Advice on how/where to sell, price point.

So in an old post I talked about moving to Cleveland for work, well, Cleveland's beaten me. I live right smack in the middle of the city so anywhere I drive is 10 miles of asphalt hell, and the place my wife and I got (rush job on finding an apartment, like it but made compromises) has no garage so the brutal winters will be that much more brutal on the car. Just doesn't make sense to keep paying premium cash for a premium sportscar in a junk environment. Long story short, I'm selling the car. It's a 2000 C2 6spd with 72000 miles. Mechanically it's fine (but getting everything 100% at the shop for the sale) the interior is good and the body has the typical rock chips/dings for a 10 year old car. Still beautiful though since it's Speed Yellow--the best color. I'm just looking for advice on where to post the car to attract serious buyers, what asking price I should start at and what price I should expect to get for it, keeping in mind I want to sell it in 2-4 months. Things like that. Any tips appreciated, will also tolerate berating for selling my dream car. P.S. - What makes it even worse is that I went to a PCA autoX and did surprisingly well. I've only autoX'd a couple of times 5+ years ago in a dodge neon, so ending up 6 tenths off the FTD my first time in the 911 felt pretty incredible. I should've known better than to give myself the racing bug right before the sale. P.P.S. - Don't worry guys, give it a few years for us to move to a better location with a nicely set up garage and I'm going to pick up a 996 specifically for the track.

What can you possibly replace with $20k that will put the same smile on your face every time you get in it? Buy a set of winter tires and be done with it. Enjoy the car.

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an 86' 911

Anything with a suspension softer than this. I bought this car to use as a daily driver which made sense down in Alabama, but up here about 90% of the driving I do is commuting on broken, chewed up concrete. There are zero smiles on my face going to and from work. Edit: I also feel like a terrible owner driving the car on these roads. It really feels like the car is ripping itself apart on some of these roads, and I'm tracking down and quieting a new rattle at least once a week. It's like if I had a big, energetic dog and I moved from a place with a huge yard and a pool to a 10th floor apartment in a city. Edit the second: Really, just forget about smiles completely, it's more often "Okay there was a crack in the concrete here yesterday I need to not hit i... F%#@!!!!" That's me for 20 minutes each way.

Get a car cover, put some 17" inch wheels on it for the winters and drive the damn thing Life is short! or... sell it and get a fast Audi!

sorry to hear that you "want" to sell, since you see spending the winter in Cleveland as a priority...lol.. what do you mean by "100% at the shop"? straight up, I think you can definitely sell in the member and non-member classifieds; be prepared for alot of questioning on maintenance / history.. if you want to negotiate, then also prepare for counter-offers in the $18-20K range. Nevertheless, the Pcar bug is permanent, so when the time comes, you'll get a newer / nicer model.. don't be a stranger....GLWtS ask anywhere from $22K or little more or less depending on PSM, Litronics, Leather interior, suspension/ engine upgrades, etc

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Honeymoon ain't over yet huh?

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only just begun... we have bonded a lot in the last couple weeks

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Basically I'll take it in and have something like a PPI done. Have the shop inspect the car, see if there are any issues and if they're a real concern I'll take care of them. Not going to go in and replace every hose and wire or something like that, but things like a dry/cracked coolant hose or a worn driveshaft I'll go after. Namely there's an idle issue I think is a sign of the AOS going bad--going to need a diagnostic on that before the sale. Hah, guess I should have said "100% for a 72000mile 10 year old car"

Cleveland rocks? NOT!! The mistake by the lake!

Ed, you aren't sleeping in the garage are you?

I'd suggest Rennlist, Autotrader and certainly some local papers... I think Excellence magazine is also putting together a for sale forum on the internet. Good luck Dave.

the pristine '99 coupe (40K + miles) just reduce to 22,950 in the other thread...so you can be somewhat in the ballpark...

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Uhmmm...... I can tell you that it is NOT a Honda!

God, who would even suggest a Honda? I mean just because I'm selling my car doesn't mean I'll be shredding up my dignity as... Oh... Edit - Actually I kind of have a car in mind for a commuter/beater. You folks will laugh, but for some reason I'm completely enamoured with the idea of a Mercedes-Benz 190D. I don't know what it is, just something about a late 80s German Sedan with a diesel just sounds like fun--perfectly reliable with just the right amount of quirky charm.

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Bawhahahahahaha!!!!! I love it!!!!

Although it was just a 944 Cabrio, I kept mine throughout the three years I lived in New York City. I used to use it maybe 2-4 times per month. But when I did it was awesome!

Dave! Try listing in your local Craigslist as well - it's free, easy and you might easily find a strong local buyer during these upcoming summer months. GLWTS!

If you are a PCA member, I would suggest Panorama magazine to list it. Also list it in the local PCA newsletter if your club does have one. I think you are picking the right season to sell a speed yellow Pcar. Right before summer. Unfortunately, the stock market took a kick to the teeth today from our friends in Greece so that may hurt your chances of a quick sale to somebody who Was (until this week when the market tumbled) looking for a toy. GLWTS

C'mon, Dave. I think you're exaggerating. I just got back from 2 weeks in Ohio, and I drove in Cleveland for over a week. I drove to the West Side Market 3 times, and there's this one road that was, well, there was another road that, I mean, the pot-holes aren't so bad that you can't... Sell it. Buy another when you move to Lakewood.

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if you put it Pano make sure you ask 25% more than it's worth like everyone else seems too

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NOOOOO!!!! I'd rather drive a 911 into oblivion than put that money into a MB - my family had one of those 190s and it was a POS. Put some smaller wheels on and enjoy your car - don't trade one source of unhappiness for another!

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LOL! exactly!

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See everybody? I'm not a whiner the roads here really do suck that bad! Damn, care to elaborate? I've only heard excellent things about the 190--the diesel at least, haven't heard all that much about the 190E.

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I stand corrected - I think ours was a 190E, but the number of problems we had weren't limited to the powerplant. Electrical, manual, you name it, something was always breaking or malfunctioning. It gets expensive fast to repair those Benzes too.

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+1.... put 17" on. Drive it till it blows.... she can take it!

Another option to consider is consigning the car through a local dealership that specializes in foreign and sports cars. This is how I sold my 968 last fall. The traffic through dealers is much greater than your driveway. The dealership suggested pricing and did their own ad on autotrader - with much better photos than I would have done. I signed a 60 day contract and the car sold in less than a month. The dealer's charge for the service, ~$1,000, was easily offset by the higher price that he was able to ask. In the end I got within $100 of my target price. His detailer also fixed stuff I never would have. Final advantage - the dealer dealt with all the idiots who wanted to see and drive the car (a good dealer knows how to evaluate a buyer and say no if necessary). They also did all the paperwork and dealt with DMV. A dealer can also help a prospective buyer find financing for a 10 year old car - not that easy these days. I just dropped off the car, approved the final negotiated deal, and cashed the check. Some caveats - I had known the owner for a while and had total trust in the process. A buddy tried the same thing at the same dealership with his Boxster. But the dealer had three others on the lot and the car did not sell. You have to ask the right questions and keep your eyes wide open. Good luck!

How bout I store the car for you here in Indy. You pay me for rent and I'll drive the car occasionally and send you love letters sealed with Speed Yellow lip stick?

Autotrader, Carmax. GLWS. FM

keep the car. i drive in SE michigan, and the roads are similar to cleveland. 17" wheels will help. i drive with 18" wheels and just grit my teeth for the worst roads. when i feel really bad, i just drive in the boonies and let 'er rip.

+1, keep the car and put some 17 inch wheels on it. rent a garage in a building nearby You are better with the devil you know! Then a crappy MB, which will cost you more to keep on the road than your 996. When the economy is bad, its time to trade up not down... A real Porsche owner would not be whinning about bad roads, just bad drivers.... good luck

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Oh dat for sure, dat for sure!

I just crawled through the "Sell you own car" swamp and for what it's worth, here's my .02. I pulled out all the stops and carpet bombeb the market with advertising. All of the potential approaches have been mentioned already, but I experienced different levels of response as follows (your results may vary): 1. Autotrader - bought an upgraded ad, posted for 2 months and didn't receive a single serious offer. This was surprising to me. 2. The local paper - money down the toilet. Not a single response. 3. Parking lot - My work lot adjacent to a busy intersection. No calls. But I'm in a tough market (like Cleveland but much colder). 4. I like the Rennlist posting idea. - This is where I recently found my 02 C2 911. 5. I explored the dealer consignment angle, but as mentioned, no guarantees. 6. I also explored just trading it into a dealer and actually received several quotes. They pretty much stick to trade value +/- depending on condition. I considered this option a last, but convenient, resort. 7. Craigslist - This was the most effective and eventually, led to a sale. Lots of serious inquires, but 10x as many nut cases. Be prepared for a lot extreme lowball offers and offers to trade 92 Corollas and 2 truck loads of day old doughnuts for your car. I had a lot of fun with it and didn't take offense. Other advice. Do some market research and price your car about the same. Lower your price gradually over time until the calls and emails start. You will know when you are close to the market sales point. Mark