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YOUR RESEARCHPaint Swirl Marks.
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Clean right way, imo theirs not a better looking color
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i jus asked the same question on another thread, i guess i was lucky with previous owner because i've never had a problem with swirl marks, whats the difference with a black porsche & any other black car, their all hard to keep clean, how do you get the swirl marks, from somebody not knowing how to wax or buff the car, or can you get them another way, once you get a black car cleaned the right way, imo theirs not a better looking color.
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i used a scratch remover called quixx, suppose to be one of the best, but i used the #1 & #2 step lotions, no sandpaper, but it left a very dull & hazy spot on my car that i can't bring back the shine, does anyone have any suggestions, someone had told me he thought i took the clear off, do you know how to bring it back, i've already tried waxing, buffing, & even a clay bar, but it still has that hazy dull spot in it!
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Same process used here - then Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze used to provide the final seal once the polishing was done.
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i used a scratch remover called quixx, suppose to be one of the best, but i used the #1 & #2 step lotions, no sandpaper, but it left a very dull & hazy spot on my car that i can't bring back the shine, does anyone have any suggestions, someone had told me he thought i took the clear off, do you know how to bring it back, i've already tried waxing, buffing, & even a clay bar, but it still has that hazy dull spot in it!
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Clean right way, imo theirs not a better looking color
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i jus asked the same question on another thread, i guess i was lucky with previous owner because i've never had a problem with swirl marks, whats the difference with a black porsche & any other black car, their all hard to keep clean, how do you get the swirl marks, from somebody not knowing how to wax or buff the car, or can you get them another way, once you get a black car cleaned the right way, imo theirs not a better looking color.
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i used a scratch remover called quixx, suppose to be one of the best, but i used the #1 & #2 step lotions, no sandpaper, but it left a very dull & hazy spot on my car that i can't bring back the shine, does anyone have any suggestions, someone had told me he thought i took the clear off, do you know how to bring it back, i've already tried waxing, buffing, & even a clay bar, but it still has that hazy dull spot in it!
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Just to update - since this thread started, technology has moved along - and I now use a paint prep polish and sealant from Autopia from their Ultima range.
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i used a scratch remover called quixx, suppose to be one of the best, but i used the #1 & #2 step lotions, no sandpaper, but it left a very dull & hazy spot on my car that i can't bring back the shine, does anyone have any suggestions, someone had told me he thought i took the clear off, do you know how to bring it back, i've already tried waxing, buffing, & even a clay bar, but it still has that hazy dull spot in it!
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Guys, I do not have a lot of experience in car detailing. The question I have is what is the best method of removing swirl marks
from the paint finish? What products do you uys use to protect your paint finish. Any recommendations will be appreciated.
Thanks, Manny.
Its guards red. I had a black C4S and got rid of it in less than 4 months. Black is a beautiful color, but if your **** about keeping it looking good it will drive you crazy!!
Go check out the concours & car care forum:
https://rennlist.com/forums/concours-and-car-care-86/
Or search in this forum. Tons of GREAT info here, I learned more about washing and detailing my own car here than I even knew there was to learn. And I still consider myself a complete beginner (though I think I now can wash my car without scratching it!). Someday I might even try clay/polish/wax, but I'll use my wife's car as the guinea pig...
Manny,
get yourself a Porter Cable polisher, pads and a swirl polish.
Autopia do good products and have great how-to articles.
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/son-450.html
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/sonsbfpp.html
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-pc7424.html
Here's a sample of my swirls before using the Swirlbuster polish and pad from Autopia
And Here's afterwards
It's easy to use, saves a lot of hand polishing, and is the perfect prep for your chosen wax or sealer.
I just wash and clay before I polish, then polish and wax/seal for final finish.
Manny, just saw that your car is Guards red like the wife's Boxster.
Same process used here - then Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze used to provide the final seal once the polishing was done.
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/kus-kls-gla.html
Gives a nice wet look gloss which is very hard wearing and easy to keep clean.
Chris.
Yep they do.
Clay:
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/tps-clylub.html
Sealant:
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/kus-kls-gla.html
There are great how to write ups on this website as well:
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/how-to.html
I went to one of their actual demo sessions at the local Porsche club meet, and David (Mr Autopia) did some great demos on his Porsche Cayenne.
Nice guy, and he knows his techniques for keeping cars looking great.
how can you put before and after pictures of different angles/lighting on the car?????????? Makes no sense. Your car looks beautiful and clean though...
Well if I'd remembered to take shots of the hood before I polished that part! .......
Here's another after shot to make your day - hood under a fluro tube in the garage - this is my acid test as fluro lights show swirls which you just don't see in normal daylight.
VERY NICE guys...something like that would cost you around $300 to have it professionally done. That black is especially difficult to get looking like that....and just wiping it off without dusting it first will leave swirls. Very nice job(s) indeed....all both of you.
Thank you sir!
With the $300 I save each time on each car - I've justified a decent set-up for detailing the P-Cars, and even Wifey fully approves!
The tent has made all the difference - means I can detail any day, sunny or not.
Well maybe through this list, I'll have a chance to discuss P-car with you over a plowmans' lunch at some theme pub in SoCal, I'm heading over there soon. (I was transfered two years ago but delayed it a little bit). Moving to Temecula, Working in LA...
It's as close to drawing blood as possible in Tucson to get guys to enjoy their cars out here.... "Oh Mount Lemmon is hard on my suspenion" Kitt Peak is too far. Etc. Etc.
I would hope there's a good pub out there. I'm Canadian but was schooled in the arts of Pubs near Guilford, Woking and Windsor.
No that sounds like a great plan!
There are a couple of English pubs in San Marcos, South of Temecula on the 15, and a really good selection in San Diego itself, including the Shakespear's just across from the airport.
Nice plowmans and some decent English beers
Your commute from Temecula to LA could be awesome - Ortega Hwy (74)
One of the best twisty routes in SoCal
Give me a shout when you're here, and we can arrange a local Porsche welcome
i used a scratch remover called quixx, suppose to be one of the best, but i used the #1 & #2 step lotions, no sandpaper, but it left a very dull & hazy spot on my car that i can't bring back the shine, does anyone have any suggestions, someone had told me he thought i took the clear off, do you know how to bring it back, i've already tried waxing, buffing, & even a clay bar, but it still has that hazy dull spot in it!
Correctly using a clay bar only lifts off surface contaminants. Using one incorrectly can add lots of scratches. In either case, you will need to use some sort of scratch/swirl remover and/or polish to remove the fine imperfections.
++++ on Griot"s. Just spent Fathers day doing what I wanted to do. Wash, Clay, Polish, Wax. What a difference. It was my first crack at detailing. The orbital was great. Sorry no before or after pics but the swirls on my DD are gone. My wife even was amazed at the mirror reflection.
Just to update - since this thread started, technology has moved along - and I now use a paint prep polish and sealant from Autopia from their Ultima range.
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/ultima.html
Even easier to use, and the results have been excellent and longer lasting.
Same 986 and 996 as before:
Their Paint Guard Plus is easier than the Klasse sealant to apply - just takes 10 mins once the polishing is done - and no buffing.
Lasts a good 6 months+ as well - even with daily use and weekly washing.
CDODKIN turned me on the Ultima line of sealants about a year ago. I'd never go back to my old wax process. So easy, looks great, and lasts. The end.
Shawn
i jus asked the same question on another thread, i guess i was lucky with previous owner because i've never had a problem with swirl marks, whats the difference with a black porsche & any other black car, their all hard to keep clean, how do you get the swirl marks, from somebody not knowing how to wax or buff the car, or can you get them another way, once you get a black car cleaned the right way, imo theirs not a better looking color.
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