correctly the alignment tool doesn't work with the B&M shifter. Can anyone confirm?

POST 19Original post

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Correct, as shown in these photos https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-ma...996-997-a.html

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