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YOUR RESEARCHTrack Test of Stock Porsche Carrera Wing
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I believe that the motorsport GT3 wing is designed to be installed on the GT3 front spoiler that is supposed to be used with the GT3 rear wing.
Install stock carrera rear wing and the front lip spoiler
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As many of you know, I installed the stock Carrera rear wing and the front lip spoiler on my Targa in order to gain a little stability at triple digit speeds on the track.
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I believe that the motorsport GT3 wing is designed to be installed on the GT3 front spoiler that is supposed to be used with the GT3 rear wing.
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It was most likely the little lip that did the trick.
Install stock carrera rear wing and the front lip spoiler
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As many of you know, I installed the stock Carrera rear wing and the front lip spoiler on my Targa in order to gain a little stability at triple digit speeds on the track.
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It was most likely the little lip that did the trick.
As many of you know, I installed the stock Carrera rear wing and the front lip spoiler on my Targa in order to gain a little stability at triple digit speeds on the track. Before the wing, I felt like the car became a little "light," but not unstable, at speeds above 110. I had the car on the track at Watkins Glen for the first time since installing the wing. By the end of the weekend, I was hitting speeds of approximately 125-135 at the end of the back straight right before the bus stop (I would look and see 125 before I got too close to the braking zone, but then I would focus again on the job at hand so I am not certain how much above 125 I actually hit). I am happy to say that the car felt much more planted. As with all mods, there is a chance that part of this is psychological, but I honestly felt like the wing did its job, and did it well. Unnecessary for the street because you can't tell a difference until you hit triple digits (unless you are buying for aesthetic reasons), a nice, but not crucial, upgrade for the track. I don't regret my decision. At the risk of being called a picture *****, here are the pics of the wing and lip for anyone who might have missed it.
I really like the wing
The Misha GT2 is a bit extreme for my car (due to colour and usage - i.e. not a race car) and the aerokit one is not really to my taste
where did you get it and huch much to paint/get it fitted?
It's always nice when a mod works out. I don't think you are imagining the improvement but you are probably giving the wrong end credit. The 996 gets light at speed because of air going under the car. It was most likely the little lip that did the trick. I know this because we hit 155 on our front straight and my 99 would get way light. Adding just a front spoiler dramatically improved it. Adding the wing later didn't really have much impact.
It looks great though.
Jim
TD, the wing looks great on your targa,..the lines go together well. Great to hear it's functional as well. You are really getting into this DE thing, that's a lot of events you are doing. I've only got 9-10 planned for this year
. Do you have any mid-ohio events for the remainder of this year, I think I have 4 more planned for M-O. Have you purchased the track 944 yet,..
Jeeva
P-Car Fanatic and redduck 996: Thanks. The rear wing is an exact OEM carrera wing replica that I purchased from MASHAW for approx $1000. I purchased the matching front lip (which fits on +02 cars only) directly from Porsche for $50 (In order to get the equivalent rear wing + front lip from Porsche would cost $2,700). I had it painted and installed for $500.
JimB: Thanks for the confirmation. I always viewed the two as a combination, but you may be right about the front. In any event, the car felt absolutely fantastic.
Jeeva: Thanks. I have fit in about 19 days this year already, and I plan to run the remaining Potomac events plus the NNJR VIR event if I get in. I am addicted, and I return back to Watkins Glen next weekend already. I left my car there. And yes, I bought the 944. After next weekend, my 996 will be retired from the track, and the 944 will make its debut at Shenandoah . . . I can't wait!
Thanks!
It is an aftermarket exact replica of the OEM Carrera wing. The wing is fixed and does not move or adjust in any way (you remove the entire stock spoiler with motor when you install the Carrera wing).
O.K, now I can breath a little bit better
I don't want you to be too far ahead of me with all this extra seat time, But, I will be doing around ~ 21 days total for this year,..not too far off. But, again with your 944 I don't have to worry about it after all
I have so much to learn that I don't think anyone has anything to worry about me for a long time. But . . . keep in mind that I will be focusing on momentum driving and car control in the '944 . . . there was a reason why I decided to lose over half of my horses. Someday, you will need to be afraid, very afraid. Until then, I will be exercising my point-by signal
who needs a 944 to learn momentum driving? i keep hearing that the 996 is underpowered anyway (just talk to the TT and gt3 owners). :P your 996 is already a momentum car.
In that case, just wait till I start passing some of you while I am in the '44. Don't think I won't let that go by without comment. Think about it. I will have the best of both worlds. If someone passes me, I can say "What do you expect, I only have 158 hp?" If I pass someone, I can say "I am clearly a better driver because you have 325 hp!" Be afraid, be really afraid
Yes, the rear wing would work. The front lip would not. The front lip is the only difference between the OEM Carrera Wing kit for early and late model 996s (the front lip snaps into place in the +02 stock front bumpers -- I assume the earlier model bumpers do not have the necessary slots).
OK dude, no excuses from you with that kinda talk
i fully expect underpowered cars to pass me. just this passed weekend i let 914s, 944s and 993s by at buttonwillow on the warm up lap but once the tires were warm, i was in their rear window and they had to let me pass. OK chest beating over, just kidding around
. this all meant nothing since i was in the yellow run group anyway :O
Not according to Porsche, which recommends exactly that for pre 02 996s. That is the benefit of sticking with stock: it has been subjected to Porsche aerodynamic testing.
i'm surprised you didn't try out the porsche motorsport gt3 cup lip. from the underside of the front bumper, it looks like it'll fit nicely. it's nice and flat but you just have to drill some holes. got mine at devek (board sponsor) for 120 or TRG.
Well, I was trying to stick with Porsche recommended matched components. Since they recommended the little lip spoiler with the rear Carrera wing, I stuck with their recommendation. I believe that the motorsport GT3 wing is designed to be installed on the GT3 front spoiler that is supposed to be used with the GT3 rear wing. It may work just fine in other configurations, but I just didn't want to test it for myself. I wanted Porsche to do the work