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YOUR RESEARCHModifying street car or E Class Economics for DE
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Roll cage, seats, harness, and fire installed for $5000 and then R Tires for $1800.
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This arguement I'm about to make hinges on figures and I know nothing about it so I need you guys to check these numbers:
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Sure, for $35,000 you may have a car qualified to run H, but not a winning car.
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I know the car wouldn't be much use for family/road activity but it seems like for a few grand more you would get way more car with the 996 (and its ugly headlights).
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I know the car wouldn't be much use for family/road activity but it seems like for a few grand more you would get way more car with the 996 (and its ugly headlights).
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OK, Rob996 posted a thread about what to do next to his 996 for DE and Himself posted a list that was endorsed by many. Then, Himself makes the arguement for a dedicated car like an E Class that could be purchased for the cost of the upgrades.
This arguement I'm about to make hinges on figures and I know nothing about it so I need you guys to check these numbers:
Looks to me like E Class cars (20 to 30 year old technology) can be bought for as little as $20,000 and ready to win for $32,000 or $35,000.
Why wouldn't you buy a used 996 for $20,000 (they are everywhere) and do the suspension work that Himslef calls for; PSS10, Sway Bars, Control Arms, etc. for about $7000 professionally installed. Roll cage, seats, harness, and fire installed for $5000 and then R Tires for $1800. Add $1000 for brake work. Now you're into a 996 for $35,000 that is probably street legal, modern technology, easier to drive, faster, better handling, etc., etc, etc. and you are now in an H class car. What's wrong with this logic? i wouldn't mess with the LWFW so you could be legal to race. Maybe that class is tiny--no competition? The only other downside I see is that you are stuck with the 996's ugly headlights. That's right, I said it again and I know the majority of responses will be in rebuttal to that comment.
So are these numbers way crazy? I know the car wouldn't be much use for family/road activity but it seems like for a few grand more you would get way more car with the 996 (and its ugly headlights). All right, you guys straighten me out.
Being IN an H class car and being competitive in H class are entirely different things. Probably at least $20k different.
I know of a competitive Euro SC probably for sale soon locally in the low to mid-$20k range with fresh engine and 2 sets of "cheater" wheels.
Doing the 2 car routine also allows you to keep a nice and comfortable street car. A truly race-prepped 996 while perhaps street legal is hardly usable on a day to day basis.
Joe
Cool but what would an H prepared 996 cost versus the mid $20's car your friend has. Do you think 20 for the car and then another $25 in mods? Thanks Joe
I haven't done it myself. I'm sure one could ask folks on here what they've spent. If they're honest, I think for shop-prepped cars it will be $55-85k.
For a proper analysis, you need 2 apples. Sure, for $35,000 you may have a car qualified to run H, but not a winning car. A more proper comparison would be entry E ($20,000) to entry H ($35,000-assuming your numbers are correct). A winning H car could easily cost $50,000 or more.
Lastly, check out the various track records. E stock is only a second or two slower than H stock.
-td