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YOUR RESEARCHWhat helmet do you guys use for AutoX and DE?
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Replace helmet shell is larger and the cheek pads
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The helmet shell is larger and the cheek pads were changed out for fit.
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My next helmet will probably be an Arai, probably a christmas present to myself!
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So if I am going to spend a few hundred bucks...I'd personally rather have the helmet that can be used on the most vehicles and is safest for my noggin'.
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This is the helmet I use -
http://www.discoveryparts.com/cgi-bi...s_bell&pid=843
Good basic helmet. Really depends on fit. Arai is another top helmet supplier.
the big question is full face or open faces. some say that the open face is more appropriate for cars with airbags. But I went for the full face helmet anyways. I did buy an Arai GP5 on sale as the GP6 are coming up. For helmet it is simple, the more expensive they are, the lighter they are. The protection is similar I think but it is all about the weight. I admit that I spent the money on the Arai thinking more long term, hoping to keep it for 5 years or so. And they look and feel great.
If only using for DE and autox and no plans to race and need to hook up to fresh air systems, go to you local motorcycle dealership and try some on. Models and makes fit differently, and you should try several to find one that fits your head. Some makes I can't even wear or fit on my big ole head!
Try a HJC... they make a good helmet and several different styles and price points, but most under $250. I have been using an AC-10 for several years for both my motorcycle and for DE use.
That being said, Arai makes the best helmet out there in my opion, and fits my XXL head the best! The HJC's also fit well and are 1/2 the price, so go figure how I ended up with them. My next helmet will probably be an Arai, probably a christmas present to myself!
You should try some on to find the best fit, everybody is a bit different.
I like lighter helmets, Sparco/Arai and some higher end Bells are quite good, but I think for just DE/Auto-x use, just get one that fits well.
I have a full face Arai I picked up December 2 years ago on sale, then 50% off - brand new - it was $650. I paid $199, I now have 2 open face I picked up for the kids.... I think I will get open face next time. They are better in a car IMO
It depends on the shape of your head!
mine is longer from to back so the Arai's fit the absolute best. The new Shoei also fit well, but you really have to either spend some time with someone that knows the helmets or go and try them all on..(it is tough to find someone who knows all the helmets these days)
The HJC's fit, but only certain models and still rub my forehead a bit. Some helmets are round, some more oblong...
I am not kidding when I say some of the manufactuers won't even fit my head because of how they are shaped. I don't know whether to be embarrassed or glad that I have all that space for brains!
Ones I can't wear- Icon, scorpion, bell, and more...
I was checking the site where I bought mine and they still have them, discount price for XXL heads
http://www.saferacer.com/arai-gp5-k-...?productid=489
It looks superb in metallic gray.
BTW, when i bought mine, I tried to figure out why the "GP5-K' was $300 cheaper than the "GP5" and the only thing I could find was those 3 tiny vent holes on the top... I took the cheaper one
Only reason I got full face is because I did not want to kiss the steering wheel if something went wrong. Is it hotter? Yes, but I did not want to mess up my handsome face.
I have the RZ-21 Sport. Pretty affordable.
Linky..
http://www.apexperformance.net/cartg...lag=3&brand=84
I have a Charlie Brown head....big as a pumpkin. The helmet shell is larger and the cheek pads were changed out for fit. This was from Apex and they gave me the XL cheek pad set for free plus the helmet bag.
I have used both my nice Arai motorcycle helmet and the cheapest Zamp SA helmet at DE's. The Arai is a better fit and a bit lighter, but for 25 minute sessions, I am not sure it really matters. I went with full face helmets. Would I enjoy having a better SA helmet? Probably, but I am okay with my cheap approach.
I have a Shoei for my sportbike but from trying on tons of different helmets, Arai hands down is the most comfortable.
I wished I would of bought an Arai instead but the one I wanted was $1000 at the time! Too much.
Simpson Full Face. I also have a Simpson open face.
I have a large head and Simpson seems to fit better than Shoei. I believe Bell also runs larger like Simpson (wider)
It depends on the track/event/region as to whether an SM2005 is accepted or not. Especially when it comes to short and slower autocross events where the motorcycle helmet is an acceptable solution.
PCA regions accept SA or Sm helmets for DE and Auto X.
I use a Simpson open face SA. The Bells have a distinctive egg shape which when worn in a car with racing buckets like GT3 seats, forces your head forward in a chin down position. Not good.
Like most things, check the rulebook! As mentioned, Helmets are rated. Typically an M rating for "motorcycle" helment and others are SA rated, which is primarily for car use. Some clubs/regions, don't allow M helmets for DE/Track driving. Most do allow M helments for AX use.
While some can be found now, by the spring, expect to find SA2010 rated helments.. SA2005 helments, for most PCA regions for example, would "expire" in 5 years. An SA2010 would be good for 10 years.
That said, there are lots of variables... Full face or open face? Kevlar, carbon fiber, fiberglass construction. Large eyeports on Full Face for ease of wearing glasses. Shields, no shields. Cooling vents. Removeable liners.
Sadly, the best way to get one is to try them on. All heads are different and while one loves brand X you may find your head shape prefers brand Y.
I use this one....very comfortable, and reasonably light...best fit of everything i tried...I was also a size M for a perfect fit...which surprised me since everyone says I have a fat head :-]
http://www.stableenergies.com/HJC-Fi...JC%2DAR10%2DW/
Having ridden a motorcycle for years...safety-wise every helmet should be almost equal to others with the same safety rating, such as how well the shell survives impacts at certain angles (and how many impacts). However, the cooling and comfort (inside materials, shape and weight) can be quite different across brands.
As said by others above, requirements for Motorcycle and Car helmets are different. You can use a car rated helmet on a motorcycle but not always the other way around. So if I am going to spend a few hundred bucks...I'd personally rather have the helmet that can be used on the most vehicles and is safest for my noggin'.
I just bought this:
HJC FS-15 SNELL 2010 Full Face Helmet - just over $200 out the door.
It fits tight around my cheeks but am told that's the safest fit. Wow these things are snug!
I fortunately had a good sales person help me out.
AND fortunately a SNELL 2010 - I guess most inventory is still 2005...
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