Oil leak 99 996. I think the dealer trick me.

I just bought a 996 from a used car dealer in Toronto. I don't know that much about cars, and it seemed like there was some oil leak. It was a good price so I ended up buying the car but when i got home and took it to the mechanic it didn't look so good. It looks like there is oil leaks on both sides of the engine. The car only has 82k KM or 55k Miles on it. So everything around it looks almost like a new. thats how i got tricked. Does anyone know what it could be ? and how to repair it? do i need to take the whole engine out. Also there was some yellow goo in the oil supply plastic. Is that some additive to hide the oil leak?

How were you tricked into buying the car? Looks to me that you didn't do your due diligence. First off that yellow goo is water. Could be condensation or coolant. Pull the dipstick if the dipstick looks like that then you have a problem. The oil looks to be sparkplug tubes. I'm on an iPhone so I can't see the picture too well. Nothing major if that what it is have the o rings change along with the plugs. Remember this car is almost 13 yrs old and things deteriorate even though it only has 55k on it.

Post photos of the car, please.

The goo or milkshake could be lack of driving at temperature ie. condensation or something much worse. Oli leaks might be any number of things. Did you have a PPI done or did you just buy the Porsche on implulse?

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no, didn't have a PPI done, just looked at it it was the cheapest one i saw in the last 3 months of searching even getting one from USA with duty and hussle of driving a new car from texas/florida/california and then worrying about getting safety and emmision. The guy thrown in a after market 2 year http://www.lubrico.com/coverage.html Lubrico Limited superior Protection warranty. But not sure about the warranty. If i go in 3 months, i read some of the fine print and its like if I overheated the engine it won't be coverd etc.. so might be hard to get them to pay for seals and gasket change even tough its covered. they will come up with some execusses. The dipstick looks good, nothing to complain about. I drove a 98 boxster before this for almost 3 years. So i checked all the stuff that was wrong with the boxster and it was all good except a repaint in the back (but i seen repaints in 3/4 cars i saw), I also have my own PST2, i connected that no errors, not even missfires. Also can i clean off that oil? Just get foam engine grease remover, spray it on and get like a steamer to remove the residue?

Goo on oil cap is condensation from not running the car up to operating temps long enough. Clean it up and DRIVE the car and see if it comes back. Also check the coolant tank. If it looks good too then you should be OK. As to the leak it could be just leaking spark plug tubes. Pretty cheap fix. Take it to an indy and they should be able to tell your where the leak is coming from.

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Thats such good news if its only spark plugs tube i guess the part number is 996 602 103 01 (spark plug connector), i guess I don't need the ignition coil. I can't find the part for the o-rings couple people mentioned. Also is there good instruction for spark plug change? I looked at the forums here but not too much, cant find anything in the Technical 996 Manual (there is a part about removing spark plugs -GT3).

wipe out the filler tube and change the oil and drive the car to remove the condensation from the oil. As for the leaks replace the seals on the spark plug tubes (leaks on the sides) and look into IMS bearing replacement and new RMS.

As others have said, the "mayonnaise" in your filler tube occurs when our car is driven short distances without warming up to normal operating temperature. It happens more frequently during cold weather months. Condensation in your engine causes the oil in the filler tube to emulsify, creating this goo. Drive it hard at operating temperature on a regular basis and you shouldn't see this again because you'll burn off the condensation.

don't worry too much.. you've got a warranty!

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"warranty"

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this one?

Spark plug tube threads. https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...acement-2.html https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...s-coils-2.html

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yeah that one... i think they will come up with 100+1 excuses not to pay out. and with all the fine print it might be too easy for them. that's why the air quotes.

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Wow. "no, didn't have a PPI done, just looked at it it was the cheapest one i saw in the last 3 months of searching" REALLY?

No big deal man. Change the oil. Change oil cap with newer part if that applies. Change plugs and tubes. Stem clean the engine and take it from there. Obviously you know it won't be perfect and that you are ready to put some work in, it is a 12 year old car afterall. Have fun and fix things when they break.

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Not to pile on here but I agree. The dealer did nothing to misrepresent the car by your account. If you didn't have a PPI done then you should have crawled around under the car yourself. A few minutes with a flashlight would have saved you the surprise. Considering the dirt accumulated on those leaks they have been there for some time. I would recommend a serious cleaning and then replace the spark plug tube seals followed by a few short interval oil changes. If the engine has been neglected you may want to have a hard look at the rest of the running gear...

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with no risk there is no reward. I am a am derivitaves trader for a living, I gamble all day. ( Maybe that's bad because if i was a really good trader i would be buying a brand new 911 turbo). might need to change my no risk no fun policy.

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Well i looked under the car, pluged my PST2. And was asking the dealer about it the leak but he was like "what leea?" we just got the car few days ago from an old gentelman that never drove it and traded it in for newer benz". So i showed him and they are like well we had it inside our showroom there is no leaks on the floor etc.. so they lied by omission, if he is a car salesperson i am sure they looked under it before the trade, and should have had couple ideas what is wrong. maybe they did and got scared with the oil leak thats why they sold it to me for such a good price, just get rid of the problem. Like I said before that was the cheapest car they had in their inventory at the dealership. The funny thing is I forgot the open the oil cap ( even though i had a 911 how to buy book with me and went through as much stuff on those list), and that would have scared me from buying it seeing the yellow goo. Now thanks to the help of amazing people on this forum I think I made the right decision. And will be happy with my purchase. Found a steaming vacum on craiglist today so I can pick it up tonight and get cleaning Thanks everyone. If you ever in my area and new some PST2 diagnostic I am all yours. Or at the next Club meet in Toronto.

Car looks clean on the outside, definitely a nice "eye job". But the inside needs some TLC. seats show an awful lot of wrinkled leather which indicates it wasn't conditioned enough. Dealer put a a top coat of shine, neglected the steering wheel, among the other pics you posted of the undercarriage. I agree, the dealer didn't feel the need to clean up the under carriage, since it showed up as such. Maybe they just got it as a quick trade in for little money, and flipped it real quick to avoid any repairs themselves. Like you and another member mentioned, if you would have done some due dilligence( i.e. further inspection), you may have seen the issues and walked away from this deal, or knocked a few grand off the dealers asking price. What do the carpets look like? either they are original and in very good to used condition, OR... they have been replaced, which might indicate that the car may have gotten some water damage, which i hope, on your behalf, is not the case. Convertibles tend to leak and the drain tubes tend to clog up and cause further damage; ask me how I know. Yes, the car pry sat unused during some of those 55K miles; prior owner(s) pry neglected required maintenance and just drove it and parked it. If you inspect it further and there are no indications of a repaint or hidden repair, then you can get some serious enjoyment out of it without getting into costly repairs to make the car right again. Good luck.

Mike: Did you get any maintenance records with the car? Have you been able to confirm that the IMS bearing has been changed? While you're under the car - take the plate covers off over top the coils (two banks) and shine a flashlight up there to confirm the leaks are coming out of the tube area's BEFORE you start steam cleaning. You can also look to see what the condition of the coil packs are like as well. Sometimes there are visible cracks across the top surface. If you know when the last time the plugs were changed (or don't know) and it's about due - you might consider changing them, the tubes (or O rings) and inspect the coils while you are under the car. The dealer isn't going to report a leak to you that doesn't end up on the floor. They would class what you have as, 'weeping' which isn't the same as a leak. If you buy a CPO car from a Porsche dealer (and pay more of course) - expect a cleaner car or one with fewer issues. I admire and am horrified at the same time by your adventurism in buying a 996 without a PPI. You certainly don't plug away buying T bills all day! Cheers.

Mike, The exterior of the car looked fantastic, almost too fantastic though, the bumper and hood would have some stone chips after 80k Km unless Clear Bra was installed early on, my car certainly had plenty of stone chips on the front bumper and lower part of the hood, there are some on the leading edge of the front fenders as well, have a closer look and I think you will find these items may have been repainted before the sale. I plan to have the front end of my car repainted sometime in the next few months as well, hopefully the shop can do an excellent job with the unusual custom ordered paint color of my car.

You simply dont buy a Porsche without a PPi. no matter what! I think you will be ok, but let this be a lesson

expect no gift from a dealer...its up to the buyer to do his due diligence and inspect the car case closed. whining about a car after the purchase is ridiculous.

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Completely agree. "Dealer tricked me?" Not quite.

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Can we expect a good story to follow about the steam vacuum too?

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The title meant to get a reaction and it did. . Caveat emptor, i owned a number of business in my life I know this better than most and never complain, saying that this is the first car I ever bought from a registered dealer so not sure about my rights and their responsibility. I went to my mechanic, who did his own safety inspection and said the leak being so close to exhaust should not pass safety (fire hazard). The dealer had a "fake" safety issued. I am gonna go to a reputable shop and get that in writing and see if i can get some money back at least for the parts. As I am not giving the car back. To the PPI lovers out there. I get your point, but i bet you are the same guys that go see an awsome car do a PPI or not and finish with "I gotta ask my wife", after two days on the couch and begging 24/7 you realize its a great car and by the time you go to the dealer the car is gone. You buy a porsche on emotions and FOR emotions. I could say the same about everyone who bought a 99-02 taking a risk on the IMS. Thats life, you take a risk by walking on the street. Get used to it. What's the worse that could happen, i buy a car about 3-4k cheaper than anything else. The engine goes, i spend 6k on a rebuilt, and have a car with low miles and awesome engine. Oh no. And don't forget I got a warranty from the dealer. That costs about 2k retail. I did the same with my boxser. I missed so much stuff on PPI its not even funny. But I had great 3 years with it. Loved every minute of it, driving was perfect. So what the roof only worked manually, I told everyone it was MODed because it was too slow to open so I would rather do it by hand. It too had an oil leak, 90% sure RMS, the clutch/breaks/engine worked great for 3 years so never got around to fixing it. Any time it rained the passanger side would get flooded and ABS light go on. That's how I became proud owner of PST2... etc.. What pushed me to buy it with the oil leak was the price/warranty and the paragraph in my 996 buyers guide book "Without fluid and lubrication, even synthetic rubber seals will start to dry out and break down, the 996 engine uses a large number of o -rings so long term storage even with due care and attention will result in many oil leaks once its started again" once again thanks for all the help. I am sure to need more with this one and the next one. There will be a picture story of the steaming process.

Mike, whatever the case may be, the car is yours now so go drive and enjoy the thing. Just perform the basic maintenence(i.e. oil change, air filter, etc.) on the car if needed and go drive it like you just stole it. BTW, congrats on the new car and here's to it performing as well for you as your old Boxster.

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FWIW, my wife bought my Porsche for me as a Birthday gift! What a great woman who has always supported me in more than 30 years of "Car Passion" She enjoys going to car events as much as I do so I would say I'm spoiled. If you got a great deal on the car and it simply needs a little TLC from a few years neglect then I think that is awesome. I am a huge fan of a little "sweat equity". Lots of folks out there who are too sacred to even touch the air filter much less repair a few leaks and are willing to pay premium dollar for a pristine car. While I am very particular about keeping my cars exceptionally clean I also don't worry about using them and getting the most our of the enjoyment. After all, it is simply a machine. Enjoy the hell out of it and I wish years of fun tooling around town. Cheers Mate!