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Replace by porsche

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Complete engine replaced by Porsche.

when did the intermediate shaft change
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Replace between 99 and 01

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OK - so what did change between 99 and 01?

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Replace engines are rebuilt units not new

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My understanding is that ALL warranty replaced engines are REBUILT units NOT new.

when did the intermediate shaft change

Replace i do recall

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I do recall that when I found out mine was replaced it made me feel very confident about my purchase of this car.

when did the intermediate shaft change

Replace between 99 and 01

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OK - so what did change between 99 and 01?

when did the intermediate shaft change

Replace configuration of the timing chains (and tensioner system?)

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The 3.6 litre cars have variocam, which changed the configuration of the timing chains (and tensioner system?) but otherwise, the same IMS mounting system and the same sprocket design?

when did the intermediate shaft change
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Replace between 99 and 01

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Suggestion · Original poster

OK - so what did change between 99 and 01?

when did the intermediate shaft change

Replace by porsche

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Complete engine replaced by Porsche.

when did the intermediate shaft change

Replace configuration of the timing chains (and tensioner system?)

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Suggestion · Original poster

The 3.6 litre cars have variocam, which changed the configuration of the timing chains (and tensioner system?) but otherwise, the same IMS mounting system and the same sprocket design?

when did the intermediate shaft change

Replace engines are rebuilt units not new

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My understanding is that ALL warranty replaced engines are REBUILT units NOT new.

when did the intermediate shaft change

Replace his/her engine

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Suppose stv951's acquaintance (who just lost a 996 3.6 engine last week) replaces his/her engine with a brand new one from Porsche.

when did the intermediate shaft change

Replace i do recall

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I do recall that when I found out mine was replaced it made me feel very confident about my purchase of this car.

when did the intermediate shaft change

Replace strengh, the bolts are chnaged

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there are no bolts to change for strengh, the bolts are chnaged for oil leaks

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

In my search for a 996, I find myself vascilating between the excellent value that the 1999 MY cars offer, and the potential added security of a later car. I want to stick with the 3.4 litre cars, since I prefer the headlights, and can't *afford* the premium the facelift cars demand. So, I guess my question is, when did the intermediate shaft sprocket get upgraded? I know it's not a huge failure item, but in my head that might make the decision easier. For instance there's a couple of 2001 models on cars.com which I'd like to stretch to, but I want to know if I'm getting anything substantially more for my money. Thanks

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

OK - so what did change between 99 and 01? Anything?

POST 4Original post

the timing chain setup when they went to vario cam plus

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

They went to variocam plus before 2002? Sorry for the newbie questions - I've been air cooled for the last ten years.

POST 6Original post

I have a 2004 which broke and wiped out the engine in late 2003. I was told by the dealer that the BOLTS holding the assembly in place were too small and fail. The dealers try to replace them (upgrade) any time they can during other work like RMS, Clutch, etc. You might want to just find a car you like and see if the records indicate the IMS update at any point. eric

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

A 2004 that broke in 2003. Was it like brand new, or is there a typo? I'm looking at a 2002 model right now. 40somethingK miles. If the price works for me then I'm stretching to the 3.6 litre car. I'd hoped to get the upgraded IMS, but it sounds like I won't.

POST 8Original post

My car was sold in Sept of 03 and had 6000 miles when failed. Complete engine replaced by Porsche.

POST 9Original post

no the plus cars came out in 02 there are no bolts to change for strengh, the bolts are chnaged for oil leaks the entire support was redesigned in 05-06

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

OK - so as I think I understand it, the 3.4 litre engines are all the same, with the possible exception of an RMS evolution. No mechanical diffferences. The 3.6 litre cars have variocam, which changed the configuration of the timing chains (and tensioner system?) but otherwise, the same IMS mounting system and the same sprocket design? In the 997 series, the IMS was redesigned. Have I got that right? thanks

POST 11Original post

no sir but your close, early 997/987s still have the old style ims

POST 12Original post

3,6 Engines keep failing too. I know of a 2003 996 3,6 with only 40k miles that failed last week due to IMS bolt breaking, and causing a real mess inside. I find this TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE for Porsche engines.

POST 13Original post

Quotes source post: 4019362

Variocam Plus did not start until the Mk II cars ('02 in the US).

POST 15Original post

Quotes source post: 4020514

99firehawk, There's been extensive discussion on this and other sites about IMS failure on 986/987/996/997 engines. Suppose stv951's acquaintance (who just lost a 996 3.6 engine last week) replaces his/her engine with a brand new one from Porsche. Will it have the identical IMS design of the original engine, or will it have a redesigned IMS? Thanks.

POST 16Original post

My understanding is that ALL warranty replaced engines are REBUILT units NOT new. Therefore, they DO have the upgrade to the IMS. That is what I was told on this board but I cannot remember where I saw it. I do recall that when I found out mine was replaced it made me feel very confident about my purchase of this car. I do not baby it, and I have a ton of racing experience with two west coast driving championships in GT4 not to mention my NASCAR bumpin bangin and traden paint experience. eric

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