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YOUR RESEARCHAero Kit spoiler purchase from MA Shaw?
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I bought my Mark II wing from Mike, It's getting installed now, when it arrived it seemed like an EXACT copy of the factory unit and included the wiring harness, it was already primed and ready for paint.
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He answered a couple of emails, it was the same address on his website, I don't think he is all that Internet savvy.
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Test of character is how someone responds
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Sadly, the truest test of character is how someone responds when things are not going well, hence my question over the return policy.
Use factory front bumper and skirts and mike agreed
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I always intended to use factory front bumper and skirts and Mike agreed that I would be happiest with a factory bumper.
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If you communicated with him by email I'd appreciate it if you could you PM me the address so that I can be sure that it's the same one that I used from his website.
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I bought my Mark II wing from Mike, It's getting installed now, when it arrived it seemed like an EXACT copy of the factory unit and included the wiring harness, it was already primed and ready for paint.
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If you communicated with him by email I'd appreciate it if you could you PM me the address so that I can be sure that it's the same one that I used from his website.
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Here I am doing a follow-up and still not getting an email response from him.
Has anyone out there bought a MK 1 aerokit spoiler (any any spoiler for that matter) from MAShaw?
As some of you might know, my aero kit purchase from DPS fell through this week because the spoiler and the paint were not as described. I'm now in the market for another spoiler.
I spoke with Mike Shaw on Wednesday and he seemed nice enough - very helpful, etc. He seemed to take great pride in making a high quality product. He claimed that his MK 1 aero spoiler was identical to the OEM one with the exception of the number of adjustable positions (he said his had one adjustable position vs. 2).
I dropped him a couple of emails with some follow-up questions to get clarifications and have not gotten a response. That worried me a little. When I first was shopping for the spoiler I dropped him an email to inquire about his wing and got no response. Here I am doing a follow-up and still not getting an email response from him.
Can anyone vouch for him and the quality of his wings? Are they of high quality? How good is he with communication? (his lack of response on email does not suggest so) Does he fix issues when they come up? What is his return policy? Any issues I should know about?
I bought my Mark II wing from Mike, It's getting installed now, when it arrived it seemed like an EXACT copy of the factory unit and included the wiring harness, it was already primed and ready for paint. My body shop says it looked great. I will let you know how it looks when I get my car back Monday.
Mike was a pleasure to deal with, very honest and shipped fast as promised and well as giving me a Rennlist price. It it fits well once on the car I cant say enough good things about Mike.
I always intended to use factory front bumper and skirts and Mike agreed that I would be happiest with a factory bumper. Nice guy.
Thanks Marc. I wasn't sure if it was you that had recently bought from him, but I knew that someone around here had.
How responsive was he to emails? As I said, he's not responded to a single email yet - it's really odd. How did you deal with him, by phone? If you communicated with him by email I'd appreciate it if you could you PM me the address so that I can be sure that it's the same one that I used from his website.
Did you get info on him on return policies if you were not happy?
I want to buy from him, but I also need to get some answers to follow-up questions. I prefer to get these things in writing (in case something goes wrong), so email is the best avenue if I can do it that way.
Thanks!
He answered a couple of emails, it was the same address on his website, I don't think he is all that Internet savvy. On the phone he was a pleasure to deal with and told me if the tail was not as represented he would take it back . fair enough. As soon as I get my ride back I will take some detailed pics. I did have to email him twice for a tracking number.
Thanks. Okay, so I do have the correct email address, he just hasn't answered yet. I made it clear that I was ready to buy. Was he punctual in returning your emails? I sent my first email on Wednesday and another on Thursday.
I had the same experience on the phone - he was great and I loved talking to him. Sadly, the truest test of character is how someone responds when things are not going well, hence my question over the return policy. I want to be sure that he'll take the part back if it arrives damaged, or defective in some way.
My latest experience with DPS shows that in any purchase the return policy is your best friend if things go wrong.
Done... we'll see what comes up.
I always get worried when I see communications issues with a vendor. I'd love to buy from him, but that is one red flag.
Gotta say, I had nice phone conversations, he called me back, shipped when he said he would ship and product looks good and I am VERY **** retentive about my car. It had to REALLY look good!
The reviews from the 993 guys have been positive so far. They say that he's not an email guy and prefers the phone.
In searching the forums I've only found one horror story of poor fit and that came from a local guy that I've met - I've sent him a PM to find out more of the story. Additionally, I've PM'ed a couple of guys here that I think bought from him, so hopefully I'll have a good database of info by Monday.
I'm actually thinking about buying the MKII spoiler also and I'm glad to hear that its fitting well. I was worried. Maybe we should see if we can get a deal on two spoilers, one for you and one for me from MaShaw.
PM me if you haven't purchased already.
Well, he's the problem. I cannot bring myself to spend $4700 (ex. Sunset) on an OEM wing for a car this age. It's just not a sensible thing to do.
Porsche artificially jacks up the price to force people to buy the entire kit for an extra $1K. I already have most of the kit and only need the spoiler. When I bought the bumper and side skirts I wasn't prepared to spend $6K for parts and I'm certainly not prepared to pay $5K for the spoiler now.
Everything I'm hearing is that the quality of the wings is good and indistinguishable from the OEM, so that works (and is important) for me. I don't want a cheap looking part, but I also don't want to spend hyper-inflated prices just because of Porsches whacked pricing policies where they're trying to sell an entire kit.
I have not purchased yet, but to be honest, would not want to complicate a deal by buying multiple parts.
Please understand that I've just had to go to the hassle of sending one wing back because it was not what I wanted, I don't really want to get into the hassles of purchasing for multiple people and risk having to deal with more hassles like that.
Cost is not really the issue (well beyond not wanting to pay $4700 for OEM), I care more about quality. I want something that looks like OEM without paying OEM prices.
we'll looks like your prediction was fairly close. Some were helpful, others didn't like me probing to get a realistic assessment. Mixed bag, but still helpful.
Overall, it looks like the feedback is positive and mike would probably do the right thing if there was an issue with the wing. I'll try to call him this week to get answers to the rest of my questions.
The biggest help was knowing that you're probably as picky as I am and you didn't have any issues.
I would agree with one thing the 993'ers said, Mike is clearly not an email guy, In my 20 years as an IT Professional I have seen many people who just do not do email well. But I agree with your point that if you do business on the Internet and post an email address than you should be responsive..
All that said, dealing with Mike I got that "warm and fuzzy" feeling for him as a vendor and thus far I am pleased, also Mike is a Rennlist vendor and had been involved with Rennlist for a long time.
I wish I had taken some pics of the spoiler before I gave it to the shop
Interesting about your dealings with DPS, Seems like they are a shop that does indeed make mistakes but for me Dayton stood behind his product.
I bought a used set of Sport designs from him and there were a few "not as advertised issues" and he made it right and made me a happy customer. With his return policy I would buy from him again (just not a rear wing!
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I think you nailed it pretty well. I know that I was happy with my conversation with Mike last week, so I think I'd be safe there. So far I haven't seen any red flags that would stop me from buying from him.
Interesting about the price difference between a MK1 and MK 2 week... I didn't expect that.
As for Dayton - he has treated me very well and would buy from him again. I was very happy with my last purchase from him and would have been happy with this one if all had been described. I probably would not buy painted parts from him again, but I'd have no hesitation buying anything else.
Interesting thing to come out of this is that I got a PM offering an OEM wing, so we'll see how that goes. It would be nice to just repaint an OEM to the right color.
Wellard
I finally made it over to the body shop today to see my DPS aero kit. Long story short, Dayton only sent the skirts. No sign of the Front bumper and the rear deck.
Wellard,
I bought all my MK1 aero pieces from Mike... fortunately he's only 10 minutes from where I work...
After spending several months looking for an OEM rear spoiler with no luck I went aftermaket . After seeing many of MA Shaw's wings, skirts, etc. on other cars here locally I went with MA Shaw....
First of all
call
him.... he's extremely friendly and helpful but busy.... I usually had to leave messages for him but he was always prompt in returning them.... He even delivered to my office the plastic inserts/screws for mounting the chin spoiler (they were omitted from delivery for some reason).
Second, the quality of the rear wing is very good.... The wing is primer coated when you get it which saves your body shop some work. One thing to note however, the method for shimming the wing is different than the OEM wing. You won't be able to use the OEM shims to alter the degree on your wing... I have not altered mine so it has not been a problem... but talk to Mike and have him explain the process to you.. Its not that big a deal to me, but it might be for you..... IMHO once the wing is painted and on your car you wont be able to tell the difference from the MA Shaw wing and an OEM wing.
Lastly, If I had to do all over again I would use Mike without hesitation.....
Gratuitous pic of the car with the MK1 aero kit completed attached....
Cheers....
Actually, no, it was $4700 from Sunset Porsche. The Mk II wing is $3300.
Ouch! Not sure I'd be happy with that one. Sorry to hear that you didn't get the full delivery.
Thanks! This is great feedback. Always good to know that Mike comes with a recommendation!
Thanks for all your help!
Well, here is my MASHAW wing and I must say I am VERY pleased with it! Missing the covers for the bolts but I am sure Mike will send me those. Quality and feel is very good, Fit is very good! Might still need a minor adjustment but thats ok.
