P-cars vs. Sup'd up cars

You guys are probably sick of my poll-type questions, but I love them so... here we go: I assume you guys have experienced a lot of ppl trying to measure up their tuned up cars with your P-car... tell me the truth here: have you ever come out of a "duel" non victorious? I want to hear funny stories about the 600hp honda civic & likes and all that fun stuff ! Cheers

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It all depends on the mods, but anyone who frequents a drag strip and follows NHRA knows that souped up Honda, Camero or Corvette can kick the butt of a Porsche in a straight line any day - not really a good contest.

You know, I think we're all getting sick of your poll-type questions. ha. Ok, how about against Mercedes? You know the ones that think they own the road? I had two guys in a black Mercedes V8 Convertible with some kind of tuner badges jump in front of me from the freeway on-ramp. The freeway was basically empty, but he insisted on trying to cut all the way to the fast lane. Well, I was on my way to a meeting, and I lived in Germany for a while, so of course the left lane belongs to me. He stuck with me for a while, until he started to drift into the rearview mirror. As I also slowed and glanced back, I could see the pasenger was trying to grab all kinds of documents flying out of his car.

I've had an F-150 Lightning try racing me... I was minding my own business on a quiet stretch of freeway. He came up behind me at high speed and sat on my bumper for a while. He then pulled up along side me and did the back and forth routine baiting for a race. I ignored him, so he revved his engine and set off at high speed. I wonder if he was embarrassed when he realized that I didn't take the bait and he was just left playing with himself.

This weekend I almost got spanked and squashed by an ignorant rap superstar in a new rover SUV. 10fwy in Ontario. We were rolling side by side in fairly heavy traffic when she immediately changed lanes literally on top of me. She looked at me as I honked but she kept on coming.... I say 'almost' because I was able to swerve to the right and get far away from the ignoramous!

We have lots of people in Tampa, FL try to mess with us as we drive to and from places. If I have the room sure I go for it but I know for now my C4 is stock so it can only do so much. I actually had a 996 C2 try to race me in my 01 Audi S4. That was interesting. I destroyed him 5 times but he kept coming back for more. I guess he didn't know what the car was not to mention all the mods I had. I use my C4 for just cruising around and my S4 is my “fast” car(for now).

Chevy C6... Of the line owned him twice... Roling start 996 does not stand a chance... E46 M3's.... Poor M3's AA Supercharged E46 325... Best Race... very close, owned him... Nissan S13 BT... Owned Him Suzuki 750 GSX-R did not stand a chance on the freeway Ramdom VW's and Audi's... PWONAGE Stage 2 Subaru STI... 1/4 mile ownage and Stage 3 highway ownage... Ford Mustang GT, Owned of teh Line...

any year m3 wasted........ wrx sti, joke superbikes, they wimp out over 125 corvettes, newer scary fast but watch out they don't know how to keep a line... Bell jet Ranger, wasted past 150. Friends gallardo, hard to beat, never have, but easy to keep up with. Also, he shifts way too early. probably my only chance, but hey at 160 anything is hard to pass...... most american cars, not a chance 360 spyder on highway, dead even.......

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always wanted to give that a try

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Never underestimate them Wayne, mine had 430 hp and 550 ft/lbs. It could do a high 12 in the 1/4. It only cost me $200 for the belt and pulley for the S/C to achieve those #'s. I actually miss that truck, they actually handle well for a 4700lb beast. .87 skidpad stock, mine was dropped.

S4 - gradually drove away from it. Audi TT - demolished it. Dodge Challenger SRT - dead even from the line... early 993 - drove away from it. But as we all know, our cars aren't drag cars, from 80 on we do pretty well.

I don't even bother. Unless your in a TT there isn't any point. Even the 997 S is slow compared to the newer cars out now. With the new Evo 10's and Subaru WRX Sti we can't even say we have a faster track car, that even including the 997S. Funny thing is that the plain Porsche Cayman is faster around Top Gears test track then all of the na 911's with the exception of the GT3's

I have only "dueled" at Autocross and the local race circuit. At autocross, I usually end up with FTD on street tires. At the race circuit, it's always been HPDEs, so there's no timing, but I've never been passed... mind you I haven't run in the same group as the Ford GT, "built" Camaro, or a couple of other high HP cars that come out. As for straight lines racing on the street, I don't agree with it for my own safety, or the silliness of just stepping on the gas to see who's faster IMHO. I just ignore them and they probably think I'm a snob for it . I do get a kick out of it when their buddy or gf are admiring my car while they're trying to show me "who's the man."

Quickly turned right onto a quiet local road a couple of weeks ago in my 996 C2 to get ahead of the A4 that was turning from the other side. As I briskly took off into the distance I discovered in quick succession that my mirror was full of A4, that it was faster than me, and that the little badge on the nose said RS4... He was cool about it, and we had a little fun in the 75-90 range for a few miles, then chatted for a moment when we came to a stop sign alongside each other. The lesson from this is to pay closer attention to inconspicuous sedans...

Road and Track or Car and Driver - or one of those "big" magazines, had a "tuner car showdown" a few years ago. They had all sorts of heavily modded cars - showcase cars from various big named tuners - and brought them to a racetrack to see who had the fastest one. They were STi's, Evos, S2000's, etc, etc and had upward of 400-450 hp, with suspensions, racing tires, carbon fiber this and that - every ricer's wet dream. So anyway, they spent the day testing the cars in various categories, and got lap times for all of them around some big race track that they commonly use for testing their other cars, and arrived at the winner. Well, it turned out that they also happened to have a brand new C6 vette- fully stock- at the track that same day for a seperate story they were doing on the new model vettes that were coming out that year. They took the vette out on the track and promptly destroyed all of the tuner cars times, beating the fastest one by something like 5 seconds around that track.

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You're so mature.. lol!

I only like to drag race in heavily modified V8s. There, the challenge is controlling 500-800 ft/lbs of torque trying to twist a chassis into a pretzel, shifting gears and controlling a beast. P-cars and others in their class are too calm and controled to be interesting. In the P-car, I like driving on familiar, curvy roads showing those who challenge me what modern design is capable of. The average sports car owner has no idea what their cars are capable of and though they may have HP advantages, they rarely keep pace at modest 7/10th pace. Irresponsible of me? Probably, but at age 42 and no accidents I tend to believe I have reasonable judgement to know when it is prudent and not. It not like I go out looking for a race but on the rare occassion when someone nudges me...

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Dude we need to hang out when I'm down in Dallas +1 they are monsters I love the 993 bait, it's really the one thing they can't rationalize I've driven the 08 a few weeks ago and was just startled. people talk a lot of trash about the vette, but those things are bananas, and 6K of s/c and 2K of suspension = enzo fighter if you believe any of GM's ZR-1 info. They did post a sub-gtr 'ring time, so maybe hold off judgment until someone validates

I usually steer away from the temptation. A few years ago when I had my 2006 vette, if a kid in a his Mitsubishi evo or Subaru WRX pulled up, I'd drop the hammer and go. Now, my car is neither a Turbo or even an "S" for that matter and IMHO its more of a drivers car and not really a race car. Besides - I'm fairly confident that my fairly bare bones MK1 car can't take some of these tuners and I'm not sure I could handle that defeat. So I usually just glance over at them, shake my head in disgust and act as if I cant be bothered

I'm actually a little oblivious to the tuner cars, but I've increasingly noticed them trying to get my attention, talking to me at west side highway stoplights, cutting me of by inches for no reason, following me too closely. I don't get the mentality, honestly, of trying to do this stuff on dense urban highways and streets. Too old to go to jail for street racing man If there is a drag car in the arsenal here it's the MB

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+1 Exact same thoughts I was going to write. The C6 is a very fast car and I have no doubt it's much faster than my current na C2. However for Sunday cruising on the backroads the 996 is more fun. I've seen some fast tuner cars and if I were to lose to one I'd have to buy a TT and get even (which I can't afford at the moment).

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Cant afford it either Insanity Later!!

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Oh I know, I've seen the specs on it and I wasn't going near that challenge. No, I just don't street race - street racing is immature and dangerous.

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I am lucky to be alive, I spent my high school career every Friday drag racing on the streets. In a convertible of all things. Not anymore. I've grown up.

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you hung tight w/a Modena and a Gallardo????

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Cory, you said it right - street racing is something that teenagers do and then you grow up. I get my kicks going to a venues dedicated to speed rather than taking it to the road where I and others can get killed by less able drivers.

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And that is is what I love about my Audi S4 BI-Turbo. No one notices it. I don't race anymore on the streets either. I did a lot of that when I was younger like many of you. I won't lie though, if the right situation presents itself I am sure I would jump.

I drive fast on the hiways when I can, but I won't race. People are nuts. And incompetent. And stupid. At least that's what I have to believe to stay alive.

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yup, I put my foot down for maybe a quarter mile at a time, then ease off. I never race. It's not worth it... plus to be honest, the traffic around here (and low skill level) means that if you do race you're going to get yourself killed.

[QUOTE=htny;5662902]Dude we need to hang out when I'm down in Dallas I'm happy to meet with any of you, but no morning stuff...... I get up around 11 am.......

Also, helicopter, true story, fyling sideways trying to film me, it was cool. Yes i'm a dumbass

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Last time I was in dallas, after a late night at the. Candle room, I think we woke up at 4PM haha But I will get up anytime of the day to race a helicopter [QUOTE=dallasboats;5665642]

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I used to have a "modded" B5 S4, it was an awesom sleeper! I'm usually wont take any bait when in my 996 but when driving a C6 Z06 I must admit I like to spank some of these guys

The average sports car owner has no idea what their cars are capable of and though they may have HP advantages, they rarely keep pace at modest 7/10th pace. Irresponsible of me? Probably, but at age 42 and no accidents I tend to believe I have reasonable judgement to know when it is prudent and not. It's true that reasonable judgement could be the reason for not having an accident, but another factor to consider is luck. I'm a lot older than you and I too haven't had any accidents, and when I was younger I attributed my good driving record to skill and judgement. As I've gotten older I now have concluded that there was also a great deal of luck involved in my acident avoidance.

Bottom line is no matter who tries to line up against me and race, I have already won. Because I have the car with the nostalgia, the PORSCHE 911, the european race car, made for the street, that drives with panache of a rear engine design. As I defer from the race, I smile and embrace the piece of history that is all mine. Jay

Brilliantly said!! Pete

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Until a F430 pulls up.

^touche!

I was driving along the highway in the right hand lane when this vette comes onto my bumper, I ignored him, but he still kept on my tail. The vette finally gives up this annoying action, but when I am about to pull off this long off ramp, he suddenly swerves back behind me. I downshifted into 3rd and zoom, he soon was a speck in my mirror. Really don't know what he was thinking. Even in a non-flashed turbo, I think it would have been no contest, but in a flashed turbo- bbye.