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YOUR RESEARCHBrake dampers, arrggghhhh!

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Replace sensors and dampers

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I replaced the sensors and dampers with the new Brembo brake set.

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!
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Replace after the fact if you get squeal

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You can replace after the fact if you get squeal.

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!
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Leading evidence: 'Replace sensors and dampers' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'brake squeal is mostly' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Replace after the fact if you get squeal' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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brake squeal is mostly

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I suspect brake squeal is mostly from pad material choice rather than dampers.

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!

Replace after the fact if you get squeal

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You can replace after the fact if you get squeal.

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!

Replace pads

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I�m another that did not replace them when changing the pads.

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!

Replace pads more difficult

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Exactly, why make changing pads more difficult?

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!
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Replace after the fact if you get squeal

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You can replace after the fact if you get squeal.

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!

Replace pads

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I�m another that did not replace them when changing the pads.

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!

Replace pads more difficult

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Exactly, why make changing pads more difficult?

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!

Replace sensors and dampers

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I replaced the sensors and dampers with the new Brembo brake set.

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!

Use dampers nor the sensors

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However, on my current 996, the previous owner wasn't using the dampers nor the sensors.

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!

Use should some squealing start

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I�ve kept them for future use should some squealing start.

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!
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brake squeal is mostly

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I suspect brake squeal is mostly from pad material choice rather than dampers.

Brake dampers, arrggghhhh!
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'm doing the brakes on the targa. Disassembled one corner a little while ago and discovered there is some kind of plate glued to the back of the brake pad. Digdigdig -- ah, it's a "brake damper". More digging has only sent my mind into a spinning maelstrom of confusion: some people replace them some people re-use them some people who re-use them glue them some people who re-use them don't glue them some people don't use them at all Autoatlanta hard parts pages do not list a brake damper for the 996 The latest PET I downloaded does not list a brake damper for the 996 It is nevertheless possible to purchase brand new Porsche branded brake dampers And so on. I think I'm justified in saying "arrggghhhh!!!!!" I'm not opposed to putting the job on hold until I obtain the parts, but neither do I want to spend a lot of time and effort putting something in that Porsche doesn't even list in their parts breakdown anymore. Any advice gladly digested, thanks.

POST 2Original post

this sounds like what we used to call an anti squeal shim... used to be in the box with the new pads i'm talking early 90's.

POST 3Original post

Quotes source post: 19504237

I replace them every time. https://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog...ad-dampers.htm

POST 4Original post

I put in new pads and no dampers. No problems. Just my two cents...

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 19504371

Exactly, why make changing pads more difficult?

POST 6Original post

They�re only to reduce brake squeal, no big deal to leave them out. You can replace after the fact if you get squeal.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 19504267

So, 3 votes to leave them out, 1 vote to replace them. At this point I should also add that several of the "usual" parts suppliers sell pad/rotor kits, and none of them include the dampers. Not sure what your shims were but here's what I'm talking about for the 996 (thank you FCP Euro). The flat side goes against the back of the brake pad, the **** side goes into the caliper piston(s). On the front at least there is an adhesive on the flat side to attach it to the pad. Front, 2 per side Rear, 4 per side

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 19504237

They do list them they just aren't shown in the diagram.

POST 9Original post

I�m another that did not replace them when changing the pads. I�ve kept them for future use should some squealing start.

POST 10Original post

Dave, I'm on my fourth Porsche in a decade and I used to just pop them off and reuse them on the new pads. However, on my current 996, the previous owner wasn't using the dampers nor the sensors. I replaced the sensors and dampers with the new Brembo brake set. I know a lot of people that track their cars don't like the dampers because it makes it hard to swap out the pads.

POST 12Original post

I suggest posting your brake pad brand and material and ask those that have no dampers if yours match what they have. It would be annoying to me to have pad squeal and then I�d have to back in there and do this a second time. Funny, I waited an extra amount of time during Covid supply chain issues for my dampers (Akebono pads) and remember paying a pretty penny for all those dampers on my car. I suspect brake squeal is mostly from pad material choice rather than dampers.

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 19505189

I'm trying the Porterfield R4S pads. Thanks all for the input. I'm going back together sans dampers; I'll let y'all know how it goes.

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