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Clamshell and Top Not Working After Replacing Hydraulic Cylinders (2004 C4S)

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YOUR RESEARCHClamshell and Top Not Working After Replacing Hydraulic Cylinders (2004 C4S)

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I used the manual open/close key to test the clamshell, and it moves open and closed manually, but doesn't latch completely closed.

Clamshell and Top Not Working After Replacing Hydraulic Cylinders (2004 C4S)
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Set clamshell motor

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No luck setting the clamshell motor to 6.2 ohms as the video described.

Clamshell and Top Not Working After Replacing Hydraulic Cylinders (2004 C4S)
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No luck setting the clamshell motor to 6.2 ohms as the video described.

Clamshell and Top Not Working After Replacing Hydraulic Cylinders (2004 C4S)

Test clamshell, and it moves open and closed manually

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I used the manual open/close key to test the clamshell, and it moves open and closed manually, but doesn't latch completely closed.

Clamshell and Top Not Working After Replacing Hydraulic Cylinders (2004 C4S)
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Set clamshell motor

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No luck setting the clamshell motor to 6.2 ohms as the video described.

Clamshell and Top Not Working After Replacing Hydraulic Cylinders (2004 C4S)

Test clamshell, and it moves open and closed manually

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I used the manual open/close key to test the clamshell, and it moves open and closed manually, but doesn't latch completely closed.

Clamshell and Top Not Working After Replacing Hydraulic Cylinders (2004 C4S)

Use manual open/close key

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I used the manual open/close key to test the clamshell, and it moves open and closed manually, but doesn't latch completely closed.

Clamshell and Top Not Working After Replacing Hydraulic Cylinders (2004 C4S)
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

2004 C4S. I had my convertible hydraulic cylinders rebuilt last week and installed them back in the car last night. The car has been sitting in the service position for a couple of weeks while waiting for the parts to come back. The installation went fine, but when testing the top functionality, the soft top closed and latched, the clamshell moved back to within about 1 inch of closing, and that's it. Everything is now stuck, and nothing moves in either direction. I hear a clicking noise when pressing the buttons to raise/lower the top. I found a FB post with the same issue from 2 years ago and have reached out to them, but have not heard back. I used the manual open/close key to test the clamshell, and it moves open and closed manually, but doesn't latch completely closed. Unfortunately, I guess things need to be resynchronized now, but I just don't understand what happened or whether a resync is all that is needed. I found a video that seems like it would resynchronize the clamshell, which is also linked below. Can anyone give me suggestions on where to start with troubleshooting this? Thanks! FB post with same issue - https://www.facebook.com/groups/4488...1527114661779/ Link to album of photos and a video - https://photos.app.goo.gl/gQnKGcoyq1WSNDaj6 YT video to resynch the clamshell - You Tube

POST 2Original post

I would make sure you hooked the potentiometer to the Hydraulic Cylinder Stud correctly on the drivers side.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks. I'll check that. I was looking around for that last night, but couldn't find it or a clear shot of it online to reference.

POST 4Original post

Like John said , there is a Position Sensor on the left side drivers side hydraulics that has to be hooked back up... Very easy to forget to hook this back up . ( I did it one time ) If that is not the issue I would suggest getting the $75 PIWIS Tester to look for codes and also to activate drive-links....The PIWIS is a MUST HAVE to troubleshoot some things..

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

To update - The potentiometer was not connected correctly, so fixing that got the top and clamshell at least trying to move again. The top unlatches and starts to move back, but the clamshell isn't moving yet, so the top stops. I assume I am looking at a synchronization issue now, since I manually moved the clamshell. I am going to try that method in the video I linked and see where I get. Thanks for the suggestions.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'll also look into a PIWIS Tester. From my quick reading, it seems there are a variety of options out there. Thanks.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

No luck setting the clamshell motor to 6.2 ohms as the video described. With the clamshell all the way open, I was able to open the top halfway before it stopped. It then closed again with a series of button presses, but eventually it stopped closing and slowly fell into an open position. The clamshell is not moving at all. I guess I need a PIWIS tester and some research to figure out what to do with the tester.

POST 8Original post

After you have manually activated the clamshell, you have to remove the clamshell motor, resynch it to the computer and do a calibration with a scanner. You don't need a PIWIS but you need a scanner that can do calibration. My Durametric works. The 6.2 value is not 6.2 ohms, it is 6.2 KOhms between the two correct wires.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

To update, ended up taking it to a shop to have everything recalibrated. All working again after $338 spent. Thanks for all the replies.

POST 10Original post

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$338?! Where can I go for that? It costs me at least $1K every time I have to have something done to my rag top.

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