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YOUR RESEARCHANYONE using a clear bra?
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I had the clear bra installed by the stealer's "guy" when I bought my car in Boston (Herb Chambers).
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Having said that, I currently live in Portland and would put one on given that we have about 2 months of sunlight a year and very little street cleaning (lots of road debris).
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Use xpel ultimate film and full front end coverage
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On the 996 I used Xpel Ultimate film and FULL front end coverage after I had the front end repainted over the winter, it's pricy but worth it to me, may not be worth it to other folks.
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Having said that, I currently live in Portland and would put one on given that we have about 2 months of sunlight a year and very little street cleaning (lots of road debris).
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Clear bra, changes color over time on light color cars...
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Having said that, I currently live in Portland and would put one on given that we have about 2 months of sunlight a year and very little street cleaning (lots of road debris).
Use xpel ultimate film and full front end coverage
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On the 996 I used Xpel Ultimate film and FULL front end coverage after I had the front end repainted over the winter, it's pricy but worth it to me, may not be worth it to other folks.
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ok Marc. Why not this one if the one on the boxer worked well? Was it already on the boxer when you bought the car? If not, where did you buy the bra from? And don't say 'Victorias Secret'.
I have read (when I searched on this) that the installer is sometimes more important than the material on these types of things.
Currently, I drive mine with full frontal nudity.
This car has a clear bra on the nose, half way up the hood, on the front of the fenders, mirrors and in front of the rear wheels. A quality job like this will probably be around 600-650. At least in Ohio money
I've been pretty happy with mine (difficult or impossible to see in a picture). The material was from Xpel (
http://www.xpel.com/
). I've had it installed for about three years and it still looks very good despite ~10 track days and day driving year round in Boston. I do have one area of damage where a moron parked with their bumper pressed against mine. It caused a bubble in the clear film, but paint looks undamaged. The film does require occasional cleaning and polishing to keep it looking good.
-Shawn
Good God Marc you have a great attitude on this for sure. I am sure they will put everything right for you again. It would have taken one strong bra to hold that damage back.
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I had the clear bra installed by the stealer's "guy" when I bought my car in Boston (Herb Chambers). The product was called "Venture Shield" and it came with a lifetime warranty. I still have the "hang tag." Pix don't show the product too well on a black car. There is a line across the hood (halfway up), covered the front bumper and mirrors. too.
To date, althought the install wasn't the greatest, I love the product/concept. I previously had a black A6and the front end was all chewed up (after 60K miles) with road rash and looked like ****.
On this one, the front end is looking real good despite a mark or two from track "marbles." I would highly recommend it. My .02
I have had VentureShield film on my DD for 5 years now, full bumper, half hood, half fenders, full headlights, and full mirrors, there are only a couple of small chips on the film but it would have gone through the paint without the film.
On the 996 I used Xpel Ultimate film and FULL front end coverage after I had the front end repainted over the winter, it's pricy but worth it to me, may not be worth it to other folks.
And yes installer skill is more important than the film, my installer came highly recommend by my paint shop, I have a hard time convincing folks in local Porsche gatherings that there is a layer of film across the full bumper, hood, fenders and 95% of the mirrors.
Pix don't show the film installed, which is exactly how it should be!!
I'm not a big fan of clear bra myself, mainly because even the good stuff has a bit of an "orange peel" look to it in person. Also, I don't like the lines that inevitably appear as wax and dirt build up along the edges.
For the cost of a good clear bra, you can get the front bumper resprayed every 50k miles or so.
Mine also has a clear bra installed; front bumber, partial hood & front fenders, A-pillars, top of windshield, mirrors and rear wheel flare. Only part that doesn't work great are the mirrors due to too tight a radius. Been on for 5 years now and still looks great.
If I had to do it again... I would just repaint rather than clear bra.... Clear bra, changes color over time on light color cars... You don't see them much on the darker colors, but the bra def discolor after awhile and have to get it removed and put a new one on.... Cheaper to repaint, I think.
I have had a clear bra on 3 of my Porsche's and they have done their job well. All of my clear bra's were custom installed, not template models. My installer also told me to use the purest carnauba that I could find to preserve the clarity of the bra for years to come. I just had a clear bra installed on the entire front of my 964 turbo and it looks great.
Sorry, have to disagree again with the generalized comment, you are correct about color shift but it's only partially correct, 3M did have problems with their earlier film, I had heard it's the adhesive yellowing and I've certainly seen enough examples of that on light color cars over the years.
However I can assure anyone who cares to listen that the 5 year old Ventureshield film on my silver color DD still has not shown any signs of yellowing, still looks and feels very smooth and shiny especially after a claying and waxing/sealing.
3M Scotch brand film still has a faint orangle peel pattern which I disliked when I made the choice to go with Ventureshield film 5 years ago, 3M has since bought Ventureshield and may have made some changes to the formulation, I'm starting to read complaints from people who claim dead bugs have etched into the Ventureshield film surface after a couple of days.
So this time around I decided to go with Xpel Ultimate film, their website
www.xpel.com
will have a lot of useful information about the films, it's been 3 months now since the film installation, I'm still quite happy with the result.
I just saw a 2010 that went thru auction and it had a clear bra that covered the entire hood and both front fenders. Best I ever saw. No lines. You couldn't see it. It was so good several prospective buyers ran paint meters across the front fenders and instead of realizing it had a bra, mistakenly thought the front end had been repainted. Seller thought the dealor had installed it but wasn't sure.
Be sure to cover your headlamps. When I bought my car, it had a clear bra on it and I'm glad it does. I would rather peal off the plastic and put more on than repaint my car. Each to their own; praise God we have choices.
That's how I had my car done, custom job and worth it.
It's not 100% perfect to my picky eyes, however it is certainly 99.99%, it's even very tough to tell any difference from the film covered fender beside the door not covered with film. I need to post pix in my "winter make-over" thread after the film is applied, just haven't had the time yet.
Post #18 and #19 of this thread
https://rennlist.com/forums/concours-and-car-care/673138-paint-protection-films.html
provides some very good first hand info on these films.
I have experience with the clear bras across many different cars having managed a body shop at one point. The bras do an amazing job repelling debris. The only caveat I've seen is that bras left on for years in lots of sunlight will cause the covered and uncovered paint to fade differently. It is most noticeable with brighter colors like reds, blues, greens, yellow...It is possible to aggressively polish the hard line that appears - it just depends on the amount of clear that is left so that there is no paint popping through. 911's & Z3/Z4's showed the most contrast between the covered and uncovered portion. Having said that, I currently live in Portland and would put one on given that we have about 2 months of sunlight a year and very little street cleaning (lots of road debris).
Thats what I expected. I wont be using one. Just have to grin and bare it as they say. Put it down to the joys of motoring or the pitfalls of motoring.
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