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In any case I am quit happy with my P38, it does however have annoying little issues, but after I replaced every part on the EAS system it works great now.
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At 50 years old, anticipating taking my 996 out for a few hours has replaced the feeling I used to have anticipating a hot date when I was younger.
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The more points you check off, the greater the requirement for a premium SUV.
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Sorry for going off the deep end - it just that if we all start misquoting each other, nobody will know what the heck anyone actually said unless they go back and check the original post word for word.
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Sorry for going off the deep end - it just that if we all start misquoting each other, nobody will know what the heck anyone actually said unless they go back and check the original post word for word.
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I'd have to check wikipedia for the modern definition of "friends" but back in the day when you spent thousands of dollars on your own birthday party for you and your "friends" we called those "friends" prostitutes.
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my recommendation, sir, is for you to stick with the rover, get the supercharged '08 in silver or black and put some clean multi-spoke 24" black center wheels on it.
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4) I don't think anyone's opinion (girls or guys) will change my decision in the end, but the topic sorta came up since the girls knew I was shopping for a new car.
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In any case I am quit happy with my P38, it does however have annoying little issues, but after I replaced every part on the EAS system it works great now.
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I don't even like it when someone edits someone else's words and puts "fixed it for you" - but at least that tells you someone mucked with it.
Been driving my 01 996 black tip for 5 years. I am seriously thinking about selling my 996 and getting a Ranger Rover (over another 2 seater Jag XK or M6) which will be driven as my daily driver. It will ultimately be my choice, but I have been asking 20 to 30 year old girls around me for thier opinions on guys with a 911 and a Range Rover.
Half the girls said they like the P cars, the other half just wasn't into sports cars. Younger the girls, the more they liked the P cars. The latter also mentioned stories about the relationship with size of the guys with P cars.
Surprisingly, no girls had anything bad to say about the Range Rovers. Most said thumbs up.
When I interviewed those people whose primary cars are SUV's such as X5, Cayenne, Navigator, Escalade, etc, they said that they like the comfort of their cars, but that their cars are not "exciting." Even after 5 years, the growl of my 996 puts a smile on my face every time.
Anyone here went from a 911 to a Range Rover? I think having both would be a perfect combo, and I am leaning towards keeping my 996 and get the Range Rover.
Cheers
I am currently in a transition period with my vehicles. For a short while, my wife and I have two Range Rovers and Two 911s. We love the Rovers (especially my wife). They are very comfortable and they definately have character. The 911 and Range Rover make for a great combination.
The 05 Range Rover I purchased at an insurance auction (same thing with the BMW). I have to sell a couple before we end up in the poor house. The BMW also makes a great companion for your 911... I see from your signature that you already know.
Have fun shopping.
ah man where do i start?
-get what you want
-chicks dig the rover cuz it hits on their maternal instincts and consciously/subconsciously see themselves driving their kids to school, practice, b-day parties
the rover is an appliance, the 911 is an experience. what i mean by this is the rover you're going to have to get the latest and greatest to get any sort of cred whereas the 911 993 and up get enough societal approval/ love regardless of whether you have the current 911 king 997 GT2 or a 993 c4s. just make sure you slam it on a set of nice wheels w/ an aerokit.
Hmm, the choice would depend on which factor you're trying to compensate for:
1) Baldness
2) "Equipment" size
3) Self-esteem issues
4) Vertically Challenged
5) Physical attractiveness
6) All of the above
The more points you check off, the greater the requirement for a premium SUV.
I think that you should do whatever the 20-30 year old girls tell you to do. They would obviously know which car you should buy because really, when its all said and done, as long as they are happy its all good. You shouldn't stop there either, they can also tell you how to drive the car they picked out for you and what to wear when you drive it too.
Mfletch,
Are you able to get near wholesale prices at the Insurance auctions? I have purchased my last few vehicles from someone who goes to the local auto dealers auctions. Wholesale prices for sure. Anything extra to watch for at insurance auctions? Would appreciate learning about it as it has almost become a hobby.
Thanks,
Andy t
UserA,
...what direction to turn, to chirp you are going to fast in your ear, where you are stopping to eat, what garden stores to stop at, what time she can go for a ride....sounds too much like marriage!
Very funny reply (yours).
You just can't beat having both options - a 911 and a LR
Covers all equipment sizes, levels of hair loss, attractiveness or otherwise, AND you get to do this!
Try doing that in a 996!
Probably doesn't impress the ladies but who gives a ....
Man this picture is unbelievable!
I'd have my pants full with only the front wheels in the water! Did you get wet inside the car?
My off-road experience for this year was getting stuck with my X3 on the beach in NC - that was already painful enough for me.
You will get lots of attention with either. Range Rovers used to be special, now they have that cheap look a like version out and that seriously brings down the respect it once had for being the ultra expensive SUV.
My last one a 2003 still had the BMW engine but the rest of it was all Ford. It had many problems with the gadgets. The alternator went on it with onther 50k on it and the interior pieces that were not leather wore terribly.
I also found the Range Rover to hard to park in tighter spots. It is to big and anytime you try to get back into it after being parked you only have a foot to slide in. Lucky the wife and I are skinny.
It attracts a lot of wierd losers looking for hand outs as well. I've been asked many times at the pumps to help them out but never in my 911.
It was stolen out of our driveway while my wife had it running and went it to get her water bottle and we replaced it with a Cayenne S. The Cayenne is much easier to drive, park and use every day. The back seat is within an arm's reach so you can put stuff back there and still get at it. The RR back seat was just way to far away and you would have to take your seat belt off and get half you body over the seat just to reach the back seat.
D*mn, as a short, bald, somewhat funny-looking guy I guess I should be driving a hummer
Personally, when you're just on the shy side of 50 as I am you find you long ago ceased caring with the ladies think, especially the 20-30 year olds. Besides, my wifes likes the Porsche and hates SUV's
OK, OK, so I guess I care what ONE lady thinks in particular.
- Nick
I always get a kick out of the range/land rover commercials where they are doing all sorts of off road stunts. I think I can safely say that roughly 1% of the owners will ever actually do this. I have always wanted one but the appauling quality drove me away. I think Land Rover has done a phenomenal job of marketing their vehicles. They sell adventure. My type of adventure is not whether or not my vehicle will fail while I am offroading.
ha ha appliance and experience analogy is so right. That's why having both will be so cool.
"Basically, a sports car is a car that has better road holding and performance than a standard two- or four-door passenger car (to say nothing of an SUV or pickup truck), thanks to a lower center of gravity, a more tightly tuned suspension and steering system, a performance-oriented transmission, finer aerodynamics, high-performance tires and a better power-to-weight ratio. This is why a sports car is plain fun to drive. A splendid Lexus or a limber Range Rover can be immensely satisfying, but a real sports car pastes a permanent smile on your face."
Quality may have been the case in the past though from what I have heard and my own experience it is not much of an issue. At least since 2005. We are on our second 2005 LR3 (first one totalled by our son a few weeks back, got worse, rear ended an '07 Mercedes G-Wagon which was also totalled! Double YIKES!). The only issue we have had was (besides software updates; 2) was a broken gas cap door broke. It has been an excellent vehicle and we consistently have gotten 19-21 MPG on the highway to boot.
Personally, I think my 2000 4 Wheel Drive Toyota Tacoma is as good an, if not better, off-road vehicle than a most luxo-SUVs, and that includes LR's. And all kidding about Hummers aside, they make lousy off-road vehicles on most of the trails around here.. too d*mn wide to fit on many of the mountain tracks.
- Nick
Good valid question.
1) I have already asked my guy friends, and of course most prefer the P cars. Married guys went for the Rover.
2) Because I am too greedy for both cars and can't decide on either
3) I'm 6'2" and feels the overall P car is small for me even though the interior fits me nicely, but the brand name/quality/engine sound/status symbol keeps me attracted
4) I don't think anyone's opinion (girls or guys) will change my decision in the end, but the topic sorta came up since the girls knew I was shopping for a new car.
5) I am still single and in 30's. One night during my trip to SF when I went to a club Vessel, I got curious about what other people thought about our P cars and R/R. Image is important. I live in L.A.
Heck, in the end, I might just get a new 997 S, and pick up the R/R after I am married, since I would need an "appliance car" as Benjamin Choi put it. 997 drivers in L.A. appear to be much younger than those in SL 550. I think it's because SL550 has softer ride. And I would probably want to stick it out with the P cars as long as I can handle its raw power & handling. I'll save SL550, CL500, Jag XK for my later years.
I'm sure the nickname probably sold more H2's to old guys in the vain hope that was actually true than any amount of advertising.
Whenever anyone appropriate asks, I tell them "Carrera" is actually spanish for "good roll in the sack," but so far that doesn't seem to have helped.
- Nick
I don't see a snorkel, there is no way that Discovery made it through.
I have two 911s and a Range Rover. The Range Rover is only used on weekend as the family truckster, driving baby and Costco runs.
The Range Rover is an amazing off road machine, even with standard tires I was able to go through just about everything but the mud pit....
The new MkIII does have updated body and headlights, but I was told is with unibody frame, thus not as strong as the old P38. In any case I am quit happy with my P38, it does however have annoying little issues, but after I replaced every part on the EAS system it works great now. Total cost of the repair were only $750, since I did the work myself and bought parts from ebay.
Oh yeah, almost forgot to mention. All my neighbors especially the wives love the Range Rover, and are always jealous that we have one. For some reason my wife can care less, loves driving her BMW 3 series.
I had the 06 sport SS and it was not much for the fun factor IMHO hence the change to the 02 , my wife has the 06 LR3
the LR3 is very nice to drive, good power, Not much less than the SS.
My sport SS had a leak in the air bag, and settled lower on the passenger side over night, and was leaning every morning. As soon as I started up and during driving times the compressor would keep it level, while the car was on.
My problem with this was the dealer could not find were the leak was coming from. They replaced that side? He said there are two many valves? so if I was not under warranty, that would of cost a pretty penny
I always wondered what it meant. Hey, wait. It's got multiple meanings... 1. Race 2. Racetrack 3. King's highway, etc, but no good roll in the sack.
When Porsche gave 911 the name Carrera, what definition did they have in mind, anyone?
Get both
Seriously if you don't need it to tow or haul stuff, why get an SUV?
The P-car is my "green" car. Gets better mileage is more fun, etc. etc. The Rover is great for towing boats and getting to the trailhead.
sorry dudes with the old school rovers, but that's a diff quality level and "bling" level than the current bodies. the issue as i had stated before with these appliances is that you always have to have the latest and greatest whereas with the 911, because it is timeless, people recognize regarldess of the model year to a certain extent.
the rover JJB and I care about are the new bodies, esp the supercharged ones that you see in newport beach, etc in droves. the ones you see in DIME, DUB, mTV rap videos, etc riding on 24s. i mean this is my generation of what "bling" is about and in my generation we never use the word "bling". it's usually the older guys who think they know the lingo that use it when in fact they are clueless.
sure i sound like i come off as an opinionated **** with this post, but that's the reality fellas for the author of this thread. my female friends in their 20s dig the new rovers because they want to someday be a milf riding on 24s (which is comedy).
Thanks, guess we're both partial to blue. Checked out your web pages -- nice pics of Letchworth -- I was there many years ago - my wife and both graduated from Cornell in '81.
Upstate NY is a beautiful area, especially this time of year.
- Nick
Um, you do know that the classic Rover was the only vehicle ever to be displayed at the Louvre as a work of modern art right?
The new Rovers are just Fords
I always laugh when I see anything over 18" wheels on an SUV, it completely negates the purpose.
Check out the new R/R body style with 24s. Image is totally different than that of the old body. Don't pay attention to the little braggart and all the add-ons, but the car itself is nice. Definitely has the snob appeal (but only with 24s), just like the P cars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0sS2uu6dBk
i'm not looking at your car and thinking man what a work of art. i'm thinking, that's an old rover. and purpose? lol 99% of these rovers spend 99% of their time on our lovely freeways and strip mall parking lots.
+1 - anyone who's actually done any real off-roading knows you want bigger sidewalls, not smaller, for compliance and traction when going over the rough stuff.
Big wheels on an SUV just screams poser.
- Nick
poser for what? what are you guys so afraid of? a car is an accessory, a luxury item esp high ticket items like the ranger rover, 911, etc. if someone chooses to roll an '07 rover sittin' on 24s, it's no worse or better than you guys who choose to go take your nice trips into the wilderness with it.
just don't put your old rovers that fetch $18K on the used car market to be in the same "bling" space as a new body. they're two different cars even if they share the same name. i'm not coming down on you guys about doing your wilderness thing - all i'm saying is per the author here and keeping him in mind, let's be real here. it's either a new body rover, a 911 996 or a new 997S. not your old fart rovers you keep posting pics of.
If you want women to approach you without you speaking to them first get the Range. If you want men to approach you without you speaking first get the Porsche.
So why buy a vehicle purpose built for going into the wilderness if you're not going to? To me, that's the very definition of poser - someone who spends big $$$ for capabilities they never intend on using.
Nothing wrong with posing, if that's what you want to do. If the OP wants to spend 6 figures and put 24" wheels on a Range Rover to cruise the wilds of LA, it's his money.
And I'll laugh whenever I see him go by.
- Nick
Well... if you compare it in that way, what about those people with Porsches who never race or take them on tracks. Isn't that poserly too? After all, P cars were built to race. I bet you half the people with P cars don't take em on racetracks. A bank director made a comment to me why I got a $99K sports car when I don't even race. I have been called a poser for that. Heck, I haven't even taken my 996 over 110 MPH. Do you take your P on the track?
This is why I said originally that 911s and late model R/R share similarities. I never accused those older people with grey hair driving a Ferrari or Aston Martins as posers, assuming they don't take em on tracks. They want a car they want, they paid for it, and that's the end of that. No poserly about it at all.
Nick,
We are near the same age too...Union College 1979....a few fraternity brothers and I drove to Bolder in winter of 78 to ski... had a ball.
Great quote from B. Russell....That is definitely the truth.
How did you get your picture posted in your signature? Every time I try it the upload wont take because of its size. Your's looks like a big file. What a picture. If you wouldn't mind can you send me a copy of it? thanks,
Andy T
it's just another accessory that puts a mark on you as being free and having fun. some chicks dig that, some chicks feel that they don't want to compete. in LA , chicks feel that vibe better than the girls up here is what i've observed.
but i will say i feel you on the LA scene thing. i actually celebrated my b-day at Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel over the weekend and had a blast hitting up les deux and area with my friends.
here's a pic of some of my "entourage" in the cabana
view from cabana suite (ez access to silicon)
Yep, I'm a poser, too
Though I'd have to point out a 911 is built for performance *on the road* - and that's precisely where I drive it. I'd probably never buy a GT3 RS, even I could afford one, 'cause the thing is basically built for the track, and I don't go there. And Land Rover is built for performance off the road - in fact, if it's a halfway decent off-road vehicle it's built with engineering compromises that actually hamper it's performance on road.
What else do you call it if you're buying a car specifically to impress? You're buying it to see and be seen in - in short, to pose in. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, if that's what you like to do with your money.
Wear your poser status proudly
- Nick
i dropped $2K at les deux for a table and then $1700 for the table at roosevelt. but hey, it's only $. my friends and I had fun.
the cabana was $750 a nite so right around bed prices.
here's some of my good people @ koi restaurant - great food and service
HEY
I never said that - you edited me - and that
PISSES ME OFF
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If you're gonna edit someone's posts, at least have the decency to indicate you edited it, with a "fixed it for you" or "edited it for you" tag line..
Otherwise, if we all go posting made up quotes from each other, than how do we know who the f*ck said what when?
- Nick
If you want to make your ***** bigger, just rub it a bunch. Trust me.
On a serious note, though, if you want a driver's car and don't mind the reduced practicality, just get the Porsche. Otherwise, while I can't claim to have any interest in Rovers, if that's the chosen alternative, go for it, I guess.
Also: cdodkin, your car looks great with those wheels!
Apology accepted..
Sorry for going off the deep end - it just that if we all start misquoting each other, nobody will know what the heck anyone actually said unless they go back and check the original post word for word. I don't even like it when someone edits someone else's words and puts "fixed it for you" - but at least that tells you someone mucked with it.
- Nick
Get a car or suv or whatever that YOU want but for christ sake don't buy it to impress girls...geez it's not that hard to get some loving and if you need a car to get some then you have problems.
pls guys - unless you're pullin chicks like kobe bryant/justin timberlake/bruce lee/50 cent (you get my drift) combined, if you're a healthy male, you'll naturally want all the assistance you can get. even the examples that are alive today roll big ballin' cars and believe me, they're doing it to look damn good in front of your sister, your wife, your girlfriend and you.
don't play too cool for school seriously
Sorry Ben but I don't. And yes I am NOT pulling chicks like kobe or justin I never claimed I was. To be honest I don't even tell people that I drive--uh drove--a Porsche and now that I own a Ferrari even less so. My current girlfriend actually thinks my Ferrari is more embarassing then anything else.
Whoa. Great party you got going there, Ben, with all the hotties.
I see that you are one of the few guys in the forum who are single like me, enjoying life to the fullest. When you get a chance, check out some of the K-Town clubs like Le Prive and Velvet Room.
Cheers.
It's all in the angle of dangle.....
If you look closely you'll see that the fast moving water in front of the Discovery is actually breaking over a submerged rock or two, so from the angle of the shot appears higher than the hood! (which it isn't)
The front end does have a bow wave up around it (which is normal) - you just need to manage the forward speed to avoid it washing over and drowning the engine intake.
Yes - you should have a snorkel if you do this often!
I know I've just burst the bubble on this shot - but you did ask!
Still a case of gripping the wheel and praying when you go in - easier when you follow another LR that makes it through of course!.
At 50 years old, anticipating taking my 996 out for a few hours has replaced the feeling I used to have anticipating a hot date when I was younger. Sad but true. Could be worse though...I could have not found the absolute thrill I get from taking my 996 out !!!!
Are you an ex-submariner?
"Angles and Dangles" is the term we used when we did hard manuevers with large angles to shake the boat out and see if it was rigged for sea. Fun stuff, and I never heard that term outside of the Navy..
I have a buddy that used to live his life in a 'sardine can' back in the day.....
Thought I'd share this bow-wave picture to better illustrate how the 'angle of dangle' could lead you to believe the LR was submerged, when it's actually progressing nicely - all ahead, steady as she goes...
And FWIW - I have no problem with urban folks and soccer mums driving around in LRs - It gives me more choice when I'm picking up a used one 3 years down the line for pennies on the dollar!
And I can pretty much guarantee the only 'offroad' action has been mounting the curb outside of costco.... LOL
Another old fart here, we just sold the old bitch's P38 DSE and replaced it with an 03 X5. I'm perfectly happy with the X5 but my wife still regrets the P38.
+1! I can't believe some of the asinine crap in this thread. Ben thinks he's on the set of Entourage when it's more like 21 Jump street.
Just another example of people dumbing down. The whole image thing is facile and obvious. Wakey wakey...
No bubbles busted, that's was still an awesome move on your part regardless.
The deepest water/mud I got my Range Rover in was to the bottom of door sill with extended ride height. That's about as deep I want to get stuck in. LOL!
It's good to have money and the things that money can buy, but it's good, too, to check up once in a while and make sure that you haven't lost the things that money can't buy. ~George Horace Lorimer
Well I did a little experiment and Ben is right, my old Range Rover doesn't make it w/ladies anymore.
First I dropped off our youngest at school w/the P-car. All the MILF's w/their Priuses and Camrys were giving me the eye and smiling at me. I even got a, "Nice Car!" Status kills galore ( luckily no parents have a 997 ).
Then I went home and jumped in the Rover and drove our oldest to school, not one look from the MILFs. And there's this old bald dude in an Escalade rolling on 24"s, blasting Jay-Z, who was getting tons of looks.
When I test drove it, I didn't think the new Rover was worth the $50k more to trade up before, but now I've seen the light. I'm just a tired old fart, in a tired old Rover. I need to upgrade to regain my "playah" status before I'm 40. No wonder my trophy wife doesn't bring her friends home to play in the hot tub w/us anymore. She's probably making it w/our Puerto Rican gardner.
LOL she'd go as far as getting embarrased? Wanting something is not as desirable as owning one. How do you handle all that bitchin? Can't live with it every day. Gotta choose one over the other when you settle down with her, it seems like. So you made your point that you got a Ferrari cuz you want it, even if your gf doesn't like it and even gets embarrased by it. Previously, I made a statement that in the end, I will end up getting what I want, regardless of what other people say. If people weren't so much interested what girls really thought about cars we drive, I wonder why so many guys read this thread to begin with. All of us were curious
When I got my first 996 5 years ago, all the girls wanted a ride in it. After a few runs, they don't like the rough ride and didn't want me to bring out the P but other comfortable cars where ingress/egress were easier than the P. When one of them got a chance to drive it after I got wasted one night, she understood why people fall in love with it ha ha
yo dog we need to start our own lil rennlist crew. some people got it, some just don't.
let me know how you do in LA. i'm going to be down there this month to party over a weekend again.
So Playahs, what should I trade the old Rover in on to get the ladies?
Would they like a new Rover or an Escalade better?
Any other SUVs good for pimpin' hoes and status kills?
my recommendation, sir, is for you to stick with the rover, get the supercharged '08 in silver or black and put some clean multi-spoke 24" black center wheels on it.
to send a message across to your lovely Washingtonians, order up the custom plates and they should read:
ROBBANQ
I swear you guys just don't get it. Playa's don't spend $$, baller's do.
Figure out what you want roll you want to play. LOL!
Rovers cost more so that is what the women will prefer.
i try to have fun as much as possible down here, but more responsibilities comes w age, even though i'm still single. partied up in SF last weekend at a club Vessel. gonna be in Spokane WA for a hotel deal and need to check out what attractions there are. check out the Korean night clubs in LA if you haven't been to one already. it's mind boggling how they set you up with the girls. enjoy LA. look forward to more pics of your "entourage"
cheers
Exactly right.
I'd vote for the Range Rover Supercharged that has a window sticker $99K. With some nice options, it could quickly get to $120K and over, like the one I just saw at the South Bay. I liked Escalades for a while, but then the snob appeal, sorta like in your face FU doesn't last as the R/R. Probably because the Escalades and all other SUVs lack the class, heritage, sophistication of the R/R.
u know how the 'rest' do it? they're diseased, broke and hungry. i would hardly call western europe the "rest of the world."
speaking of western europe, i spent the majority of october vacationing there. i was there last year as well and spent a lot of time backpacking post-university all over the westside.
based on my personal experience, life is simpler there. people are skinnier which makes americans look even fatter. you see a lot of diesel cars and hatchbacks and mopeds. it's not nearly as convenient as the US and A. and luxury/toy car ownership is better here than there.
with that said, my favorite city thus far is barcelona. i could live there. i don't care for rome. london is great, but the climate is too similar to seattle's.
sorry for the tangent.
there's more to be said, but i'll keep that **** to myself.
Sweet, tanks mang
Look for me cruising 1st Ave. thumpin' out Kanye West.
Whistle tips too?
They go Woo Woo!!
Dem beeeeeatches be comin' fo' meh riches!!!!
LOL Bubb Rubb is a classic!
What's even funnier is that some people in this thread are actually serious.
I would be totally embarrassed to pretend to be a playa, or gangsta, or whatever they are pretending to be.
I'd have to check wikipedia for the modern definition of "friends" but back in the day when you spent thousands of dollars on your own birthday party for you and your "friends" we called those "friends" prostitutes.
This thread helps prove the my theory that the larger the rims on the car, the bigger the douche behind the wheel.
If your car gets you to the holy grail I suggest you proceed the act with a good disinfectant (perhaps a toilet brush and some bleach) because undoubtedly the entrance you seek sees more traffic than the Lincoln Tunnel.
But I guess when you "roll a big ballin' car" you really are as special as you think you are and I'm sure she's really being truthful when she tells you that you are her first.
Where did I call Western Europe the rest of the world? And your comment about the rest of the world being "diseased, broke, and hungry" is laughable. There are a number of cities around the world that rank more highly than any U.S. city in standard of living indexes. You might have "game" among the hoes in Tacoma, or whever you're situated, but that same game-style would garner you endless ridicule in Paris.
Nobody cares about SUVs, because let's face it, they're wasteful and they are ****ty vehicles to drive. There's also a greater appreciation for culture and the fine arts among the general populace.
Benjy, if you pretend any harder, you're going to break something...I can feel you straining all the way down under. Let go and breathe a little. Stop trying so hard.
I'm a blank canvass, teach me the ways of the pimp. One caveat though, if you tell me I have to get an arm band tattoo and pose in a wife beater tee shirt so that I can post a cool avatar I must decline. But if I find a way to shed myself of every shred of dignity you'll certainly be my first call.
Go to Myspace.com and look for a guy named Tom, he'll be your friend. The level of sincerity will be the same as it is with your "friends" but at least he's free. Try not to be yourself though. You dont want to be known as the guy that was rejected by Tom.
wahahahhaah keep sippin on that haterade, bud. while we're on myspace, look for 993cabmom. blog about the kid who's got what u don't have and want to have, but you'll never admit to it. she might show you love or show you nothing at all which it sounds like you're used to.
I dont understand what your saying. If someone has a douchebag to english dictionary I can borrow I can respond.
Hear that telephone ringing? That's 1995 calling wanting their tattoo back.
I think it's him. But if its not and he has been acting like an idiot and posting goofy pictures just for fun I'd have to give him credit for being original.
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Easy there, his name is "Ben". Fair game to consider his avatar silly if you want, but at least call him by his name.
This thread has gone way down hill. Ben, certainly brought some of this on himself, but the "pile-on" is going a little over the top.
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Wow, look how my thread turned out. Missed a couple of pages there. I put up the thread to get a poll, not to start an internet name labeling contest. If you guys don't like someone's post, someone spending their money on girls/guys/escorts, guys buying cars to get chicks, then just move on with your lives, whatever the heck it is you do in the daytime. If this were a 997TT forum, it'll be a different story.
just as i had predicted - a bit of racism, a bit of accusing people's friends that they don't know of being prostitutes when in fact they're quality people. and by complete and total strangers to me.
only if you cowards could say this stuff in person
Was it your moronic side of your brain that attracted you to this "moronic" thread? Just keep on crawling by to the next thread, dude. Nobody put a gun to your head to read it.
They may well be quality people. Their chosen profession does not necessarily make them bad people. Although in this case I would question their choice of clientele.
just as we question your choice of 911s... plastic window and weakish engine and all
and rennlist members, it's such a coward move to sling arrows at strangers esp when they're sittin behind a computer screen/keyboard without a face to the name. check out the weak sauce.
While I don't always agree with some of the things Ben writes on Rennlist, he is entitled to his opinion. Yes, he plays the “playa” card a little too often for my taste, but so what? There is absolutely no reason to bring sarcastic and derogatory remarks about race, color, or any other generalizations into the mix.
JJB236 - Please,
PLEASE close this thread
! It will only continue to deteriorate.
You could say the same thing about my post, cupcake. If the thread had been titled "Racists and posers working out their sad little issues on the internet," I wouldn't have.
WTF is your problem?
JJB, Bruce...
JJB, bruce is actually a cool dude here. i respect him and would totally buy him some beers or whatever he chooses to drink and sit down to learn from him.
Bruce, JJB sounds like a cool guy so let's just say cheers.
girl? unless they drive a porsche or ferrari, i have no interest in carrying them in my p cars. what a waste. they pick me up in a bimmer or amg black series, otherwise, i rather not waste my time.
It's a rather low-level of game if you need to rely on status objects to pull women, don't you think?
The hunt is the most enjoyable aspect. But that requires brains.
Thank you Mark for the translation.
Sadly it appears as though you've hit a brick wall with respect to witty retorts slung my way. I sense a "jerk store" insult in my future.
It was all in fun. If you should see me "pimpin'" in my slow *** 993 with the scratched window give me a wave. And if I should see you "rollin on 24s" flashing that rug burn you call a tattoo with your ladies (and men) of the evening, I'll do the same.
if i see you driving top down in the pouring rain i'll assume that finicky top failed on you again and give you a ride. and it's clear as day in this thread that you resorted to coward levels by calling a rennlist member's friends prostitutes - real witty aint it fellas? totally uncalled for.
but i can see you like to hate on people who like to show off some of their "fun" which is somewhat interesting since you drive a sports car... a convertible sports car.
and dude, them range rovers, escalades ridin' on 24s... just imagine what they're thinking looking at internet insult slanger "john-'96 993 cab" in a cute liil convertible on what looks to be rollin' on 13s... and all this the tx! LOL
These things are always about intent. It's not that there is anything pejorative about calling someone Asian. It's that the person involved consciously chose to do this rather than use the guy's name, which you can't miss on the thread. It was a decision to reduce the poster to his ethnicity. A bit dehumanizing. He might not have meant it that way, but given the web's conversational limitations, and the generally abusive tone of the thread, that's how it came across.
and i totally agree. in the context of using a rover for off-road use, using the older version makes more sense since the new ones are more car-like than any other range rover that preceded it. but dont come in here within the frame of teh conversation started by the author that his idea of a range rover is the same as your old range rover covered with mud.
my point about 24s and such is that it's cool too. a range rover is a luxury vehicle. no one needs leather piping and air suspensions. but all that stuff makes the city drive much more comfortable. all that expensive wood makes it prettier. and so do 24s. while i don't agree image is everything (agassi), i do believe it has its space in life. we drive a 911, fellas. image counts.
fyi, i drive a 1999 jeep cherokee more than i drive the 911. if i was so into image for the sake of image, i'd sell both cars and get myself a freakin' westminster range rover on $12K 24" wheels myself. yet i love the jeep and would never sell it. it's bulletproof and going offroading is fun in its own way.
and i love that my avatar gets so much attn. i did it on purpose. as to the reasons why? you can guess, but you'll never really know and if you care that much ... u need to find something to do. but it's obvious it sniffs out a certain type of person.
Ha ha ha no problem. I was merely trying take a poll on this forum. There is nothing wrong with asking my own friends and total strangers on the forum about my next set of cars, is there? I never posted on forums until recently, and this whole thing of attacking people via posting is just too funny.
I guess I got frustrated since this thread took a wrong turn. Sorry if you got offended
Cheers
Out of about 100 customer reviews on Range Rovers and other LR model, about 1/3 said they had numerous visits to the dealers and some have returned their cars to the manufacturers on lemon laws. Forbes listed all Land Rover models as one of the ten least reliable cars.
Yet, I see loyal and repeat LR models. What gives? Is the reliability issue with British cars true or are they trying to make it exclusive for those who have time, patience, and extra money for frequent visits to the dealers?
Cheers
They had/have a QC problem. Now that Ford bought them I'd be even more leery. There are good ones and bad ones, I got a good one; 120k miles, still going strong, and it's barely been in the shop ( knock on wood ). If you take them it to a dealer they'll rape you. I've had them say I needed $1k worth of work on the EAS, took it to my indy and he cleared the faults for $20. I went through three Jeeps before I got the Rover, the Rover is built like a tank compared to the Jeeps. It's an incredible highway cruiser, goes off road like nobody's business - sucks in the twisties and on gas.
Here's the 411 on Land Rover's rep:
1. Pre-BMW, reliability was atrocious, especially where electrics were concerned. The reputation hasn't caught up with improved trucks.
2. Many dealers are bandits, even for car dealers. Rovers leak. My Disco has had a seeping head gasket for five years. My dealer says, "No worries. There's eight litres of oil in there. If you see coolant, you've got a problem." But many dealers would relieve you of $2,000 for new ones. And that's just one seal. People who are used to driving modern cars freak out at a spot on the driveway, and dealers take advantage. But that Rover engine was designed by Oldsmobile circa 1964 ...
This fact alone creates the impression that these trucks are constantly at the dealers', constantly needing expensive attention. I bet a huge percentage of that perception has its roots in abuse by dealers.
3. You have GOT to maintain them religiously. If things need fixing, they tend to stay fixed, but you can't let stuff go. But it's amazing how reliable they are if you just follow the sched. Do this, and they will never strand you.
But, get service records for any you think you might want to buy. You'll know instantly if it was one of the infamous Monday trucks.
4. The RRs and heavily optioned Discos with SLS and ACE had particular problems with those features. Avoid them on Discos, accept it on the RR if you want one badly enough. I love that P38A, but this fact alone keeps me out of one.
On the other hand...
The Disco is the only vehicle I've ever owned on which a woman left a note on the windshield. (My fiancee/now-wife called her back. Funny story).
On the rare occasions it's clean, it still gets parked in the front row by valets.
It's one tough truck. Solid axles, three diffs and a two speed transfer case. Like a Jag bolted on top of a tractor. I've pulled more so-called SUVs out of ditches up by my country place than I can count. It's the real deal, if that matters to you.
It has an authentic personality. Not a numb poser minivan in disguise like so many SUVs. If you 'get' Porsches, you might just 'get' Land Rovers.
Bottom line: If you really want one, there's little to be afraid of if you shop with some care and find a fair, competent mechanic .
I owned a Defender and can tell you that heritage and looks aside, it was a rolling turd, even in '97. We're talking, rusting bolts on the body work, window cranks falling off, leaking fluids everywhere and inoperable heater controls-all within the first year of ownership. Most pre BMW products were very off-road capable, provided you take an enitre spare parts trailor in tow. Needless to say I sold tyhe beast a year 1/2 later to some sucker who paid me 8K more than I did new.
So after figuring time heals all wounds, I bought an LR3. It's been absolutley trouble free. The fact that Ford owns them actually encouraged me to buy. There's areason why you still see a lot of f-series pickups on the road by the way. For others confusing Land/Range Rovers with other SUV's out there-the one thing to remember is that they are built on a frame AND have unibody contruction. Very different from all the "cross-overs" out there. This makes a huge difference in off road capabilites (and yes-I thrash mine around shamelessly), towing and ride quality. Just my 2 cents-
If all you care about is women...
I asked a 40 year old woman this same question. What do you think about
:
Corvette: "Mid-life crisis"
Porsche: "Too much money"
Jaguar: "Oooooooohhhhh..."
I thought she was going to have an orgasm right there and then. Women do like Jaguars...
HTH,
Michael
Can't believe that the marketing engine has the US consumer lined up for these Jags.
In the UK they are 'old lady' cars - but hey, that's marketing for you!
Did you ever see Top Gear. They say it is an "Old Man's Car", so not an old ladies car. But in England they think they are a bit frumpy. They have a different rep here in the states. I believe Mercedes gets the "Old-Mans" wrap also.
I like the look of the XKR, just wouldn't buy one.
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Here is another one of your classics threads, a top three favorite of mine. Could you please go on one of your rampages again and close this one as well?
Thanks
