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If you could have any 996, I'd recommend the '04 40th anniversary model.

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However, the bank does not want my financial situation to change before I close on my new house (building it) so I have a little time to look around.

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A significant step change occurred with the '02s, which got a stiffer chassis, more power and subjectively better interior finishing (Porsche was recovering financially by this time).

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Or change his profile name to I<3Boxsters....

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Owning a Porsche can be expensive and you�ll need some spare cash for the pre-purchase inspection, IMS upgrade, oil changes, tires, tune ups, clutch changes, etc.

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If you could have any 996, I'd recommend the '04 40th anniversary model.

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However, the bank does not want my financial situation to change before I close on my new house (building it) so I have a little time to look around.

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A significant step change occurred with the '02s, which got a stiffer chassis, more power and subjectively better interior finishing (Porsche was recovering financially by this time).

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Or change his profile name to I<3Boxsters....

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Owning a Porsche can be expensive and you�ll need some spare cash for the pre-purchase inspection, IMS upgrade, oil changes, tires, tune ups, clutch changes, etc.

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Run cooler as a result)

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- improved engine cooling (the newer cars run cooler as a result)

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Run costs are higher

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The biggest complaint I have with the 996 is because I drive so many miles (I can average 30K miles per year) running costs are higher.

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Run forever

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The older Porsche sports cars like the 911SC are still amazing to drive and will run forever.

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(Would likely be more glaring in the higher skilled run groups but for the last two years I have held my own respectively).

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I really doubt you like to run into cars on the road that are just like your own, judging by your Avatar.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I would like to purchase my first Porsche in a couple of months, so I am starting my research and found this site. I am considering a newer ('05-'10) boxster or an older ('00-'05) 996, which my son tells me MUST be a cab. I would appreciate any point of view about either one. Thanks in advance for all the info.

POST 2Original post

i prefer a coupe over a cab and a 911 over a boxster any day! but its all about what u like better, test drive both coupe and cab, and boxster and a 911.

POST 3Original post

'00 - 04 Carrera will be a 996, '05 Carrera or Carrera S will be a 997.1, '05 C4S will be a 996.

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+1 on 996. I have a 2000 C2 Cab really like it but my friends love to tease me by calling it a Boxster.

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Before I bought my 996, I considered a new Boxster. I test drove it, and it was awesome. They are very nice, very tight cars. Personally, I prefer the look of a coupe, and I prefer the look of a 911 to a Cayman. I think your best bet is to drive both, and see what you think. The interior of the newer Boxster will be more modern and very nice, but you may prefer the way the 911 drives. It comes down to personal preference. Have fun with the process!

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If you haven't driven a Boxster or a 911 cpe or cab, do that first, otherwise you'll get our opinions on which you should drive.Make it your choice and you'll be happiest with your decision. I's also drive a Cayman, but not if you want a convertable.

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Boxsters are great cars, but do you want your son to grow up and be a girlie man? get the 911! welcome to RL and now for something completely differant, real advise - from me Either way, get a car with CPO if you can find one - worsth whatever extra you had to pay in the event you need it for anything

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Will you ever be carrying more than one passenger?

POST 9Original post

passenger smashenger, this is about being a man ! hey, that moped would go nicely in the garage next to your Boxster

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I had a similar dilemma, newer boxster really drove tighter and was the same price as a 996, but you cannot compare to a 911. More passengers and overall better fit and finish. Ended up with a 99 996 Cab. Definitely made the right decision!

POST 11Original post

hell yea! plus it doesnt sit in the driveway and say..... "You should have bought the 911 ya dumb a$$!"

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Drive both. If you are leaning towards the Boxster, try to arrange live with it for a few days - particularly if the weather is less than perfect. I find them a bit clautrophobic, particularly in bad weather and traffic. That said, I love driving a Boxster S. It howls and digs in on corners. But in the end I wanted more power and a roof, so I went with a 996. I would not buy a non-S Boxster.

POST 14Original post

well enought Porsh or Porsch comparison, these guys are idiots at least the chick knows how to pronounce it

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welcome and good luck on your search. +1000 on searching for a 996-997 as opposed to a Box. Plenty of Porsches to be had and in all varieties. Mk1, Mk2 C2,C4, Turbo , Cab or coupe, Targas are okay..... As long as the car has previous documented history and maintenance, and PPI is thorough, miles shouldn't be an issue. Is it going to be a daily driver or weekend fun car? either way, it will be a very rewarding experience to own one.

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996 always beats a boxter, no question in my mind.

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Why do you prefer the coupe? Is it quieter or warmer?

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My son tells me that I am way too cool of a mom for that!!

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Yes, it will be my son and myself - almost always! Until he is old enough to drive it himself, that is!!

POST 20 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for the great welcome and terrific pictures - love them! The DD is a LX470, but I know my son will want me to pick him up from school in the cab!!!!!

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Good luck on your search. I do grocery shopping with the 996. I don't know how well the boxster will handle a shopping cart full of food. A new car is going to have mechanical problem taken care of for free I'd think for the protection length. The boxster might have a smoother ride. But I don't think the 911's have a rough ride anyway.

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I hadn't had a Porsche in 20 years - earlier this year i thought I would get a 2005/6 Boxster S. Test drove a bunch - loved them. But i decided I should drive a 2002/4 911 Cab before i pulled the trigger. Took me less than 5 mins behind the wheel of a 2004 911 cab to change my mind. To me the Boxster was fun, the 911 was Wow. But everyone has their own preferences - you will enjoy either.

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I love my 2003 911 C2 cab. That said: I'll go against the grain here, get a 09-10 Boxster ( S if the $$ are there). It is newer it has an updated engine and the warranty will last longer. Ask the same question on the Boxster forum for a different perspective on this.

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One thing I'll add for consideration is that early cabs had a plastic rear window and no glove box. I think in 2002 (someone will correct me if I have the wrong year), the cab got a glass rear window and glove box. And an extra 20 horsepower. I really like the Boxster but a 2002-2004 996 cab will be hard to beat.

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Better fit and finish? I own both and I'd say fit and finish is virtutally identical, which is what you'd expect whent the interiors are virtually identical (for the same generation). He's talking about the 987 vs 996 and I'd say many think the newer interior is an improvement (I'd say it's a toss up). To the OP, I'd suggest you get out and drive both. You've listed a pretty wide range of cars and I think a '10 987 is in many ways a large jump over a 2000 996. In fact if you get the S is will pretty much trump a '00 996 in every performance category. Personally if you were going for a cab I'd recommend the Boxster over the 911 (provided you don't need the back seat) as I think it's a more attractive convertable than the 911 (again personal opinion). Bottom line drive 'em both and choose the car that speaks to you most (or just get one of each).

POST 28Original post

Mom? <perk> anyhow I was being silly, the boxster is a great car, its just not a 911 (the satndard) - good to see you getting some info on the cars before you make a choice either way. As far as coupe -vs- cab, its a body stiffness issue, but I pass a gal about once a month on my way to work in a Guards Red 996 Cab and I think it looks pretty hot - still cab is not for me, if I want a ragtop I will buy one designed from the ground up as a ragtop (ie Triumph, Fiat, Miata.....)

POST 29Original post

i prefer a coupe not only because i think they look better. they are lighter and more rigid. but i know a lot of ppl on here love cabs, so its up to you and what you like better!!!!

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I would LOVE to have a GT3 but since I have not won the lottery yet, it is not an option. I like to end up in the back seat when I step on it, so performance is paramount. Looks like the 996 will be it, but I will drive a boxster just to be sure. I hate being shark bait for salesmen - "Dumb blonde with lip gloss=$$$$$$". I have to know EXACTLY what I am talking about when I walk in the door. Are there some years that are better than others for the 996?

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I definitely do NOT want a plastic rear window - too noisy. Will have to find out which years had them so I can cross them off the list.

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My son hates grocery shopping so will most likely always use the LX for it. Also, my father's monster garage is in VA NOT OH so I would like to find a porsche without too many maintenance issues.

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Sell me on it!!!

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I LOVED IT!!! You made me laugh and I love to laugh - THANKS!!!

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I actually want DOUBLE WOW!!!!

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What a BEAUTY!!!! Love the blue!

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Its always a little questionalble how people will take a bit of joking, some like it, some get offended and there is everything in between... glad you took it well.... did you say "Gloss Lipstick" OMG I think I am in love I think having a little extra room in back is one of the best reasons to get a 911 over the other cars, seems I am always taking along a jacket, helmet, small lunch, bag of groceries, 12 pack of beer, blow up doll or something to stick back there. Not having any option but the front "funk" or the passenger seat could be ok but its nice to have that little extra room. Performance - Boxster S and Cayman both are HOT to drive, very quick and maybe even handle a little better in some cases. That said the 996/911 platform is no slug. I am now in an 86' Carerra from a 992 C2 and I thought I would be giving up a lot going so far back in time. I found out I was, it was called weight! - the 86' is a rocket and I am madly in love with it. Mind you the 996 had certain aspects that make it a better car to own / drive / be seen in / and have a GREAT time in. I guess it boils down to $ and time.... if we had more of each we would all own one (or 2-3-4) of each!! As far as the salesperson (man) goes, a good salesperson will recognize you as an informed "potential" buyer and allow you to gather info, have the car by yourself for a day or so, let you take it to YOUR OWN mechanic for PPI (a must) and then negocitate a fair price... nothing more, nothing less... if they see your hot lips and long flowing blonde hair (I know you didnt say it was long and flowing, but I can have my little fantacy right? ) and think "dumb (hot) blonde (sorry I know, I am bad) then find another salesperson and tell that one to go take a shower....which is where I am going now and again its a pleasure having you around!!

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Funny how some people get the "DAFS" response to this question, and some don't... To answer your question, the 996 series got better as it went along in pretty linear fashion. A significant step change occurred with the '02s, which got a stiffer chassis, more power and subjectively better interior finishing (Porsche was recovering financially by this time). They also got the turbo-style lights rather than the original design in a concession to marketing. This really is a case of buying the newest car you can afford; there aren't any anomalous 'bad years'. IMHO, mileage isn't as important as some people think it is. I'lll take higher miles and an older car if they come with a complete service history and few owners, where low miles and a mysterious past are terrifying. There are three reasons for this: One is simply that these cars are very maintenance sensitive, and they like to be driven. The second is that certain manufacturing-related failures were tied to mileage and a car with a clean history and higher miles probably presents a slightly lower risk for some of the things that can go wrong. And the third is that prices have dropped to where some of these cars have been more recently owned by people who really shouldn't have them. Like every Porsche ever made, as this series ages, I think provenance is going to start to matter more than numbers.

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If I were you I'd search for an '02 or later (2nd generation model). Here's some of the improvements that Porsche made on the Mk II's ('02-'04) vs the Mk I's ('99-'01). Mk II improvements - 20 extra hp (24 more than the '99) - more torque at a lower rpm (thanks to VarioCam Plus) - Better aerodynamics (20% less front lift and 40% less rear lift) - 20% stiffer chassis - improved interior - improved oiling (revised pan and baffles for better high g performance) - improved engine cooling (the newer cars run cooler as a result) - better fuel economy (only 1 mpg, but every little bit helps) - improved suspension (reinforced strut towers, revised springs, shocks, bushings, and sway bars). - revised exhaust (better sound) - only a 55 lb weight gain over the '99-'01 cars If you could have any 996, I'd recommend the '04 40th anniversary model. In my opinion it's the best 996 (non-turbo/GT3) Porsche ever produced. It comes standard with the X51 Power Kit (345 hp) and many nice options. Good luck

POST 41Original post

i've had an 02 996 coupe for 3+ yrs now and love it. My wife wanted to get rid of the RL acura and get a conv- she needs auto- picked up an 07 boxster S Tip w/sport crono few months back & i was surprised how much i like driving it- Im in Honolulu so weather is perfect for conv- still prefer driving the 996 but i take the boxster whenever i can even with it being a tip- as was said- take a drive in each and decide. Can't go wrong either way.

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My 2 cents is when the son offers to pay for the car he can specify the car's options. I'd not get a cab unless I was sure I was into top down driving sufficiently to warrant the extra cost and trade-offs associated with a cab vs. a hardtop. To state the obvious the Boxster and 996 are rather different cars. I own both a Boxster (an 02 bought new in early 02 and have put over 236K miles on it) and a 996 Turbo (since a year ago last June and have put over 35K miles on it). Both are fine cars. Both have their pluses and minuses. I love the Boxster's mid-engine handling but do not care for its soft top. The top is great and the car's quiet and comfortable but I just do like top down driving that much. The Boxster was a compromise in order to get a good Porsche with a mid-engine layout. Had there been a Cayman available in '02 I'd bought that instead. (I did in '09 buy a Cayman S.) The 996 has a different feel, still quite acceptable, just different. Not as light on its feet, so to speak. The biggest complaint I have with the 996 is because I drive so many miles (I can average 30K miles per year) running costs are higher. Consumables, mainly tires (and soon brakes) cost more for the 996 vs. the Boxster. (18" wheels on the 996 and 17" wheels on the Boxster.) Also, gas mileage is a factor. 996 gets 18 to 19mph in the same driving conditions the Boxster gets 22mph to 23mph. And on the freeway I have to work very hard to keep the gas mileage above 25mpg while on the Boxster the same effort results in nearly 28mpg gas mileage. Since I can drive 5K miles in a week's time that's nearly 50 gallons of gas difference and that's $146 in just a week's driving. My commute is 60 miles per day and the 996 requires a fill up in less than a week's time while I can run a whole week on the Boxster's tank. Test drive both examples though and make up your own mind. The next best thing to owning a Porsche is shopping for one. Happy shopping! Sincerely, Macster.

POST 43Original post

If you want a boy racer get the Boxster but if you want a man's toy get a 996.

POST 44Original post

Wow Wow is a Turbo. At my age anything over a Wow is dangerous

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If you're talking Cayman S versus 996 (C2), I vote for Cayman S . And... I have done just that. I've owned both and I WAY prefer the Cayman S. No comparison, IMO. See more @ https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-...e-happier.html . As many have been saying, you need to drive both. I have, and I choose Cayman S. Others undoubtedly prefer the 996. Another thing to consider, at least where I live (WA): a Cayman (base or S) is much more rare and unique than either a Boxster or 996. I've owned my Cayman S for a month now and have yet to see another on the road yet.

POST 46Original post

Oh yeh...buy a car because it is rare...LOL A Lada is pretty rare too...perhaps that would be a better choice.

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Most seem to think I should NOT get a cab. It appears that you have one - any thoughts as to why I should not get one. Would love to hear about the red one and better pictures, please. Thanks a million-

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OMG! How funny! LOL! You and the OSU game have turned a boring day of doing laundry into an interesting one! I don't know if shoulder length is long, but it does flow! I guess I shouldn't be so hard on the salespeople (thank you for correcting me) since most of them know my son by name. I just don't want them to faint when I tell them I actually want to buy!!!

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Sorry, I didn't have my son here to ask (at his father's for Thanksgiving Break). He knows every feature on almost every car. I do thank you for the explanation.

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Thanks for narrowing it down for me - I was starting to get dizzy!!!!!!

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Then I won't tell you how old I am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Would love a turbo, but still haven't won the lottery!!

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So a Boxster is a "boy racer" and a Cayman is a "lada". Got any more brilliant insight to share?

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And why do you think so many people mod their cars? To... be... different ... from ... all ... the ... other ... ones ... out ... there ... perhaps? I really doubt you like to run into cars on the road that are just like your own, judging by your Avatar. I like having a unique car, and I think you do, too.

POST 54 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

So, as a footnote to close this thread, I wanted to say that this porsche will be purchased as a toy for my son and I. We both wanted a 996, but I didn't know if I would have enough to close the deal, so had planned on a Boxster as a backup...but you all have convinced me to hold out for the 996. The question of coupe or cab will be decided at the time of the test drive. Thanks for all of your advice. As you can tell, I am VERY, VERY proud of my son as I know all of your mothers are proud of you. Don't ever pass up an opportunity to tell her that you love her. And for all of our wonderful servicepeople 'over there', please tell your moms that if I could I would give each of them a hug to help cover the hole in their chest where their heart should be. Because their hearts are walking around outside of their bodies...inside each of you. Until Another Thread- "LADA" Beginner PS Yes, I know, you will delete this.

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OK, I'm too late on this one, but . . . The Boxter is very nice. A few years ago my wife and I went out to test drive/purchase a Boxter, and in an impulse, tried a 2003 996. We left with the 996.

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I want to address your cab vs. coupe delima. IMHO it really does come down to if you like open-top driving or not. The reason I say this is the disadvantages of a cab just don't out-weigh the experience if that is what you are looking for. I owned an Alfa and it was not worth the trouble and I swore I would never own another cab but newer Porsche's (and I assume any other quality cab) is different. It doesn't leak, not THAT much louder, not THAT much looser, etc. I am DE'ing my car five or six times a year and am sure I am at some performance disadvantage to the coupes but it is not significant I can assure you. (Would likely be more glaring in the higher skilled run groups but for the last two years I have held my own respectively). So, I think you should decide now if you like open top driving or not--don't wait for the test drive. I love my cab.

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HAHAHa.. good call.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJVVoMXgfzU

POST 58Original post

I dont get it....I wore one of those things once... this "girl" told me if I wore it she would not get pregnant??? after the third day I really just had to remove it and relieve myself no matter what happened to her - where is the pleasure in that? I didnt even call her to say I was going to remove it....

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my first Porsche was a targa in Albany NY. great car in the spring and fall. but other than those 4 weeks, it was a pain. go with a coupe. quieter and stiffer. 996 is a great car. if you can affort it, find a c2s or c4s. surfer161 2002 c4s

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911 to Boxster is similar to; if your a Sportster, or regular Harley guy. haha

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Thanks for 'having my back'

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So, I think you should decide now if you like open top driving or not--don't wait for the test drive. I love my cab.[/QUOTE] I would appear that I need to do some driving NOW!

POST 64Original post

never too early if you drive a cab, have them pull it in out of the weather and open the top if the weather is bad/cold... thats what the service area is for. - dont forget the lipstick, seems to open doors

POST 65Original post

OP any update on what your leaning towards? btw 996 ftw

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He posted this earlier....

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A little late to this thread as it looks like you've made up your mind pretty much, but from one mom to another, go for the 996! When I was looking, a million boxsters kept coming up in my searches, but I just couldn't do it. I couldn't buy a boxster when I could buy a 911. I ended up finding a beautiful 2003 C2 Coupe and I LOVE it. And my daughter loves it too Every morning, she begs me to take the Porsche - how can I refuse such a request from my precious 7yr old.

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My son is ten and he has this one outfit that looks like a race car driver's suit - I can hardly get it off of him to wash it I know once I get the porsche that will be the only car he will let me drive! So, I have to find one that is a cab as well as good in the snow Does such a ride exist? I hope so, because I am sure anxious to get behind the wheel of it Thanks for the great advice!

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C4S Cab with snow tires = great in snow. C2S Cab with snow tires = good in snow.

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Thanks for watching out for me and it appears you were right

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Does anyone know of a C4S for sale in Ohio? The hunt is on

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Go to Autotrader, Craigslist, and try your local porsche club's online classifieds.

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Not sure if this was hashed out already, but the price difference between a 996, and a new Boxster or Cayman is huge! You could buy two 996s and still have money left over for what a new Boxster goes for! Good luck, and enjoy the current buyer's market out there! PS--The 996 was made in Germany - unlike Boxsters.

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I'm having a 'blonde' moment - does the C4S cab come with a rear seat? I have to have a rear seat - one of my baby girl's (dog) goes everywhere with us, so will have to have room for her! Also, hope to take my son to do some test driving after school on Wednesday if the weather is nice.

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C4s comes with rear seats..... Only the gt3 / gt2 line will not have rear seats.

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It sounds to me like your son is set on a cabriolet. Who can blame him? Open air motoring is FUN. Forget the coupe. A major reason you�re getting this is for your son, and he wants to motor around with the top down. If I was a young lad again, what could be better than riding in a flat-6 Porsche sports car with the wide open sky as your roof, the sun at your back, the wind whistling around you, and girls whistling and waving at you and your car? Having said that, I own a 996 coupe and I love it. I previously owned a Boxster and I loved that as well. They�re both beautiful, fun cars. Here are a few thoughts to consider besides the standard �the 996 has more power and 2 more seats and the Boxster is a girly man�s car� (which it most certainly is NOT). The Boxster has more cargo room. It really does. You can fit more in the 2 trunks it has than the 1 trunk and back seats the 996 has. Besides, your son and his friends will NOT like sitting in the vestigial back seats. Are you really going to put your dog in the back seat with the top down? Aren�t you worried he�s going to jump out? It�s a short jump. The Boxster seems to handle little bumps on the road better than the 996. It just soaks them right up. But the 996 handles the big bumps better. The 996 is more difficult to drive well than the Boxster. Yes, the 996 trounces the Boxster on the track, but the Boxster has perfect 50/50 balance and turns so well. The rear-heavy 996 definitely has a learning curve, whereas the Boxster is a road carver right from day one. The 996 is more comfortable for me since I�m almost 6 and a half feet tall. This is a huge deal to me and a major reason I like my 996 a bit more than my old Boxster. I realize that this probably won�t apply to you or your son. The stock Boxster sounds better than a stock 996. It�s true. To make my 996 sound delicious I had to install an aftermarket exhaust and cold air intake. The Boxster�s intake whine sends shivers down my spine right out of the box. This is obvious, but the Boxster is cheaper to purchase. You can find a good Boxster for a lot less than a good 996. Owning a Porsche can be expensive and you�ll need some spare cash for the pre-purchase inspection, IMS upgrade, oil changes, tires, tune ups, clutch changes, etc. Oh, and the Boxster gets better gas mileage than a 996. The posters who wrote that you need to test drive both cars are absolutely correct. It�s really not a black and white decision. You�ll find your own reasons to prefer one over the other. I like the 996 better but only by a smidgeon. Having said that you will love your Porsche. There are faster cars than this duo, but nothing will provide you with as much pleasure for even twice the price. The old slogan really is true: Life is short. Drive a Porsche.

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My son has requested that I take him to Germany so that he (WE!) can tour the plant there. We would like to do it this summer or next. I am finding that the prices on the 996 are much more reasonable than I first thought - which of course makes this all so much more fun

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Is that SouthBay as in San Fran?!! My 'baby girl' is an eleven your old golden who weighs 90 pounds and I'm sorry to say that her jumping days are over, but she still loves hanging her head out of the window I so love an engine that has a deep throaty G R O W L And you're right, I am not 6'6"

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I'm in the South Bay as in the Beach Cities Area south of LAX. I love Goldens, but they're clearly not lap dogs who can sit in your son's lap. Your baby girl is going to need her own seat, so the 996 it is then! Growling huh? Boxsters don't really growl. The Boxster purrs and howls somewhat like a tiger piloting a WW2 fighter plane. But stock 996's sound like blenders. Mine definitely growls. ...And barks, clicks, whines, whistles, and makes machine gun noises. It's a mechanical symphony on wheels that makes pedestrians smile, causes other motorists turn their heads, and scares little dogs who think a robotic Doberman is just over the hill. But it's definitely no coffee can rumbler that will buzz the fillings in your teeth. Better do your research on exhausts and intakes if you want your 996 to sound good.

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Wow, we have an 11 year old female golden as well, but a small one at 53 lbs.

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Mine should actually be about 65 pounds, but we love her no matter what. Her 'sister' is a 13 year old 165 pound Great Pyrenees and the vet and groomer come to her now. I feel very privileged to be able to be at home with her as much as possible. They are inseperable and I will be sad beyond words when my 'Big Beautiful Baby' goes to heaven.

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OMG!! LOL!! I laughed and laughed - THANKS! You must be around the Huntington Beach area. Do you know the Beach Boys song 'My 409'? Listen to the engine at the beginning of the song I love it!! A WWII fighter plane, huh? I have a plane titled in my name and have logged a few hours in it. My son loves WWII dogfights and knows more about that war than I do (ditto for cars!), I MUST HAVE SEXY WHEELS - so that will be my first purchase (after the car of course!) and then I'll work on that RUMBLE!!

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If you don't need the back seat AND can afford an '09 or '10 Boxster S, I'd go that way. Beginning in 2009, there is a newer engine without an IMS (Intermediate Shaft), which has been a weak point of earlier engines. I have both a 04 Boxster S (anniv model) and an 06 C2S and love em both.

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I�m glad I made you smile. But wait till you get your Porsche. You and your boy will be beaming all the time! The Beach Cities area is Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, Redondo Beach, and Rancho Palos Verdes. Huntington Beach is about 30 miles away. American muscle cars have very unique sounds. The Chevrolet Bel-Air 409 was one mean machine. Imagine a car from the early 1960�s that did the quarter mile in a hair over 12 seconds and the 0-60 in 4 seconds! That baby would smoke a 996 in a literal cloud of noxious pollutants. But then again a 996 Carrera is not a dragster and would get smoked in a drag race by a souped up Civic. A Porsche flat-6 can provide a deep bassy growl with the right exhaust, yet it will never rumble like an American V-8. But in my opinion Porsches sound so much sexier. I prefer the following soundtrack in this YouTube video. How can anyone not find these sounds breathtakingly beautiful? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Pu3d-G05U

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Wow, touring the Porsche plant in Germany, flying planes, wanting a growling engine...who ARE you?

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As I was walking down the hallway to me son's classroom I saw a poster he had made while he was at his father's house, hanging on the wall. It said: My Hero: My Mom She is my inspiration because she is so kind, loving and understanding that she inspires me to be more kind and loving. I stood there with tears running down my cheeks I am a MOM A mom who enjoys water skiing, traveling and would love to race if she had the money and wouldn't get smoked by all of you and is passionate about cars and animals.

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SouthBay996 WOW!! One terrific video - I can only hope that mine will sound like that!! I have been aching to get out and start some test driving, but it has been too cold - 30 degrees with blowing snow. Saw some sharp 944's I would like to drive too. Thought I would make some phone calls since I can't tolerate the cold.

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Living in Southern California I�d forgotten how cold it gets elsewhere. It was 70 degrees in my neck of the woods today. Right now it�s about 60. But yeah, wintery snow covered roads are not the best conditions to test drive a sports car. I think some Boxsters are going for less than $10,000 these days, just a bit more than a 944. Ridiculous price since the Boxster�s engine and parts are probably worth more than that. If it�s a choice between a 944 and a Boxster, I�d forget about the 944. The Boxster is superior in almost every single way. Besides, the lad wants a convertible! But don�t take my word for it. Wait for the roads to thaw and test drive some Porsches!

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SouthBay 996 So, what's up with the 944's? Not big enough engines? Too old? Would love to hear your thoughts about them. I know, this is NOT the 944 forum

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How about you test drive both cars and post a review yourself.

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I would love to, but we are in an arctic freeze right now - 3 degrees out - and I'm not real sure that the dealership would be too happy about me wrapping a porsche around a telephone pole! Hopefully when the weather warms up to freezing I can do some driving

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Indeed. However, sports cars are always cheapest to buy in the winter. I thought you were choosing between the Boxster and the 996. Then you strangely mentioned that you were considering a 944. I'm partial to Porsche 356's, 911's, Boxsters, and Caymans. The older Porsche sports cars like the 911SC are still amazing to drive and will run forever. But there's no reason to get a 944. It's almost the same price as the Boxster and the Boxster does EVERYTHING better. The Box is an underrated sports car and you really have to drive it to understand just how sublime an experience it is.

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I agree, the winter is the best time to buy any car. However, the bank does not want my financial situation to change before I close on my new house (building it) so I have a little time to look around. I SAW a nice 944 the other day -black with gold wheels - and just thought I would get someone else's view. I'm trying to do my homework - I can actually

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I still don't have this down yet I was saying that I can actually tell the difference between them all now and my son is giving me less "Duh, Mom" looks I AM very, very excited about doing some test driving

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Ok, that makes sense. I apologize for misunderstanding you.

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Please, please do not feel that you need to apologize. It is hard enough to communicate when standing face to face, let alone when you have NO facial expression or body language to respond to. I have always felt that 'body language' is 95% of communication - so much can be said when no words are spoken. I'm trying very hard to learn all the models - what's with all the numbers (engine size?)? And so I would like feed back on each of them. Just trying to catch up with my son

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Too much talk and not enough pictures http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Woq6FinIzlw

POST 101Original post

I've owned 2 944's. Great cars, for the time. But compared to a 996 (or Boxster), slow antiques!

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Please refer to the HELP! HELP! thread regarding test driving.

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RE: the HELP! HELP! thread?? I need a link, aint no way I am putting HELP! HELP! in MY search engine!!

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Here! Here! Here!

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ivangene, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: me not member

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Well that would do it.

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He's half somthing....

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well we know that much....

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You guys are making me laugh too hard!!!

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My demand still stands......ban him. Or something like that.... Or change his profile name to I<3Boxsters.... O.o And if he starts talking about the weather, double the time.

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weather? Hell its like 50 damn degrees!! all my snow is melting and getting rained on... just got home from skiing before the big rains come stupid Seattle !

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That sounds like a you problem.....time to join up??

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Oh my, you thought that it would be helpful to jump right in to the deep end of the pool in OT? Look obviously I was not there, but from your own description it sounds like you rolled up to the Porsche dealership in a Lexus luxobarge complete with shiny lip gloss and a leopard print bra and you were suprised when the salesman treated your request to test drive three high powered sports cars with summer tires on a very cold afternoon with suspicion? What did I get wrong?

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I thought that was an unusual detail to provide. It sucks that the dealership was not more helpful, but it also seems (from the info she posted) she might have handled it better. Beginner I'd suggest you call a dealership in advance, establish your seriousness as a potential customer and arrange a test drive. That way, if the dealership is unwilling, you can take your business elsewhere.

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if i didn't need to carry the ocassional extra kid, i'd lean to the boxter. had one for a loaner once and darned near kept it. but then it does get called the dreaded "cute" word, so...

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Now that I have both the C2S and Boxster S, I really miss the rear trunk when I'm in the C2S. And let me tell ya', there's nothing cute about the Boxster. It's a great sports car! Now if they'd just put that 3.8 into the Boxster, well I digress...

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Marc, I think it's "Half Fast" That is what everyone used to call me when I was at a track event??

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LOL - I would be happy to be Half Fast beats Half Slow

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