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Roughly $1.8k for a pair of used clear headlight lens and light upgrades from Adrian.
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Check ebay for them as well if you dont mind them used.
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Edit: If you going to do anything but street driving there are few more important things to change before brakes.
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On that front I'm replacing the suspension and shocks along with both sway bar bushings as soon as I get a replacement wheel lock socket.
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I've ordered a set (F/R) but have not seen a post regarding it (yeah, I could do a search but honestly the forum search function is simply inadequate to me.)
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Is this a worthwhile upgrade from stock? I've ordered a set (F/R) but have not seen a post regarding it (yeah, I could do a search but honestly the forum search function is simply inadequate to me.)
I'm not going to be racing it, perhaps a gymkhana (sp?) or two. But I do want enhanced braking.
Who's done this and what's your opinion. Is it worth the expense?
I am not sure what you mean by "enhanced braking"
Any stock 996 setup can easily lock up the tires. For autocross/gymkhana you don't really need brake capacity, you need consistency and maybe some preference regarding brake travel/grabbiness. If you actually bought ceramics that will probably bump you a class into something incredibly uncompetitive since ceramics were never an option on your car.
Still cool though, which ceramics did you buy? There are a ton of good affordable options right now for $3-5k
What did you order? The C2 never had option 450 that I know of, only the Turbo and C4S. I think the only reasonably priced upgrade for the stock calipers is the Girodisc.
I wanted something that ran cooler than carving up the front fender wheel liners (described in 101 Projects).
Cost is far less that $3k, how about >$400
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My bad. The only issue I have with Parts Geek is the numerous categories parts are listed under. In this case, it's actually listed under 'rotor and break pad kits'
Here is the corrected link
Rotor and Pad kits
Fwiw, what you are looking at are not ceramic rotors. You wont run any cooler. But you may give up braking power which imho I wouldnt sacrifice.
if you are lookingbfor more cooling, get yourself a set of GT3 lower brake ducts. They are cheap and easy and will provide better airflow for brake cooling.
You can also get the GT3 front fender liners which are another great upgrade. Dont waste your time with modifying the 996 front fender liners. You need to seal up the lower air duct in front of the front wheel and remove the rear air duct on the back of the radiators to redirect air flow to get any benefit. Hence just going with the GT3 front fender liners which do this.
However, if you want better braking, then thats another conversation.
@hbdunn
I had a 2002 996 C4S come into the Shop ( Birmingham Porsche ) one time that had the Ceramic Brake Option M450 .... At that time the Rotors were $4k each..... I see now they are about $8k each.....lol
Gray Cast Iron Rotors are $125 each ...
Description of my front rotor purchase.
Power Stop Brake Pad and Rotor Kit - Front
Part Number: 83-02160352
Brand: Power Stop
Notes: Front Genuine Geomet Coated Rotor and Carbon-Fiber Ceramic Brake Pad Kit
This complete kit is engineered to improve the braking performance of the European vehicle you use everyday
Z23 Carbon-Fiber Ceramic compound significantly enhances braking & Genuine Geomet Coated rotors
Brake rotors are fully Geomet coated, to maintain that great look behind open design wheels
OP, you fell for the marketing 'carbon fiber ceramic'...
Braking will not improve over stock but if you're lucky, you won't sense a difference over stock pads (if that's what you had previously). Perhaps you will enjoy less brake dust on the wheels.
The geomet coating is good and will obviously wear away on the rotor surface itself (but so will any surface rust, should it appear after some rainfall). The bells should remain free of rust better than had they been just coated with some zinc spray.
Since you've already bought them, please report back your direct experience after 200 miles of driving & braking.
And brake pads chosen to suit the need.
OP is getting coated cast iron rotors plus ceramic pads, $220 all in. I would wager that the braking effectiveness will be less than stock. But less dust, yay.
Here you go.
996 GT3 Front Fender Liners
Left 996-504-223-91
Right 996-504-224-92
996 GT3 Front Upper Brake Ducts
Left 996-575-231-30
Right 996-575-232-30
You have to work pretty hard to find them, but you can. Just like other 996 parts, its a waiting game until they become available by supplier. Check ebay for them as well if you dont mind them used. They are pretty tough rubber.
Ouch. They are still within the 30 day return window. It's a bit concerning to hear some say the braking will be degraded. I want better brakes, not sub-optimal.
I'm clueless as to the change to ceramic based pads will work with the stock. So if I continue to receive negative comments on the current planned conversation I'll just return the rotor and pads.
If the pads will work with stock rotors and generate less dust, that's an upside. The only other recommendation was to go with high performance or racing pads to have that effect. I was surprised to find how much dust is accumulated after I bought the car.
Stock pads (textar) are perfectly fine pads.
Used them the first 2 years of owning my car.
That included my first 8 track days. Sebro slotted rotors are what I believe to be the best stock size rotors.
Ceramic pads less dust less performance.
Edit: If you going to do anything but street driving there are few more important things to change before brakes.
I like Textars. They stopped really well for me, and needed grippier tires to take full advantage of their braking performance. They also produced a lot of brake dust.
Ok, I'll just return them. I hear what you're saying though.
On that front I'm replacing the suspension and shocks along with both sway bar bushings as soon as I get a replacement wheel lock socket. Since everything was going to be out for the suspension replacement (from Pelican), the rotors appeared to a good addition without extra labor charges involved in doing it piecemeal.
I put $13k in it to repaint it from the bare metal up. Roughly $1.8k for a pair of used clear headlight lens and light upgrades from Adrian. $1k and change for Fisker. Another $6k for a water pump, low temp thermostat and other incidentals such as the water coolant tank, console parts, oil filter conversion, O2 sensors, wheel bearings, underbody panels, and the shock/suspension replacements.
An engine rebuild and conversion to 4.0L in addition to the Tip and mounts for both are in the next 12 months.
The only thing not on the drawing board are body mods. So I think I have a handle on my priorities
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