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YOUR RESEARCHDriving the 911 in the winter
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Replace rads last year (the condensers were okay
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I had to replace both rads last year (the condensers were okay with just an acid bath).
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are you running A/S tires because Max Performance Summer tires are not ver good in the snow (unless the plan is to "have fun")
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In terms of how the car stands up to the use, I am super impressed with the paint and body, especially since I park in underground lots rather than out in the cold.
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In terms of how the car stands up to the use, I am super impressed with the paint and body, especially since I park in underground lots rather than out in the cold.
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Before I buy my 02 C2, I intended on dd the car and thru the winter as well. Also having one car only (911) to save on insurance and maintenance of 2 cars. Here in Toronto, some years you get hit bad and some are very light in terms of bad winter weather.
I made that decision based on all the reading I did here and how the car is good in the snow with snow tires
now the problem is that after I bought the car and 1 week of ownership, I feel that the car is so special to dd and/or winter driving. But on the other hand, paying for 2 cars is not financially sensible either (or is it??). I already have an 02 TL which I was planning to sell to help reduce the amount owing on the 911.
Any input on this matter is appreciated as I am confused.
I have a 4x4 as well so I'm planning on hiding mine away for the winter. Truthfully I won't even drive it if there is a hint of rain in the forcast.....but then again I have another set of wheels to drive so it's no bigger for me.
Winter tires are a must! Does the car have PSM? With PSM and winter tires you should be OK, but I certainly prefer my C4. The summer tires are not really good for winter driving. It is a combination of the the tread pattern and even more importantly the rubber compound. The compound used in summer tires gets very hard when the temp goes below 40degrees F or so.
So the best bet is to buy a set of wheels and a set of winter tires so that you can swap them out when the season changes.
Even on my C4, all of which have PSM, the summer tires are really not usable in the winter.
Welcome to the forum P7. Don't worry , your Porsche 'likes' the winter driving as much as the summer driving, the engine provides great traction because it's over the driving wheels...just add dedicated snows to the mix and you will be fine. Many Rennlist forum members are driving all year round, and our 911s are happy because we do.
I have driven mine all winter up until our move to Colorado. With proper winter tires, a 911 will do very well in snow and slush. The only problem you might have is deep snow. If it's deeper than 4 - 5 inches, you could get "beached".
I'm actually going to buy a winter beater truck now that I live in heavy snow country (it snowed 15 inches here last week - gone already, but not good for the 911 while it was here).
I've winter driven mine in Toronto for a few years, now. It really works pretty well. It's very competent in the snow with the right tires (I have no traction assists on my car) and is surprisingly easy to collect back up again if you do something stupid and get it sideways (which takes a lot of effort). As others have said, the only thing that will stop you is really deep stuff.
In terms of how the car stands up to the use, I am super impressed with the paint and body, especially since I park in underground lots rather than out in the cold. I don't do much special, just a good coat of wax in the spring and fall, and a couple of times I've sprung to have the plastic removed from the undercarriage and get the whole thing steam cleaned.
The one thing you cannot ignore, though, is keeping the rads clean. You should do this annually. What can happen is that leaves and crap can collect in the corners, soak up brine and then hold it there while it does its work. I had to replace both rads last year (the condensers were okay with just an acid bath).
I did get high centered two years ago in a blizzard in Wisconsin. On the highway I was passing everything else. Then we pulled into a Culvers for lunch. The lot was not plowed and had 6-8+ inches of snow in it. Nest thing I new the car was sitting on top of the snow with all four wheels spinning. Took a couple of shovels, 10 minutes and a few guys to give it a push back out to the street, and off we went.
are you running A/S tires because Max Performance Summer tires are not ver good in the snow (unless the plan is to "have fun")
I found snow tires (not studded) to be a wonderful tool for negociating the northwest slop on hills. My C2 w/o andthing special or any computer controls handled about the best of any car I have ever had in the snow!
I bet all of you winter Porsche drivers get some interesting looks from those who believe they need a 4x4 SUV to survive the winter.
Here in the Carolinas every time it snows the cities shut down so I keep my summer tires on all year long even with a daily driver. Fortunately we do have a little SUV if things get real bad but they never have.
When I lived in the Northeast and had my 944 though, I did keep a beater vehicle for the winter.
No doubt about the comments I got last winter. "Why do you drive a porsche in the snow?".(Because it's a blast). Many have trouble when they see my 911 in the parking lot at the ski slopes, but some thought it was pretty cool that I was driving it in the snow.
I live on a farm with 100 yard long drive. Drove the C4S all year for 2 years now. Have yet to get stuck. Best winter car I've ever driven including a bunch of SUV's. Just the deep snow issue and getting beached. However, it's not for everyone. You need to realize how much fun it is to drive in the snow and be of the mindset that life is short so having fun every day is important. The older I get, the easier it is to remember this. Hence, I have a smile on my face every day 12 months of the year when I get in one of my cars.
Ha, as stated before - its the best weapon for the snow I have ever had...northwest snow is wet and compacts into ice right away... the 996 was incredibly fun and safe to drive (plus the looks while getting gas, coming into work or what have you were priceless)
in 1-2 days you can learn SOOO much about throttle steering too
Before Ed had the black 996 C2, I drove that car during Pacific Northwest winters including Cascade mountain range runs. It performed well on Bridgestone Blizzaks. Now that I own the car again, I intend to fit Nokians on this car for next winter.
