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YOUR RESEARCHJack stand under the wheels and not the jackpoints
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car slipping off a conventional jack stand
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It was caused by his car slipping off a conventional jack stand.
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Jack stand under the wheels and not the jackpoints
Clean bottom and look
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Once you have one you will be jacking it just to clean the bottom and look for things to work on/learn about.
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Replace jack
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The OTC set isn't going to work because one has to replace the jack with the jackstand at the jackpoint.
Jack stand under the wheels and not the jackpoints
Set about diy
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Had I known of this set up, before I decided to set about DIY on the car a year ago, I would have defo gone for this set up especially at that price.
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Use cinder blocks
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The cinder block thing you describe is not the way to go, jack stands are not expensive and they are safe, I would not get under a car using cinder blocks to support it they aren't designed for this, you don't know the engineering criteria for them and I seriously doubt that they were designed to support a car.
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Use floor jack until the front is far enough up
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Go to renntech.org they have a full description of how to for this procedure it is easy to do, basically you jack the car from the rear jack point using a floor jack until the front is far enough up to get the stand under, lower that side go to the other side and do the same thing, now that you have the front done go to rear and as stated before there is a jack point on the bottom of the engine, it is foreward of the exaust dead center and is a small square casting on the bottom of the engine place the floor jack carefully there so that you are not putting pressure on anything else and just lift the rear up and place your stands under the lift points, it seems a bit strange when you do the f
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I'd like to be able to do some maintenance on my 996 but most of the tasks require working from the bottom.
Getting conventional jack stands underneath at the jack points requires jacking at some point other than the jack point.
I'm looking for a jack stand that has a "U" shape that would "cup" the wheel/tire so that you jack the car up and slip the aforedescribed jack stands under the wheels.
Does such an animal exist or do you just have to make the 4 of them out of wood & cinder block?
Go to renntech.org they have a full description of how to for this procedure it is easy to do, basically you jack the car from the rear jack point using a floor jack until the front is far enough up to get the stand under, lower that side go to the other side and do the same thing, now that you have the front done go to rear and as stated before there is a jack point on the bottom of the engine, it is foreward of the exaust dead center and is a small square casting on the bottom of the engine place the floor jack carefully there so that you are not putting pressure on anything else and just lift the rear up and place your stands under the lift points, it seems a bit strange when you do the front for the first time, but I've done this lots and never had a problem.
good luck
I've heard that people have issues rupturing their engine mounts when jacking up the rear from the engine. Just make sure your comfortable with this before using it.
That probably means they needed new engine mounts. The mounts are designed to easily hold the weight of the rear end of the car.
Think about how much force gets applied to them in hard driving versus lifting the car in your garage.
As to the original question, you could just buy 4 of the drive on ramps, jack up the car and slide them under the tires.
I bought OTC 1532 racing jack and 2 OTC 1582 stands via Amazon. That worked for me. Both can be seen on this page...
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&key...l_60ijre1wyn_b
Yes certainly seems to be the way to go if you are a handy guy at DIY work and have a large enough wide garage. It would pay for itself on the first decent sized DIY job on the car. Not for the normal sized garages. More on the industrial lines. Costco have it for $2300..
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...atchallpartial
I have a smallish garage 21' wide 8' high. I got this for ~$1650 in a group buy in 2010. I like it because once you have drilled the holes and placed the concrete inserts you can set it up in ~15 minutes and take it down and roll it into the corner to store it.
Once you have one you will be jacking it just to clean the bottom and look for things to work on/learn about.
Man that is some sweet set up you have there. I can't justify it for the work I have done so far on my car, but my god what a great thing to have. Had I known of this set up, before I decided to set about DIY on the car a year ago, I would have defo gone for this set up especially at that price. That would have cut my work time down tremendously, Not to mention no body pains from cramping down low working on brake pads and bleeding and oil changes. I believe that the fuel filter for the 99 job is in the middle under the car. A job which could be done easily with that set up. Then theres the plug change and muffler removal. All easy stuff if you can get to them. You got me thinking hard now.
The self loading jack dolly doesn't appear to elevate the car. I need to be able to get underneath to work on it, not slide it around a garage.
The jackpoint jackstands are nice but overpriced.
The OTC set isn't going to work because one has to replace the jack with the jackstand at the jackpoint.
MaxJax relies on holes in concrete which I don't trust the stability of.
My plan is to cement cinder blocks stacked vertically together. On the top I'll cement a brick on both ends. I'll jack up one side and slide the cinder block stack under the wheel with one brick in front of the wheel and the other brick behind the wheel just in case of movement. Then repeat the same for the other side. Total cost of jacks and materials not much over $50 and a stable solution.
You're over thinking it
Check the thread here
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...on-jackstands/
If you don't like jacking the engine, you can also jack the rear cross memeber close to where the engine and transmission meet. I can confirm the OTC jack can reach that if your car is not lowered.
With all respect Mr Quickie, you have been shown 2wice now how to jack the car up using a tried and true method, it is safe! The cinder block thing you describe is not the way to go, jack stands are not expensive and they are safe, I would not get under a car using cinder blocks to support it they aren't designed for this, you don't know the engineering criteria for them and I seriously doubt that they were designed to support a car. If you feel uneasy doing the procedure that has been described to you, take it to a professional and let them do the job, safer for the car and more importantly for you.
http://www.ncangler.com/forums/threa...-As-Jackstands
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http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=139763
Just a couple of examples of why one should not be using cinder blocks. Think about it, cinder blocks are in contact with each other through ALL of its contact surface which is filled with mortar, the contact point between your car and a cinder block under it can only be a small portion of the surface area and therefore putting a concentrated load on the cinder block in a way that it can fail suddenly and unexpectedly.
Not a smart idea at all.........
Mr. Q - you've seen lots of options at various prices and I'll admit Jackpoint Jackstands are not the cheap end of the scale. Just as a point of consideration, I recently met a fellow PCA member who had a sizable dent in his rocker panel near the factory jacking location. It was caused by his car slipping off a conventional jack stand. He was not injured and his car is still drivable, but the damage is far more than the costs of Jackpoint Jackstands or any other method you've seen here for supporting a car. Find a method that works for you, but don't take chances with your safety or your car. Each of those is worth far more than you'll spend (or save) by picking something that isn't intended for supporting cars.
