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Check grounds and still no fire

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I've checked all the grounds and still no fire.

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Test starter and it seemed

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We tested the Starter and it seemed to be fine.

HELP! 996 Dead b/f race weekend

Check voltage between pins 2 & 7

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Check for voltage between pins 2 & 7 on the start lock relay socket (relay #7 on relay support #2, located on the same shelf as the DME, but more on the driver's side) as you are attempting to crank.

HELP! 996 Dead b/f race weekend

Replace plug, not

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Turns out I had loosened the ground wire while changing a plug, not disconnected, just loosened.

HELP! 996 Dead b/f race weekend

Replace relay (which looked perfectly fine)

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When we replaced the old relay (which looked perfectly fine) with a new one, the car would still not start.

HELP! 996 Dead b/f race weekend
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Check grounds and still no fire

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I've checked all the grounds and still no fire.

HELP! 996 Dead b/f race weekend

Check voltage between pins 2 & 7

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Suggestion

Check for voltage between pins 2 & 7 on the start lock relay socket (relay #7 on relay support #2, located on the same shelf as the DME, but more on the driver's side) as you are attempting to crank.

HELP! 996 Dead b/f race weekend

Replace plug, not

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Turns out I had loosened the ground wire while changing a plug, not disconnected, just loosened.

HELP! 996 Dead b/f race weekend

Replace relay (which looked perfectly fine)

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When we replaced the old relay (which looked perfectly fine) with a new one, the car would still not start.

HELP! 996 Dead b/f race weekend

Test starter and it seemed

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We tested the Starter and it seemed to be fine.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ok Experts, this is my situation. I took my '99 996 off the trailer, disconnected the battery and stripped a little more of the interior out (nothing more than carpet). After about a week, I connected the battery back up (plenty of charge) and attempted the start the car back up. All the lights on the dash lit up but the engine would not fire or crank. I tried a couple of times but no luck. After having a couple of local Porsche mechanics come over to test everything, this is what we found; All fuses are fine. No problems with the Battery & Clutch Switch. We tested the Starter and it seemed to be fine. Then we tested the Ignition Switch and there was plenty of power coming in and going out of the Ignition Switch. Then we tested the Ignition Switch Relay and as is turns out, there is plenty of power going into the relay but no power going from the Ignition Swich Relay back to the Starter. When we replaced the old relay (which looked perfectly fine) with a new one, the car would still not start. For some reason, the contact within the relay was not engaging on either the new relay or the old one. When we manually engaged the relay, the car fired right up. Now, we are stumped as to why the Ingition Switch Relay is not engaging. Does it have to do with one of the four wires that goes into the relay or is it a simpler or harder problem than that? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have a race this weekend that I would like to compete in but I need my car to start first. After that, everything is ready to go! Help Rennlisters!

POST 2Original post

Sounds like a grounding issue - if the relay has power but won't trigger, the ground could well be suspect.

POST 4Original post

Quotes source post: 5149258

Agreed. While removing the carpetting you may have broking a ground wire or disrupted it's connection.

POST 5Original post

Rich, Did you get your answer on what gear to use in the bus stop in? I watched the video and it looks like I was in 3rd. Nice to see you in Sebring. Get that car running! Jim

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Sorry, I was actually talking to Bluemaxxracing.....it bears a striking resemblance to mine....

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And I was supposed to notice that!

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Cam, Thanks! Yours is not too bad either I thought I was the only one to have this avatar too! As or my problem, I will be getting a diagram of all my ground spots this evening. I have re-tightened down all the ones I can find but I know there is more. Hopefully that is my problem. Any other suggestions! Doug, where is the alarm box? That isn't in the same location as the Airbag sensor, is it? Otherwise, I don't think I removed it.

POST 10Original post

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The alarm box is under the driver's seat. Check for voltage between pins 2 & 7 on the start lock relay socket (relay #7 on relay support #2, located on the same shelf as the DME, but more on the driver's side) as you are attempting to crank. If you don't have voltage there, something is convincing the DME that you're not allowed to start the car.

POST 11Original post

I had the same issue. Turns out I had loosened the ground wire while changing a plug, not disconnected, just loosened. Once I tightened it back, she fired right up!!

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Pat - do you remember which ground wire got loosened?

POST 13Original post

did you say you removed the airbag control unit?

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Update: still nothing! I've checked all the grounds and still no fire. It is definitely the Starter Relay. It is not triggering and we can not figure out why? Anyone have any more possibilities? flankenspeil - yes, I took out the airbag sensor when I stripped the car a few months ago and it ran fine with it out. Doug - yes, I took out the alarm box when I changed to a racing seat 2 years ago. No problem there.

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