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I just checked Tirerack.com and didn't see them on there.
I'm sorry but I need to ask before the winter hits
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Just want to let everyone know that I decided to go with the Nokian's on 17" turbo twists for the winter and had them installed today (I know its early but i had some free time which is rare).
I'm sorry but I need to ask before the winter hits
Run blizzak's
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I am running Blizzak's on mine right now, and they make the car very capable in winter conditions.
I'm sorry but I need to ask before the winter hits
Use c4s 10 times
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I'm sorry but I need to ask before the winter hits
Use car as my daily driver and therefore expect
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I use the car as my daily driver and therefore expect to run her in the winter, once the streets are plowed of course, so she will see time in slush, rain, cold and light snow.
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Install today (i know its early
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Just want to let everyone know that I decided to go with the Nokian's on 17" turbo twists for the winter and had them installed today (I know its early but i had some free time which is rare).
I'm sorry but I need to ask before the winter hits
Use car as my daily driver and therefore expect
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I use the car as my daily driver and therefore expect to run her in the winter, once the streets are plowed of course, so she will see time in slush, rain, cold and light snow.
I'm sorry but I need to ask before the winter hits
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I am of the belief that cars are meant to be driven, not stored away in a garage only for sunny days. Where is the fun in that! Anyway, after spending hours at various tire shops, web sites, and of course this forums, I have come to the realization that driving summer tires in the northeast during the winter is not just stupid but its also flat out suicidal.
Now before you all go scolding me about this tire is better than that tire or summers are just fine for the winter or heh why not just go with all seasons, i have one hopefully simple question but before i get to it, let me give you the spec's
I drive an '02 C4 cab, that i picked up almost 6 months ago. I drive it hard and fast on the highways but tend to take it easy around town due to all the kids in the neighborhood's although i have been known to really lean on her into turns once in a while. I use the car as my daily driver and therefore expect to run her in the winter, once the streets are plowed of course, so she will see time in slush, rain, cold and light snow.
With all of that said, for the winter season, I am considering dropping down from my current 18" setup to a set of 17" turbo twists with Nokian tires.
FINALLY, the question: Has anybody ever put Nokian's on their pcar?
Good decision on driving in the winter. I drive mine with winter/snows on all 4 wheels even though I drive a C2. I have had many sets of Nokian tires, but on Saabs and Audis, not on my Porsche. I'd think you'd be very happy with them on 17" wheels. I have 17" on mine.
I had Nokians on a rear-drive 1994 BMW 530i with a 3.0 32-valve V-8. The Nokians were fantastic and my favorite winter tire for the kind of winters Montreal has. Better than a series of Pirellis I tried and the Michelins I tried on a different car.
I share your opinion that cars (especially these cars) are meant to be driven year round.
This will be my first winter season driving my 03 C2 coupe in the winter.
I will be using my stock 18 inch wheels (summer tires are on my victor innsbruck wheels) and I am looking at the bridgestone LM 60s winter performance tires.
they are rated very high and Tirerack has them in stock in 18.
As someone who has lived in Michigan and various extremely snowy areas in Europe, Nokians are the only winter tire I use. We have them on both our winter SUVs. I don't drive my cab in the winter here, but if I did no doubt I'd use Nokians. If you are looking for an inexpensive or long-life tire, look elsewhere. But if you literally want to stick to the road, they are a great choice.
If they made Nokians that would fit my C4S winter wheels, I'd buy them! I am running Blizzak's on mine right now, and they make the car very capable in winter conditions.
i would like to hear more peoples experience here, as i am in the same situation. i believe a dedicated winter set of wheels is the way to go. as far as tires - well you know there are many thoughts. i have attached the factory recommendations for reference.
Good luck finding any winter tires that will fit Porsche 18" rims. I spent countless hours searching and the closest i could come were a set of Blizzak's but the rolling diameter was different and I'm not about to mess with the AWD or PSM systems as a result. My only real option was to pick up a set of 17" wheels and then of course, there are plenty of winter tires to choose from, be it Pirelli's or Nokian's, etc.
Right now i am leaning towards getting the Nokian's on 17" turbo twists. If you guys can find something to fit on 18" wheels, please speak up. Rear rims are 10"
225/40/18 265/35/18 diameter same as stock....works perfectly well....no need to go down to 17's unless you want to save a few bucks or already have 17's
Well gosh you fellas got the tire thing pretty well dialed in.....sooo what are your contingency plans for black ice, salted roads and that idiot behind you without snow tires sliding into you like you're home plate ?
Not sure what you're driving but my current summer tires are 225/40/18 in the front and 285/30/18 in the rear. I looked into getting 265/335/18 but the rolling diameter is different and i don't want to mess around with my AWD or PSM systems.
I've changed to my 17" Twist replicas and Pirelli winter sport tires for the past 4 winters. This winter, I will be getting all season tires and selling my winter wheels. I only put about 2k miles a year on the car, and don't track it, and changing wheels kills my back!
Another perspective for you!
I have Nokians on my Touareg, and they are awesome. Never tried them on the Porsche, but I do drop from 18's to 17's in the winter. I use Vredstein's at the moment on my C4. I've probably never driven a better handling winter car.... you'll love it, whatever tires you choose.
Sour puss....the best driving comes in the snow. It really keeps you on your toes. I have Pirelli 240's on 18's. I would love to FLA driving year round though.
225/40/18 diameter 25.08
285/30/18 diameter 24.73 1.4% difference
265/35/18 diameter 25.30 .87% difference
as you can see the 265 is closer to the 225's than the 285 you are using....it will not effect your abs/psm/awd etc ...its a very common combo
If you are driving only on snow, the studless tyre will work ok.
For icy roads, I would choose this tyre or similar
studded tyre
If you are allowed to use studded tyres on publicroad's?
Lots of different perspectives...
Up to last year I've never used my C4S in winter but decided to give it a try.
Well it handles great with the right snow tires, it's really not an issue at all as long as there's no snow "banks" crossing intersections or snow higher than 3" high... or your car will turn into a snow plow.
Also most of the time it's not nice white fluffy snow but nasty slush or salt saturated substance not to mention the enormous amounts of tiny gravel...
After going over mainly dry roads my P. car was covert in this white powdery substance, did the taste test (hey I'm a guy, what ya expect
) and wouldn't ya know it...salt!!!
Yep in every surface, seam and junction SALT
After that came the stone chips and exposure extremes of going from a garage temp of +15 Celsius to -35.... in 2 seconds flat!
Needles to say I only used my C4S 10 times.. maybe.
So can a 911 be a winter car?... yes
Is it capable?... yes.
Is it fun in fluffy snow?... hell yes!
Should you ?...
I'm taking the Benz instead.
The first link is sickening. I don't think many would go this fast on mountain roads but it's just how boys play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHXsndBWj3Y&NR=1
This ones for the wife
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy7cMZe1JAk
As you can see from videos that pac996 posted about the turbo, porsche awd system is useles in these condition's at low speed.
Nothing but extra weight
if you want to go with the Blizzak's or for that matter any tire to fit on your 18" rims, you likely need to downsize to:
225/40/18 for the front
265/35/18 for the rear
They should have those in stock at tire rack
If you currently run 285/30/18s on the back then 265/35/18 is the correct tire size for you, unless your rear wheels are 11 inches wide. Don't worry about raising profile, the 265 offsets any of that increase. If 11 inches wide, 265/35/18s will not work.
Just want to let everyone know that I decided to go with the Nokian's on 17" turbo twists for the winter and had them installed today (I know its early but i had some free time which is rare).
Putting aside traction for the moment, the ride is unbelievable smooth. I never thought i woudl actually feel the difference between the summer tires and the nokians when i am driving but it is night and day as it relates to how smooth the ride is. It absorbs so much, an incredible difference for those who were wondering themselves.
I'll update again once the snow hits and i get to take her out for some fun.
Just be careful when it comes to stopping. The difference between the stopping capabilities of Summer and Snow tires is incredible. That tight exit on the Merritt that you're used to taking at high speeds should probably be taken a liiiiiiiiiitttlle bit more slowly since it's going to take you a bit longer to stop.
-Eric
