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I had to remove the front bumper (about 1/2 hour job), then I disconnected the factory horn (you have to cut the wire next to the clip) and attached the new horn with a large bolt to the same bracket.
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I replaced my factory horn with the Griots horn after a large truck almost backed into me.
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I don't believe I've used my horn more than a dozen times.
Replace there is always the "is this a common problem
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Why is it that ANYTIME somebody posts about a part failing or needing replaced there is ALWAYS the "is this a common problem with our cars" post?????
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The stock horns are mounted by the passenger side radiator and I had to run longer wires to reach from the existing high-tone horn to the air horn in the new location.
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I had to remove the front bumper (about 1/2 hour job), then I disconnected the factory horn (you have to cut the wire next to the clip) and attached the new horn with a large bolt to the same bracket.
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The stock horns are mounted by the passenger side radiator and I had to run longer wires to reach from the existing high-tone horn to the air horn in the new location.
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One of my horns (the low tone) burned out and so I've been driving with only the wimpy high tone for a couple of months. I thought about getting the louder Hella Supertones (113db), that is, until I saw the Super Loud Italian Air Horns from Griot's Garage.
Anyway, the horn sounds nice and reminds me of the old Ferrari air horns. Nice dual tone and VERY loud -- 139db! I don't have the third radiator so there was plenty of room to mount the horn. I highly recommend them. Now I just have to be careful in D.C. where they have noise ordinances.
Super Loud Italian Air Horns
Sheesh....I tell you, some people just worry about too much.
Why is it that ANYTIME somebody posts about a part failing or needing replaced there is ALWAYS the "is this a common problem with our cars" post?????
PROG....any chance to post a sound clip
Sounds (no pun intended) like a great mod.
It's not just our cars' horns. All horns fail. That's why they sell replacements.
I found some interesting figures on the net (
http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/loudness.html)
. The Italian Air Horns are louder than a pneumatic riveter and almost as loud as a jet taking off at 100'!!
Environmental Noise
Weakest sound heard 0dB
Normal conversation (3-5') 60-70dB
Telephone dial tone 80dB
City Traffic (inside car) 85dB
Train whistle at 500' 90dB
Subway train at 200' 95dB
Level at which sustained exposure may result in hearing loss 90 - 95dB
Power mower 107dB
Power saw 110dB
Pain begins 125dB
Pneumatic riveter at 4' 125dB
Italian Air Horns at 4' 139dB
Jet engine at 100' 140dB
Death of hearing tissue 180dB
Loudest sound possible 194dB
You gotta love the Italians! Viva Italia!!
after the near misses on the freeway (being cut off by soccer moms, morons on cell phones, and just plain idiots in SUVs) this would be perfect! actually, if it was as loud as and sounded like a semi truck then THAT would be perfect
. does anyone sell those?
One of the local shops here had a train horn!! I swear! I was chatting with the owner who was asking me about recent mods. I told him about the air horn from Griot's and he showed me the train horn. It was awesome but alas it won't fit in the Porsche -- the air compressor alone is bigger than a 2 liter bottle of Coke. That's bigger than a Honda Civic's engine!
Just for the record, I didn't start this thread to bitch about one of my horns burning out. Horns burn out -- my Benz's horn burnt out and my Jeep Grand Cherokee's horn burnt out. It happens. I just wanted to share the info on the louder, better sounding (IMHO) Italian air horns.
Cheers,
Hi Palting,
I put the air horn on as a replacement for a burnt out "low-tone" horn (our cars are dual-tone -- we have a high-tone and low-tone horn). As such I didn't have to use the relay included with the air horn since I just hooked it up in series with the (good) high-tone horn.
It would make the job a lot easier if you have access to a lift. I placed the horn behind the front bumper. Luckily I didn't have to remove the front bumper cover -- I just put the car on the lift and peeled back the skid plate/aerodynamic shield right under the front bumper. There was plenty of space behind the the bumper reinforcement bar since I didn't have a third radiator. The stock horns are mounted by the passenger side radiator and I had to run longer wires to reach from the existing high-tone horn to the air horn in the new location. The job took about an hour and a half (taking it easy and not rushing). A shop should be able to do it in about an hour.
Happy modding!
Thanks. programmatore. I was thinking of disabling the OEM horns. Looking at the wiring schematics, the high and low horns seem to be in parallel circuit. Maybe simpler to do what you did and just hook the new horn in series to either one.
I replaced my factory horn with the Griots horn after a large truck almost backed into me. I had to remove the front bumper (about 1/2 hour job), then I disconnected the factory horn (you have to cut the wire next to the clip) and attached the new horn with a large bolt to the same bracket. All you need for the electrical connection is another pair of wire prong connectors. Then re-install the bumper and you're set. I hardly ever use my horn, but when I do, it makes a world of difference, and is well worth $40 or so bucks.
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