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2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

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YOUR RESEARCH2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

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My car had the exact same symptoms and it turned out to be the battery.

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?
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Adjust 0.022v/�c

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All voltages are at 20 �C, and must be adjusted -0.022V/�C for temperature changes (negative temperature coefficient - lower voltage at higher temperature).

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?
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Adjust 0.022v/�c

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All voltages are at 20 �C, and must be adjusted -0.022V/�C for temperature changes (negative temperature coefficient - lower voltage at higher temperature).

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

Check free at your local autozone, napa, advanced, etc

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Get it checked for free at your local autozone, napa, advanced, etc.

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

Replace battery last month

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Replaced the battery last month.

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

Replace until 2012

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I am officially making the declaration that the battery will not be replaced until 2012, and that my car has heard this challenge, and has thus far signaled that it will respond accordingly, and in return, I will commit myself to driving this wonderful 996 more often, preferably on nice windy roads with the top down, and we have reached a mutually satisfying understanding that this arrangement will be just fine!

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?
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Adjust 0.022v/�c

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All voltages are at 20 �C, and must be adjusted -0.022V/�C for temperature changes (negative temperature coefficient - lower voltage at higher temperature).

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

Check battery

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But a volt meter and check the battery.

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

Check free at your local autozone, napa, advanced, etc

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Get it checked for free at your local autozone, napa, advanced, etc.

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

Replace (negative temperature coefficient - lower voltage at higher temperature)

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All voltages are at 20 �C, and must be adjusted -0.022V/�C for temperature changes (negative temperature coefficient - lower voltage at higher temperature).

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

Replace battery last month

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Replaced the battery last month.

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

Replace oil, ims, or maf failures

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So this post is not about detailing, how often to change the oil, IMS, or MAF failures, but just to get out, find an empty road, and drive!

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

Replace until 2012

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I am officially making the declaration that the battery will not be replaced until 2012, and that my car has heard this challenge, and has thus far signaled that it will respond accordingly, and in return, I will commit myself to driving this wonderful 996 more often, preferably on nice windy roads with the top down, and we have reached a mutually satisfying understanding that this arrangement will be just fine!

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

Use too frequently

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Can a battery tender be used too frequently?

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?
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battery

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My car had the exact same symptoms and it turned out to be the battery.

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?

charging system

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If not, suspect charging system.

2003 C4 starter cranking slow... @$!#! What to DO!?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Starting this week, the cranking was getting slower and slower. Is it the battery? The starter? The alternator? An electrical gremlin? Or was it that I was slammed this month, travelled the prior month, and my 911 was only getting out for 3 mile errands? This morning, 80's and sunny, should I wash the car, or should I drive it? To heck with washing it, I drove it on empty roads North of Tucson, then drove it across town and had lunch at an outdoor setting, and voila, starter cranks up instantly! A picture from two months ago, driving my convertible into the very empty roads of Northern Arizona on a busy Saturday afternoon! So this post is not about detailing, how often to change the oil, IMS, or MAF failures, but just to get out, find an empty road, and drive! John

POST 2Original post

Sounds like your battery is the problem. Get it checked for free at your local autozone, napa, advanced, etc.

POST 3Original post

My car had the exact same symptoms and it turned out to be the battery. Eventually it couldn’t hold a charge. I wonder if it has something to do with the extreme heat we had at the end of this summer (i live in Phoenix) and the lack of driving regularly. Now that it’s getting nicer outside I'm driving more. New battery really makes a difference in cranking! Got a Bosch rom Pep Boys, it’s a big battery and takes up the entire tray.

POST 4Original post

jsmirand, on what road was that picture taken? Looks like the White Mountains area

POST 5Original post

But a volt meter and check the battery. It's good to have one of those around anyway.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Good eye, it was taken heading North from Globe just south of Show Low so headed in that direction. I am going to look into a new battery but for the moment, today's drive seems to have helped, on the last start, it cranked right up. Maybe it was simply attributed to not enough driving as well as intense summer heat. My post was mostly expressing enthusiasm for enjoying my car with the top down, which is that much more enjoyable in the 80's F then when its 100's F. Finally the summer heat is letting up!

POST 7Original post

WalMart (or Autozone/O'Reilly/Pep Boys) sell an integrated digital volt meter that plugs into the 12V accessory outlet for about $14. It should read ~13V with the engine and accessories off. When you engage the starter the voltage shouldn't drop by more than 1 or 2V. With the engine running and lots of accessories active the voltage should stay well above 12V. If not, suspect charging system.

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Quotes source post: 8876708

There is a voltmeter on the left side of the dashboard instument cluster,look at it once in a while it will speak volumes.

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Open circuit voltage is also affected by temperature, and the specific gravity of the electrolyte at full charge. The following is common for a six-cell automotive lead-acid battery at room temperature: Open-circuit voltage at full charge: 12.6 V Fully discharged: 11.8 V Charge with 13.2–14.4 V Gassing voltage: 14.4 V Continuous-preservation charge with max. 13.2 V (battery tenders) After full charge the terminal voltage will drop quickly to 13.2 V and then slowly to 12.6 V Open circuit voltage is measured 12 hours after charging to allow surface charge to dissipate and enable a more accurate reading. All voltages are at 20 �C, and must be adjusted -0.022V/�C for temperature changes (negative temperature coefficient - lower voltage at higher temperature).

POST 11Original post

starter Replaced mine last week. 2003 CS4 Replaced the battery last month. Battery helped but wasn't the cure.

POST 12Original post

Similar issues with mine. Question fpb111: If I drive the car once a week, maybe two should I be battery tending between drives? Can a battery tender be used too frequently?

POST 13Original post

I have just got a battery tender for my Porker which is a weekend car. While before it took about 0.5 second to start up, it's now instantaneous.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I am happy to report that after driving it throughout Saturday, it starts right up since. The fix in this case, was to drive it!

POST 15Original post

So the battery needed to be brought up to snuff.

POST 16Original post

it was just sad....needed a little attention....you should be good now...

POST 17Original post

Battery is on it's way out will give more trouble soon.

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I am officially making the declaration that the battery will not be replaced until 2012, and that my car has heard this challenge, and has thus far signaled that it will respond accordingly, and in return, I will commit myself to driving this wonderful 996 more often, preferably on nice windy roads with the top down, and we have reached a mutually satisfying understanding that this arrangement will be just fine! All involved parties will be satisfied. Besides, as far as 911s, their batteries and owners are concerned, winters in Tucson are excellent, the problem for our batteries is the summer when the garage sits at a miserable 120F+.

POST 19Original post

Now's a good time to scout out the local sources/prices. Just in case! as 2012 is just around the corner.

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