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I checked on cars.com for giggles earlier this week, and didn't see a single 997 listed below 40k.
what's the best year for the 996? or go for a 997?
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Probably the 997 because I like the styling, the interior is nicer, and I buy into the line of thinking that says to purchasie the newest PCar you can afford.
what's the best year for the 996? or go for a 997?
Recommend 997s/997 or 996 turbo/gt3 if your budget allows
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I would recommend a 997S/997 or 996 Turbo/GT3 if your budget allows.
what's the best year for the 996? or go for a 997?
Replace on this, my mind is already made up
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1 year is a long time (if all is well, sometime next summer), yeah, but my opinion isn't going to change on this, my mind is already made up
what's the best year for the 996? or go for a 997?
Replace slightly; i've heard
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there were a couple of them before New Year's, I'm sure that in a year or so this will change slightly; I've heard that line before - and that's kind of my take on this too - I would want to buy the newest I can get for the $$$, but still with decent milage/condition
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there were a couple of them before New Year's, I'm sure that in a year or so this will change slightly; I've heard that line before - and that's kind of my take on this too - I would want to buy the newest I can get for the $$$, but still with decent milage/condition
what's the best year for the 996? or go for a 997?
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Probably the 997 because I like the styling, the interior is nicer, and I buy into the line of thinking that says to purchasie the newest PCar you can afford.
what's the best year for the 996? or go for a 997?
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In the near future, I would like to get into a 996. From little search and what I have heard/read about - stay away from early (pre 2002 models) - what about Turbo models?
Any of you guys with a 996 wished you waited or upgraded to a 997?
I would really like to get into a 2002-2004 RWD 911, or possibly a Turbo if the price is good.
Love the look of the 997 (this would be non-turbo though), and they are in the same price range for the 2005-2006 as 2001+ Turbo's
This won't happen for at least 1 year, and I may choose to sell the 944 at that moment as well.
Most likely this would be just a weekend, occasional DE car.
996 GT3 is the best bet. Turbo is next. 2004 40th Edition is a pretty good value. Other than that, all 996s are pretty equal - even the early models.
-td
The 996 and 997 are in very different price ranges at the moment. I definitely like my 996, but the 997 S would be in my garage, if I could afford it. Hp is very close to GT3 levels, and the interior is SO MUCH better.
-JOn
I would recommend a 997S/997 or 996 Turbo/GT3 if your budget allows.
Otherwise, I would go with a 911 40th Anniv. as it has the best packaging in the Carrera series.
Happy Hunting.
Not really. The 3.6 GT3 is underrated from the factory. Many - if not most - easily push 400 at the crank. Mine dyno'd at 373 at the wheels on a Mustang dyno. Assuming only 10% power train loss, that puts the HP over 410 easy. (Plus the suspension is better, the car is lighter, etc etc).
In the 997 variant: a 997.1 S with X51 might barely break 330 on the dyno - and it's rated at the same 380. The newest 997.2 S with X51 is rated at 408 HP, but you're looking at well over $100,000 for that.
997S [sans X51] may only top 310-ish on the dyno. 997 S-Cars that are chipped, headers, intake etc, might bump 320.
997 base might creep past 300 rwhp if you threw all the mods at it, but otherwise your down in the 270-280 range.
No doubt that the 996 variant GT3 is the better in the HP arena. If you move to 997, well, now you're just in silly HP ranges
But, can't argue about interior, 997>996.
-td
figure, just randomly looking on Ebay and something like Cars.Com - 2001-2003 996 Turbo can be had for around $35k
other 996 would be just a regular N/A, no GT3/GT2
a 997 from 2005-2006 (same sources) - can be had for roughly the same price, no special models here either (no GT2/3/RS etc)
are the differences between earlier 996 and later 996 that much noticible? and what about the turbo, do they have many problems, and if so, with what?
1 year is a long time (if all is well, sometime next summer), yeah, but my opinion isn't going to change on this, my mind is already made up
td,
I'm not sure I believe you about those hp ratings. You better let me try your car, so I can get personal experience.
Good food for thought, and makes me wonder if the 6GT3 should be my next target.
-Jon
It depends on a lot, but finances is a big one. I have a friend that bought a brand new 997 this year - and I kind of like the fact that his new car will depreciate more in 1 year and a bit than I paid for my sweet 996 C4S...
I agree with what a lot of people are saying about the GT3 - lot of car for the money, you can't go wrong.
If you want a 997, just wait a year or so. Especially in your part of the world, everyone will want the newest, most expensive, and what they perceive to be the best Porsche they can finance - the 991. Once these come out, it is a natural step in the process that prices will fall for the 997 across the board.
Good luck and take your time, it's wicked fun shopping for a Porsche!
OK - that's just wrong
I think the question you have to ask yourself is what do you wan the car for... if you get hooked on DE's and start modding stuff then you should get a "simple car" that may have a few cosmetic issues and spend the savings on upgrades. Seats, suspension, brakes, ect - I see a lot of cars passed up for worn driver seat... hell, I'm taking that thing out anyhow!!
in fact I would even consider an interior removal for my next car... or this one
+1 for the 996 iteration GT3. One heck of a car. My buddy's GT3 was putting out 415 at the crank with just modest improvements. I drove the car only once- it was wickedly fast and amazingly docile in handling.
If a GT3 isn't in the budget, I guess Bruce Anderson's statement, "Buy the newest you can afford," probably makes sense. Enjoy your hunt!
I am not gonna lie, I am slim but after driving the 996 for about 3 hours straight I felt like I was run over by a dump truck after I got out. The seats pinch your body too much.
are they? i'll have to check mine becasue my 997 seats are WAY better than my 996
maybe I have sport seats, or something (I'm on top of things, can you tell) but my 997 seats just cradle me, way, way way better then the 996 seats
I'm like 5'10" 165lbs
want to drive a bargain, take the 996, I think great car as a first 911, to get a feel of the rear engine car. The newer car always drive better. Times does take its tool on everything. The newer car are sharper drives. 997 C2S, the best of everything, rear wheel drive, light, enough power for everyday and some. Gt3 is for track junky only. TT if you live somewhere you can use its power...germany may be
well like I mentioned, I may consider selling the 944 when the time comes, or keep it around for auto-x/race-car stuff
I'll definitely take my time with finding the right car, I love the look of the 996, don't know if I'd be able to get a Turbo or a GT3 though
kind of the reason why I asked if the differences between the models are that noticible; and now that they are around 10 years old for the models I am looking at - would you feel safe with buying an early car rather then late?
thanks guys!
If I had a 35k budget it would definitely be 996tt or an entry level 997. Probably the 997 because I like the styling, the interior is nicer, and I buy into the line of thinking that says to purchasie the newest PCar you can afford.
I checked on cars.com for giggles earlier this week, and didn't see a single 997 listed below 40k. I'm sure you can get one done for near 35k, but it may take some looking.
If I was going to become a track junky, I would probably find a mechanically sound 996 with a cosmetic issue or two to keep the price down, then mod the crap out of it.
If you track, gt3.
If you DE a little, and DD and want to use in on all surfaces and, for about 8k, get it to 550hp and 580lbft....via a flash, exhaust, and perhaps some suspension...the turbo...with that it is up to current supercar standards and perhaps more. I have an 02. It "lacks" fiber optic audio...making an upgrade cheap.....
The mk1 carbon disks are not thought of highly in the track circles....for a street driven car, they may take a lot to heat up, but they'll probably last a LONG time.
These are both gt1 block engined cars. I have a turbo and feel like it will go for 300k miles. Since I am at 45k now, it will last me a few decades. Tank.
And, some have pretty cool interiors even by 997 standards.... (my car in the picture....I'd rather have a 996 turbo than a 997 NA car other than a gt3).
Jeff
there were a couple of them before New Year's, I'm sure that in a year or so this will change slightly; I've heard that line before - and that's kind of my take on this too - I would want to buy the newest I can get for the $$$, but still with decent milage/condition
996 turbo's are all TT correct? how are they maintenance wise?
that is a VERY nice interior, wow!
