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thank gawd it was the day after a track day and not going down the front straight as speed !!!
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They are very quiet great ride same handling as the Potenzas they replaced but less tram-lining.
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We ran Bridgestone RE-960's on our 993 and absolutely loved them.
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I put a 2008 P Zero *used from ebay - on mine to replace a non-matching tire the p/o had put on ...
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1. Continental Extreme Contact DW for $800 shipped from Discount Tire Direct.
2. Continental SportContact 2
N2
for $745 shipped from friend in the tire biz.
3. Sumi III for $706 shipped from Tire Rack
Or just get 2 used Michelin PS1s for the fronts. My fronts were made in 2001...yikes. About $150 for 2 used ones made in 2008. The rears are okay for another summer.
Fronts are 225/40/18 and rears are 285/30/18.
I had
NO
love for my Continental SportContact 2 N2 at all.. Wore fast.. even for a 911.. got loud. Grip was ok... nothing great.
Sumi's are good for the $$
No experience with the Summer Tire Conti DW, I have the DWS all season on my Cayenne and they are EXCELLENT! But all seasons on a 911... nah!
If you car is a CPO, you may want an N rated tire to be safe.
This must be the great winter of Rennlist "what tire?" threads...
OK I'll bite: Spend the $150 now on the Michelins to get the full life out of your rears and then buy the Sumis next fall - but only if you have real confidence in what you describe as "used" tires.
I just got the DW's....much better than my Khumo's by a million miles. So far so good!
Only downside for me is they didn't make 295/30/18...so I had to go to a 285...but the ride is nice and not even broken in the grip has been outstanding.
get rid of those old tires.... my old tires with "lots of tread" did this to me... thank gawd it was the day after a track day and not going down the front straight as speed !!!
I learned my lesson - NO OLD TIRES
SUMI's
I've had no personal experience with the Contis, but know people that have not been very happy with them. I have worn out one set of Sumis and thought they performed much better than expected, especially at their price point. I ordered another set and installed them for the guy that bought my car. Talking with him months later, he's happy with them as well.
Sumis are a terrific street tire and I'm sure you won't go wrong with them. Contis are a maybe.
I'd be pissed if I got a CPO'd car with 9 year old tires on it!!!!
They do a 100+ safety check bringing the car to "like new" condition and leave 9 year old tires on it??!!! Unacceptable.
Lesson learned. I didn't check when I bought it. There used to be an age limitation for tires on CPO car, but now only tread depth and matching tires.
My car is street driven with about 2 DEs per year.
We ran Bridgestone RE-960's on our 993 and absolutely loved them. We will put them on anything now requiring all-season tires they were so good. More expensive than the Sumi's, but IMHO worth it.
Looks like you are right. But the RE-970 has now superseded the 960. They do have the 225/40, but you would have to go up to 275/35 in the rear. Looking at my car, that should not be a problem.
I put a 2008 P Zero *used from ebay - on mine to replace a non-matching tire the p/o had put on ... so far so good and let me run the fronts for another season before I change all 4 .... so that was the way to go in my case (but it only cost me $50).
If you are not on the track - I'd say you probably don't need N rated - we are not on the autobahn here doing 200kmph+ in the wet - so the Sumi is a good choice if you are looking to save a few bucks ... lots of positive reviews on that here .....
Just mounted Sumis this afternoon. All I can say is they are cheaper, quieter and better in the rain than the NT-01s ive been rolling on since June.
Hey, its DE season year round in my hood.
Option #1 Conti DW. Have them on my 968 DD now with about 1000 miles driven. They are very quiet great ride same handling as the Potenzas they replaced but less tram-lining.
have used Pirrelli's, Michelin ps2's and spend lose to 3K every year on tires
This is the first summer I've been running Sumi's and I love them for the fact they cost almost 1/3 of the price!
Sure you lose the feeling like your on rails and they don't look as good but it's a smoother ride (softer side wall) and they last muuuuuuch longer, at this rate I'll do at least 2 years on them... and they are real quiet!
For 1/3 of the price!?
That's a no brainer
Yes they are cheaper, but as you say the loss of feeling on rails on a Porsche is not the way to go in my opinion. In fact I bought Sumis and returned them to the rack and got the Yoko AD08s. Love them! Never again for me sub brand tire to save a few bucks. The $1200 per set for Michelin or AD08s is a good spend. I felt the same until I tried the Sumi IIIs. Sidewall flex was horrible.
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