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Correction - I went back and checked my original post on fitting my spacers, and I used 15mm H&R, not 14mm H&R!

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Torque wheel bolts to correct setting - then re-check after 100 miles.

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Install with spacers

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question to the guys with wheel spacers...have you had any issues with balancing your tires after installing spacers....i had a 04 c4s with the sport techno wheels, and the rear had to be fitted with spacers.

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Use 10 x 60mm bolts

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Also used 10 x 60mm bolts - again from Automotion

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Use 15mm h&r, not 14mm h&r

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Correction - I went back and checked my original post on fitting my spacers, and I used 15mm H&R, not 14mm H&R!

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Torque wheel bolts to correct setting - then re-check after 100 miles.

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Correction - I went back and checked my original post on fitting my spacers, and I used 15mm H&R, not 14mm H&R!

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Clean off the wheel hub

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H&R Spacers are hub centric, so alignment is no issue - just be sure to clean off the wheel hub with a wire brush to ensure a perfect fit.

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As I fitted here:

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Install with spacers

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question to the guys with wheel spacers...have you had any issues with balancing your tires after installing spacers....i had a 04 c4s with the sport techno wheels, and the rear had to be fitted with spacers.

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Recommend modification

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Someone brought spacers up as a recommended modification, but I had a hard time imagining what they would look like/do...

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Replace depending

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I'm no expert either, but I think it would actually change depending on the speed, braking, etc.

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Replace track a little bit

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Well it would change the track a little bit, and that would have an effect on handling.

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Set front 15mm if it doesnt fit

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i only bought 1 set for front 15mm if it doesnt fit then i will use un back and get 7mm for front

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Also used 10 x 60mm bolts - again from Automotion

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

spacers...can one suggest looking at the pics how many mm spacers i need to make it look flushed and right. thanks

POST 2Original post

15mm will be just right As I fitted here: before after Some details of the install: H&R are the manufacturer - and you'll need extra long wheel bolts as well.

POST 3Original post

14mm works fine.... I think mine are 15mm front and rear....looks sooo much better than standard

POST 4Original post

Good thread and great pictures. Someone brought spacers up as a recommended modification, but I had a hard time imagining what they would look like/do... I'm convinced, so now this one has moved up the priority list since it looks like an easy DIY. What's a fair price for these things? Hopefully not too much - I'm finding my wife's eye isn't as discerning as mine, which makes it a tough sell above a certain price threshold. Rudy --------------------------- '01 Arctic Silver/Black C2 Cabriolet '03 Silver F-150 Supercrew

POST 5Original post

http://www.automotion.com/product.as...dept%5Fid=5128 $129.99 for each pair - then add the cost of the longer wheel bolts to that for a full kit for your 996. Install is straight forward - use some copper grease on the location screw so it doesn't corrode in place later. Make sure you use the correct new wheel bolt length - original bolts will be too short DO NOT USE. H&R Spacers are hub centric, so alignment is no issue - just be sure to clean off the wheel hub with a wire brush to ensure a perfect fit. Torque wheel bolts to correct setting - then re-check after 100 miles. Final look - a very affordable and worthwhile upgrade

POST 6Original post

this is a good time to paint your top hats as well! I personally like 15mm/front and 7mm/rear and 15mm all around

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Red, Thanks for showing the difference between going with two different sized spacers and using the same size spacer all around. I'm leaning toward 15mm all around - but are there any reasons (other than aesthetics) for going 15mm rear/7 mm front? Thanks! Rudy -------------------------- '01 Arctic Silver/Black C2 Cabriolet '03 Silver F-150 Supercrew

POST 8Original post

Well it would change the track a little bit, and that would have an effect on handling. I can never remember how it works though--if wider track front will make more understeer/oversteer. I think, though, that a wider track rear will cause understeer and a wider track up front would cause oversteer. Edit: Well hell, I can't figure out how it works. I guess wider track will lower stability everywhere, you're just lowering it by different amounts at the front/rear with different tracks.

POST 9Original post

I like the 7mm rear better as the rims do not protrude outside of the wheel well. You save that look for 4X4 SUVs.

POST 10Original post

The properly sized spacers do make the car look better. I never told anyone this but I put spacers on my car and thought they looked like ****, so I took them off. I think I just discovered that I may not have installed them incorrectly.

POST 11Original post

Correction - I went back and checked my original post on fitting my spacers, and I used 15mm H&R, not 14mm H&R! Also used 10 x 60mm bolts - again from Automotion So the shots above are all 15mm spacer pics - above posts and URL link to product have been corrected

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************** ding, ding, ding... 100th post *************** Dave, Thanks for the explanation - I didn't even consider those effects. If I were to hazard a guess (purely from a naive physics standpoint, rather than experience) I would guess wider fronts would result in understeer (you would have to rotate the wheel further to get the same turning radius), narrower fronts in oversteer (you wouldn't have to turn it as much...) But what do I know - I'm not really a car guy (but I AM a pcar guy... hopefully you don't have to be both...) I'm sure a real car/pcar guy can help with this answer. Thanks again, Rudy ------------------------- '01 Arctic Silver/Black C2 Cabriolet '03 Silver F-150 Supercrew

POST 13Original post

I would go 15s all the way around, or for a NB maybe 15 up front and 7 in the rears.

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Rudy, let me know if you want to see the spacers on my 996 - I'm local to you Chris.

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I'm no expert either, but I think it would actually change depending on the speed, braking, etc. An issue if we are pushing the limits on a track. Nothing to worry about on the street. I went from nothing to 15s up front and the car handles just as well for DD tasks.

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Chris, Thanks for the offer, I'll take you up on that... it looks like the 15mm size would be the right one... I'll send you a PM as soon as my car is out of the body shop. Rudy --------------------------- '01 Arctic Silver/Black C2 Cabriolet '03 Silver F-150 Supercrew

POST 17Original post

question to the guys with wheel spacers...have you had any issues with balancing your tires after installing spacers....i had a 04 c4s with the sport techno wheels, and the rear had to be fitted with spacers. i had always wheel balancing issues. thanks.

POST 18Original post

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The H&R hub centric spacer should solve that problem - non hub centric spacers are by definition, more difficult to center on the hub, leading to potential wheel vibration issues. No issues to date using the hub centric spacer on my car.

POST 20 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

yes or no... http://http://vi.ebaydesc.com/ebaymo...known&caz.html

POST 21Original post

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Link no worky It's actually Item: 390026127181 on FleaBay And yep - they are what you need (plus a set of longer bolts of course)

POST 22Original post

Bolts here: http://www.automotion.com/product.as...dept%5Fid=5128

POST 23 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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i like ur 2 pic nice what susp ur runin

POST 24Original post

Maci, read at the top of the first pic and then the comment between the two pics.

POST 25 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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i meant 2ND PIC..........

POST 26Original post

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... and the caption above the 2nd pic (see below) reads "and 15mm all around"

POST 27 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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and my original ? was"what susp ur runin"...not what spacers...please put on ur glasses!

POST 29Original post

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My mistake, I thought you were actually trying to type in English and screwed up the abbreviation for "spacer," especially since this whole thread is about spacers. Rest assured, I will never make the mistake of trying to help you again.

POST 30 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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ur frgvn

POST 31Original post

I wasn't apologizing. I was stating that I was mistaken when I thought you could type in English. Obviously, that assumption was/is incorrect.

POST 32 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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does the word......... susp .....look like ........ spacer .........................or does this ..... look like this?......fyi the susp will fit ur honda.............

POST 33 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

hi i just got my spacers with no screw.....should it be included with the sale or no.....confused what is the purpose?

POST 34Original post

Screw is an easy way of aligning the spacer while you attach the wheel. Not essential, as the spacer will push fit onto the hub - just be sure to align the holes for the wheel bolts. Should have come with the kit - but I think you'll be fine without it.

POST 35 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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thanks

POST 36Original post

No problem. If you did want to get the screws - suspect it's the same one that Porsche use to align the brake rotors on the hub - hence a dealers should have it in stock. I'm guessing, but I reckon it's the same. You can see two of them here before the spacer was fitted

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what size spacers did you get? Front and back?

POST 38 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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since car is for some reason lower in front than back? i only bought 1 set for front 15mm if it doesnt fit then i will use un back and get 7mm for front

POST 39Original post

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sry I's awol fr abit... susp runin p9's. pls, w/o dat smal scrw yr whel wil fal of.

POST 40 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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4 rl?

POST 41Original post

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werd. BTW, what size wheels do you have? -td

POST 42 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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18X8.5 and 18X10

POST 43Original post

maci911: I had the same problem a year ago. I did actually put the 14mm in the rear and never did install the 7mm in the front and not sure if I will...the 7mm is still in orginal packaging. (Perhaps for sale) I like the 14mm in the rear since it makes the car seem like a wide body do to the contrast between the front to back tire position. Perhaps it's just my imagination. But I like it. 99C2

POST 44Original post

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OMG I was relaxing with a beer and almost spit it all over the place on that one... where's Tim !! LMAO!

POST 45Original post

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Yeah, I saw it. That was a good com-back from Red. I have already been down this road so I decided to say nothing.

POST 47 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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i will try the 15mm in front saturday if rubbing occurs then i will need 7mm

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