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YOUR RESEARCHDealer tried to rape me on new battery (no lube)
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totally arrogant it is the dealer lobby
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While PCNA has proven to be totally arrogant it is the dealer lobby that has managed to get state laws passed that "protects" (St, d)ealers from factory oversight.
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I went home and checked the price that Suncoast charges for a new wheel lock kit.
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That is interesting that your dealer wants $475 to replace a battery.
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Once he found the correct key he replaced all of the old lock lugs with the new set I just purchased.
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While PCNA has proven to be totally arrogant it is the dealer lobby that has managed to get state laws passed that "protects" (St, d)ealers from factory oversight.
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Short version is 3 weeks after I bought my 04 40th 911 in June of 09, the battery died on July 14th 09, and the dealer replaced it free of charge with the standard Moll battery they use.
I got a foot infection and had to have surgery the first week of September 2010, and I could not get around and was pretty much house ridden for 2.5 months.
As soon as I could (mid December) I went to my storage garage (unfortunately no power available for a Battery Tender), and the car started up, but it did not have the normal level of cranking. It continued like this up until last week, when I had to jump start the car.
I called the dealer, and they said Porsche won't cover it due to it not being driven enough, and I would be responsible for the replacement.
I asked him how much, and he said $475.00!!
Said something about they have to reprogram the radio and all the lights will come on the dash. I knew there was some tool they use for that, so they don't have to reset all the crap.
I called a local indie battery shop, and got an Interstate MTP-H7 battery. It cost me $162 which is much better (but I hear you can do better) - but this place is 1 mile from my house.
I had no problems with the radio code or any CELs because they plug something into the ODB-II port that saves the data.
Why do the dealers have to do something like this? Now they have lost me as a customer for routine oil changes.
Anyways, I think the CCA on this battery is better than stock - it turns over so fast - it's great
Its all about the CCW (cold crank wattage?) rating. Autozone battery costs me $95 including the core trade in. The radio code is usually written on your options sticker under your frunk.
The radio code is electronically stored in the car (ECU?) after 2002. No need to manually reprogram if stock unit. I have changed my battery 2 times. First time the only thing I needed to reprogram was my clock. Second time I left my battery tender on and did not have to program anything.
I have swapped my battery with ZERO issues at all, Aside from the clock reset. Did not need my Duramntic to reset anything.
Dealers are truly thieves.... ticks me off.
I think that the dealers are used to giving gouging prices to the Porsche owners who either don't question the pricing and/or don't really know anything about their Porsches. I'd venture to say that many Rennlisters are capable and willing to do maintainance and scheduled repairs because thet choose to be involed with their Porsches, and they like the idea of saving $ when they can.
Roughly 12 years ago my wife's BMW battery died and since the car was still under warranty w/roadside assistance it was towed to the dealership. I get a call at the office asking to approve a $375 charge to TEST the battery. If they found the battery to be bad, they would apply the $$ charged for the test toward the cost of a new battery, but I'd still be on thew hook for the remainder of the cost of of the new battery, roughly another $100!
I picked up an Autozone battery for about $80 and installed it myself in the dealer parking lot in about 15 min. We just sold the car this winter and it was still using the same Autozone battery 12 years later.
My Porsche has been on the same DieHard battery for the last 8 years and (knock on wood) has never failed me.
do you have the radio code? The code is stored in the radio, not the ecu. No need to hook up to the obd port, no reset necessary, just need to re-calibrate the window/sunroof limits by opening/closing them.
Would rather deal with an Indie rather than the stealers...
that is a shame, you should report them to Porsche North America, those practice simply make them loose customer, for regular maintenance, as much as for new cars.
I don't think PCNA cares, all the dealers do the same thing, their business model is to rape and pillage and lose a portion of their customer base with older cars.
My Porsche dealer is within walking distance.. I cant and wont use them.
Steve, bottom line, you will be in the same position (weak battery) unless you drive the Porsche more and/or start using a battery maintainer.
Does you storage facility have an over head light? Maybe you can tap into that. I do (don't tell anyone!
). I only get to drive the Porsches on nice sunny weekends. When they are not being driven, they are always plugged in.
Just looked them up on porscheoemparts.com (Sonnen Porsche) and the list price on a 70amp battery is $189.96, for an 80 amp, $231.89. Some delaers are complete thieves. I use the Bosch battery available at PepBoys, exact fit, actually looks like it is the same plastic case. Usually goes for about $110.
i cannot believe the treatment. just wrong. it reminds one why you want to learn more about your car, so you can take car of the more straight forward repair items. appears always help here too. as been posted many times before, it makes one closer to their porsche.
I'm still under the CPO, so that's why I initially called the dealer - I thought it might be pro-rated or replaced free, but they said no. This probably won't happen again - I don't plan on not driving like the 2.5 months that I was home bound due to a medical issue with my shifting foot. No lights to tap into in the garage for a battery tender. You can see the garage type in my avatar's background.
I don't get the issue.
You went to a business, got a quote, were not pleased with the quote, and then went elsewhere.
Sure, $475 is brutally overpriced, but you can't rape the willing.
There is no issue, we are simply discussing how appalling
WE
find the business practice of the dealers... right or wrong we are simply expressing our opinions.
With regards to dealers gouging their customers, Some of the dealers have learned their lesson (for how long is anyones guess)
I recently broke my wheel lock key. I went to my local dealer last Friday just to purchase a key. Well the service manager came out to my car with 36 potential keys. She picked the wrong one and brought it into the parts manager. He said "they don't make this key anymore". and then he showed my the documents from PCNA stating what key replaced which. All 996 part number wheel lock keys are on there way out.
He said I can sell you a new lock set. As I braced myself,
he said, "it costs $70." That didn't seem to bad.
Immedidately, a tech comes over (the same tech that replaced my RMS under CPO) and grabbed the wheel locks, a torque wrench and cordless lug nut gun.
He realized the wheel lock key selected by the service manager was the wrong one so we began the process of finding the correct key.
Once he found the correct key he replaced all of the old lock lugs with the new set I just purchased. He was one of the senior techs there so I took the opportunity to pick his brain with regards to the IMS bearings and other known issues with the 996.
I went home and checked the price that Suncoast charges for a new wheel lock kit. $65! My local deal did right by me.
While PCNA has proven to be totally arrogant it is the dealer lobby that has managed to get state laws passed that "protects" (St, d)ealers from factory oversight.
Has anyone had any issues with the type and quality of electrons generated by non-Porsche dealer batteries. I'm concerned that these electrons may be inferior in quality and could cause an electrical malfunction or worse.
Costco battery...~$80. Tried using a Braille but got tired of not being able to crank the engine over and constantly needing to put it on a battery tender.
I believe Porsche (along with BMW and a handful of others) use new cores and casings for their batteries, and they do cost more, though of course nowhere near $400 or even $300.
That said, many dealers -including our excellent dealer here in Cary, Leith Porsche- will inform you of lower cost options. I personally have run lightweight over the shelf batteries in my 996s. The secondary battery for a late BMW e38 chassis 7 series is a small and light battery. It is a bit lower capacity so it may not suit everyone.
Sears Diehard FTW. Mine is six or seven years old, I do everything "wrong" like leaving the car sit for two weeks at a time and not using any kind of battery tenders or anything, and it starts right up every time.
That is interesting that your dealer wants $475 to replace a battery.
I replaced the battery on the Orient Express last year with a new Porsche Battery for $185 cash and carry (plus core). Took me about 30 minutes to replace it.
I also finally invested in a trickle charger given that I don't drive the car as much as I used too. Trickle charger cost $85.
I paid around $30 for two light bulbs last year. I asked if that price came with lube and the parts manager just snickered while the other guy standing there quickly walked away.
I bought more bulbs for my BMW this spring and it looked like the same bulb and paid under $8 for both.
Why are any of you guys going to the dealer for consumables like batteries, bulbs, tires, etc? To me, it's like calling a general contractor because you want your floor vacuumed.
I was in the neighborhood and wanted some loving.
Its like calling your ex girlfriend because you wanted to have sex only to remember 2 days later why you broke up with her. Life is full of bad decisions and some you make more than once...
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