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I've seen my fair share of 996s go for sale with replaced engines, but i read the buyres guide here and it said engine failure wasn't very common.
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Well, I changed my mind I'm set on a cobalt blue, but I can't seem to find one with tan interior anyone have any info?
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Once the 997 Mk II's start shipping I suspect early 997s will take a hit.
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I looked it up on carfax...clean carfax w/3 owners.
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If they don't even bother to clean the engine before taking a pic, that says something.
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I don't usually hang around here as I have a 928, but the first porsche I ever drove was a 996 coupe in that silverish goldish color...I wanted one since then plus it didnt help my dad had a 996TT. Problem was I was 16 at the time and I worked at a carwash and I've come a long way since that and now I have more disposable income and I'm getting rid of the 928 seeing that prices of 996 so much attainable to me I'm seriously considering getting one. What am I to look for in a 996??
Guys, I found this one oruce and the interior is very attractive looks really well cared for, but the mileage
heres the link
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...0&cardist=1283
Are you looking for a tiptronic? The 2 reasons the car is so cheap is b/c it's an automatic & the high mileage. It does have nice options though. I looked it up on carfax...clean carfax w/3 owners. I know, I know carfax isn't the end all be all but it's a nice to know. If this is really what you are looking for, be sure to get a PPI.
K
Joey,
Between those 2 cars I would almost lean towards the tiiptronic. With that much mileage on it most of the bugs have been worked out.
The manual has so few miles on it, I would call it a "garage queen". These cars would prefer to be driven on a regular basis (like every other day).
Best would be to find something in between and possibly from someone on Rlist or Rtech.
There are 2 good things for you:
1. The economy. Prices on 911 are dropping and folks are dumping them left and right.
2. The 2009's are coming out this month and there have been significant improvements. That will further drive down the price of a 1999 911.
In the meantime, learn everything you can about the years you are considering. Find a good local Porsche mechanic to pick his brain and do an inspection for u.
Be patient, time is on your side...
Good luck,
I like that car...like the color...like the interior, looks well cared for...and like the price. For $18K, you should keep about another $10K or a bit more for a new engine....that would be my only reservation about this car....although I dont' know much about the longevity of the tiptronic trannys.....but I do like that color combo. Just be aware that with that sort of mileage, you're probably on borrowed time with regard to a new engine and/or tranny....the highest mileage I've seen before engine replacement was 177K kms.
I would recommend Searching Ebay right now. They have had better deals than Autotrader or anywhere else I have searched. You might want to expand your search to other states as well. I like Arizona and Florida. Stay away from snowy states.
Check out this car from the BAY...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...mZ220279657578
Always look at the pics of the engine compartment. If they don't even bother to clean the engine before taking a pic, that says something.
If you look at this pic you can tell that this guy was into 911's. He replaced the air intake pipe w/ silicone, plus the short shifter and other mods suggest that he was into the car, but probably didn't track it. If the PPI is clean and the recent service was complete and documented, this car would be a candidate.
They want $23,800 but obviously aren't getting it. I would call the guy directly and start about $5 grand below asking. They probably bought this car at an auction. Dog him for the high mileage, condition of the interior, and lack of a warranty. Ask him about the RMS, (which he won't know a damn thing about) and then start in about the high failure rate. Work your way up to your max price, if no deal, then walk away. Keep in mind that it will cost about $600 to ship the car to California.
Just a few thoughts...
We have a member, El Torrente, with 130K miles on the original clock I think. Pick up a car with a replacement engine if you are patient.
You can have someone come and teach you how to drive manual. Its a one day course and your driving experience will change forever even if you are not shifting in a Porsche.
Well, now I know I've been in the wrong model line this whole time!! You guys are much nicer than the folk over at the 928 Forum!! Well there are some nice ones I hope to join your ranks soon I will do my homework and thanks for all the tips. I'm reading the buyers guide now thanks for all info guys!
I own a tip, but it isn't because I don't drive a manual, it's because I have kept and continue to keep this particular car in gridlock central and have lived with high strung manuals in these environments before, fun 15 years ago, but I'm over it. If you're someplace normal, you should think about the manual. Regardless of what you wind up buying (the 02+ tips are great btw), you will enjoy a well handling sportscar more if you know how to drive a manual.
You seem like a gearhead, and you'll learn real fast (like 30 minutes). My advice is to rent a manual truck or van, even a uhaul, from someone who will sell you hell or high water style no deductible insurance, the sort that if you break stuff it's no sweat. When the attendant comes out to unlock it for you, rope him in and give him a few bucks to take you around the block. Drop him off, drive it all day, and you'll be fine. Or, if that feels like too much social engineering, bring a buddy who knows how to drive stick to show you, but drive it all day, no matter how embarrassed you are.
The reason I say truck is you probably can't rent a car with a standard in your neck of the woods, but you should be able to find a truck (semi commercial type). Plus they have long, deliberate throws so you'll probably find the right gear without having to look down (dangerous!), generally a lot of pedal effort, and they get beaten to death all the time so no one will freak if you burn it out (so long as it's insured). And you'll feel less self conscious stalling a rented panel van in an intersection, happens all the time!
It really won't. When I was 17, my friend had a V-8 Mustang and sent me on an errand (alone) and it had a manual. I knew the concept but had no real experience. It was about a 40 minute errand and by the time I got back, I could drive a manual.
In a sports car, there is no way to beat having a manual shift. I know that I wouldn't want to drive one
every day
in stop and go traffic, but for any other driving, it's manual for me.
Please show me how you calculate that the "odds are against him"?
Certainly a small percentage of these motors seem to have problems but that's far from the odds being against him.
What is the problem with these motors?? I've seen my fair share of 996s go for sale with replaced engines, but i read the buyres guide here and it said engine failure wasn't very common. Is there any particular signs that show wether an engine is good or not or will need to be replaced?
I'm selling my '99 with a factory replacement motor (warranty included). 996's are a great deal now; 996's with new engines are really a steal! I've had to lower my selling price again. I say go for a well-kept early 996 (lightweight, still in good shape) with a new Porsche factory motor. You get all the modern performance and looks with an updated motor that'll be worry-free for years.
not worth the money it will cost you. headlights and signals and fogs alone will run you more than you can imagine, then fenders + bumper + paint, not going to be pretty. And you will likely accelerate depreciation. Buy an 05 997, really coming way way down.
996 is the BEST bang for the buck of any Porsche available. Don't let this bad engine talk discourage you. Avoid really low mileage cars, under 30K. If the engine has already been replaced, great, bonus for you. If the car is like mine, original engine with 64 K, also a safe bet. If the engine hasn't blow after 64K miles the odds are it's a good engine. Check out Excellence magazine Sept 2008 issue, it has a write up on the 996. You can easily get a sweet 1999-2001 996 ( 300 hp ! ) for under 24K. Sure some engines have failed, but many of these cars have been on the road 5 - 10 years already, the ones with bad engines have been replaced.
I'm not trying to stir the pot or push my car sale, but I still think the best deal is an early 996 with a new factory motor. I've got a couple of thousand miles on my new Suncoast factory motor and I have not been able to sell the car for $27K! My original engine went around 90K miles and it was a daily driver. It's still a bit of a gamble (and beware of the cheap rebuilds like MotorMeister). It's hard to put a dollar amount on piece of mind when it comes to your 911. Whatever you get though, you're gonna love it. 996's are wonderful!
That is a great decision to learn how to drive a manual. It is actually easier to drive a manual with a more powerful car vs a small 4 banger. You are going to love it.
I used to like tan interiors, until a friend of mine, that is very knowledgeable in cars
told me that the lighter interior colours do not age as well as the darker colours.
Whites and tans will show all the wrinkles dirt and wear marks.
They also look older sooner.
John
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