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BTW Eric, my stalking incidents hockey-sticked immediately after I installed bumper plugs.
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When I was 22 I went to buy an E36 M3 and couldn't get the salesman to come back after he went to supposedly run my credit.
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- I suppose my kids in the back probably didn't help...
I'm a relative new owner, and while I fully expected attention, things are a bit over the top at times.
After a month of ownership, I've had countless people come up to me at gas stations and drool, asking all sorts of questions. Comments like "Totally badass car man!"
I've had young women take double, triple takes, and some stare. A bank teller told me I am a tease. When I asked for clarification, she said that I'm married, and driving that car was 'just not right.'
I was paced by an R32 right off my rear bumper in the left lane for miles while he held up passing traffic.
Bringing it back from Fl, I had two girls roll up next to me at 80mph in the left lane, roll down the window, and scream "I LOVE YOUR CAR", while blowing kisses. Also coming back from Fl, I had two older gents in a caddy roll up at a gas station, asking me every question they could think of. When we left, they demanded that we leave together, them ahead, and I roll past them on the highway at high speed. I did, at about 100 mph, and got two out the window thumbs up from two 70+ gents laughing their butts off.
It's crazy sometimes. I tell my wife
I'm a rock star
. LOL.
You guys get the same sort of thing?
Oh yeah - all the same stuff... the best was a very attractive model type outside of the W hotel in Union Square come over to me and say "that's the sexiest car I've ever seen"... it's all good
Absolutely the same thing happens to me. My last Pcar was silver, and it drew attention, but nothing like my present one. (SY what can I say?) I have never been asked out so many times on a date by complete strangers. I never thought the gas station was a pick up place...who knew?
Dates, dinners, a few marriage proposals...funny...the one guy whom I WANT to ask me...hasn't...what's up with that? I guess since he has the same car...he isn't impressed.
I've had similar experiences. I haven't had my car long (only have about 8 k miles on the car), but I've had three occasions where I gave girls I didn't know rides in my C4S. The two stories worth telling are:
1. On St. Patrick's Day weekend, also known as Scranton Pennsylvania's Mardi Gras, I drove my car through the city to see what people were doing and I had two girls run up to the car and ask for a ride which I gave them.
And 2. I had a girl follow me for a while, then she pulled up along side of my car and yelled out 'nice car!', (since she was good looking) I asked her if she wanted a ride (if she was ugly I'd have just said thanks) and so she pulled over and got in and I took her for a ride. She was 29, blonde and had a sexy hour glass type figure, her body was like Britney Spears but not nearly as toned. We went for the ride and talked for a while. She seemed very interested in me and called me a few times (like every day for the next three days- hey Porsches are rare in this neck of the woods) but then changed her mind because as it turns out she had a boyfriend (that she never mentioned before) and thought she could leave him (because he treats her bad) but then realized that she couldn't (because she likes it [I guess]). No big loss though, I mean, who really wants to get involved with someone that follows you because you have a nice car? She probably did me the biggest favor of my life.
This is possible because I sort of have an honest face and live in a very low crime area, I mean I doubt someone would get in my car if I drove through New York City. (What a tool a Porsche would be for a serial killer, too bad for them but good for us that they're usually broke. lol.)
From the posts so far, it sounds like it ought to be called "the C4S effect" (btw, has anyone had a similar experience in a Cayenne ...?).
When my 24 year old beautiful blonde girlfriend drives my C4S around (pauses, to don extra protection firesuit), the attention she gets is unreal (and very funny, especially from guys).
About ten years ago my wife and I were westbound toward Memphis from Nashville in our 78 Targa (top stowed, of course). Noticed a car was staying close by and when I pulled in to refuel the car followed and the three southern cuties inside said that only wanted to tell us how much they liked the car.
Seems I can't refuel the 01 C4 without someone wanting to ask questions and basically just admire the car.
But then back in 63 the same kind of thing often happened with my new T-bird.
I haven't had the girls track me down yet, I've only had the car a month, but I have gotten the occasional 'nice car!' in passing. Typically I get the, "how did you get a car like that?" I can only assume it's because I must not look old enough to afford one.
However, I was at the gas station a few days ago and there was a woman on the other side of the same pump talking on her cell phone. When I opened the gas door she says, "that is so cool! I've never seen that before." I just smiled. Then I hear her say on the phone, "I just saw the coolest thing! There is a guy here in a Camaro and the gas door is up front." I'm not sure how she came up with Camaro, especially since she could only see a little bit of the car. Part of me was a little irritated and then again I just had to laugh.
Nazz
I'm not sure how she came up with Camaro, especially since she could only see a little bit of the car.
I had a neighbor mstake the "Carrera" script on the decklid for "camaro"........
P.S. you guys aren't going to tell my girlfriend that I took those girls for rides? I mean, I never checked with her but she'd probably say that I'm not allowed to give bimbos rides. lol
God it's quiet here in the sticks......
The only girl who I picked up for a free ride was an 18 year old who'd just put her Ford Fiesta on it's roof in a ditch in the rain. - I was first on the scene. - Gave her a lift home (about 4 miles) and she bled all over my seat.
Didn't get a ****. - I suppose my kids in the back probably didn't help...
Also one of my female friends and I stopped at a convenient store so she could get cigarettes (which I only let her smoke with the sunroof open and the windows down) and a young guy (about 18) who was hanging out at the convenient store runs up to us as we pull in and says 'is that a GT2' and so I told him that it was a C4S and he said it was his dream to go for a ride in a 911, so after my friend got her cigarettes I gave him a ride. I told him that I only give 'fast rides' and basically took him on a full speed quarter mile and back because as an unofficial spokesperson for Porsche (like that guy on the Wendy's commercials) I want people to go away impressed.
Ok, but if, no, make that when, a nice looking girl says 'nice car' be prepared to offer her a ride. You've got nothing to lose and she'll probably say 'yes'.
How old are you? When I bought my new car I was 29 and the people at Wyoming Valley Motors didn't even want to talk or give me a price since I looked young, so I bought the car from a different dealer. Not being able to identify a customer is a real disadvantage to a salesperson. lol
About 2 years ago I went on a drive with fellow PPBBers in my '00 Box S in the hills around Whittier, a suburb of Los Angeles, that has a combination of well-to-do, and in all honesty a few gang-bangers.
There was about 5 of us, and I had the responsibility of covering our "six." During a drive through town, we picked up a tail in a pretty beat up car. Uh oh, hopefully they are not packing.
We made it through town and began to rip it up on this dead-end canyon road and our tail obviously disappeared in our dust. We turned around and as we were going down the canyon the tail ended up being three young latinas who were driving recklessly trying to catch us.
I stopped and politely warned them that they needed to be careful. One of the girls thanked me and asked "Are you secret service men?"
I almost asked them to join us for dinner because we had a few single guys in the group!
Well, there are probably a lot of 911s in the bay area and they aren't as unusual in some of the poor areas of the country (like where I live) so people are used to them and don't pay them as much attention. Or maybe people do look but you just don't notice.
I'm in the country with a relatively lower income average. Owning a car like this is a little over-the-top and I typically try to keep a low profile when I drive it. Very few of my acquaintances even know that I have it. I do get an awful lot of looks through town, though. I have one of the nicest cars around. There is a TT and a GT2 in town, but I rarely see them. Other than that, my car is nicer than the other 996's I've seen in town (maybe 4 or 5, total).
I've been asked "Do you have trouble staying married with a car like that"? That and people tend to treat me differently. Some people avoid eye-contact! As if I'm off-limits in some way? I can't explain it.
The "nice car" comment in passing was from a guy. No ride offered.
I'm near thirty but I hear that I look 25 all the time, with the occasional 22. When I was 22 I went to buy an E36 M3 and couldn't get the salesman to come back after he went to supposedly run my credit. I left and bought a car elsewhere that same night.
When she is riding w/ me, my wife is simultaneously amazed and amused by the number of people from across the demographic spectrum that flat out stare and point at my car (she's not reading this, so I can say "my car"
). I am pretty much oblivious to the gawking as I tend to be channeled into the driving and avoiding all of the idiot drivers here in Florida. I've not had any particularly interesting exchanges w/ hottie wannabes at gas stations; once the car's not rolling and I'm out of my seat, anyone else's fantasy is summarily harshed by the cold light of day. The car's the star, baby!
Kirby, if you really feel like you're not getting the respect that a mod-luvin' playa such as yourself deserves, just pimp on some of that blue neon undercarriage lighting and a fat exhaust to your ride and you'll be on the receiving end of as much attention as you can stand!
Jeff
Although I've owned my C4S for just a few days, I noticed that my car seems to bring out agressive tendencies in some teenagers. I especially notice this when the kid is with his girl friend. It's like he wants to prove his manlyness by showing her that he can hold his own with a Porsche. This behavior has occurred three times this week, maybe it's a bad week for kids on their summer vacation, and I ignored it on two occassions.
One time I must confess that I sucummed to temptation. I was being tail gaited by a kid in a new 350Z, and when I pulled off the expressway down a long and winding exit ramp, I couldn't help but really push my car hard. The exit ramp speed limit is 45 and I was going a little over 80 with no problem whatsoever. About half way down the exit I took a look at my rearview, and the poor kid was in a nasty slide. It must have scarred the hell out of him because when I slowed down as I came to the end of the ramp, I looked back and noticed that the kid had reduced his speed considerably as he continued his ride down the ramp. Maybe the kid now knows that his 350Z is no match for a C4S, at least down a winding ramp.
Porsches are somewhat rare in my town (especially 911's) so I get lots of comments and stares. However, they have decreased since I got the artic silver 996. The Speed Yellow 993 had people chasing me down girls asking me out, etc. The color definitely attracts. Which actually contributed to me selling the car. I wanted to start driving it on a daily basis and I just couldn't have friends and co-workers saying...."I saw your car at ___________ last night" constantly. The silver blends much better. My wife is still amazed and amused at the effect either of the 911 has on kids. She jokes that she understands now that my stories of wanting a Porsche since I was 8 are probably true.
One of my business partners has 4 children. The oldest, 13, is really interested in sports cars. My partner did not tell him about my C4S, and we plan to pick him up at school in front of all his friends. Mind you, this is their first week back, and we will do the slow roll at the middle school and wait for him to come out.
I expect lots of gawking from his friends. Hopefully he'll get a bit of mileage out of getting picked up in a pimp ride. Maybe make him a rock star for a day.
These things are two a penny here, so the only people who notice are the occasional other Porsche driver (though most won't acknowledge you at all) and maybe a nod from a 360 owner at a gas station. There are "cool" places in Chicago where P-cars are so common you would stand out more if you drove a Camry...
Clearly if you "wear" your Porsche for the designer label effect in Chi-town you're going to be disapointed.
Ever notice that as P-car drivers we don't get to see the outside of the car as we are driving down the road (unless something really bad has just happened).
The other day I switched cars with my buddy so I could move a couch with his truck. As he passed me in my car I was thinkin' DAMN!
Then I BECAME THE STALKER.
I can't tell you how many times someone has wanted to race me. The funniest story is that when I first got my car and the car was still in the break in period I had a approximately ten year old mustang try to race me on a long straight and practically deserted highway. I didn't want to go much over 4,000 RPM (since that's what it says in the owner's manual and I always follow rules, lol, except speed limits, since that's what this post is about), so I went a little over 4,000 RPM in 6th gear which worked out to be 100-110 MPH and I buried the guy. He probably had a V-6 mustang and not one of the larger engine Mustangs (like the 390 HP Mustang SVT which I also dragged and beat but that's a different story) because his car was humorously shaking trying to keep up.
It was interesting to me to watch the body language of two teenage boys standing by their cars at the convenient store talking to a beautiful and I mean beautiful blonde girl. They were next to their Eclipses with rear wings and aftermarket rims with their shoulders back like proud peacocks until I pulled in with my brand new, at the time, C4S and their shoulders immediately dropped and they started looking at the ground. I felt kind of bad since I probably ruined things for them with the girl.
It's always M3 drivers who want to race me.
It's almost as if they all wanted, but could not afford a 911 and now want to show that their weapon of choice is just as quick (which they are!)
Been carved up many a time
My son just started 9th grade as a freshman in H.S. I pick him up from school and we carefully plan on things so that I NEVER pick him up in the P-car. All the other kids would really give him a hard time, calling him "rich kid", whatever. Most of the kids in his school come from lower income familes and the last thing he wants is to be THAT different. It wouldn't make him a Rock Star, it would make him feel very uncomfortable.
His friends, on the other hand, have all gotten the "rock star" smile when I've given them rides in it. People just love the car!
We did buy him a Mini Cooper S that we are building up for his first car, and that will probably be the nicest car in his student parking lot when he starts driving it (a year and a half away). There's a new Dinan ECU download that the Mini dealer got in that will work nicely with the other mods we're doing. I love driving the Mini and so does my wife!
Fortunately, I am not his dad. . .just a *seemingly* rich friend of the family. So, hopefully no 'rich kid' inferences would be associated with my picking him up.
Why would you give your child a modded car as their first car? Not only would the temptation be too great to speed, everyone needs a beater as their 'learn to drive' car.
Well, that's a good question. I have an '81 Ford F-250 4x4 that is our farm/work truck. THAT will be his first vehicle he drives. We are building the Mini for him for fun and he will get it when he is ready to get it. He gets straight A's, won science fair last year and is a really great kid (turning into a young man). He is well aware of what it is going to take to finally receive the mini. He is pretty aware of speed and such, he's been racing motocross for years (and now he can beat me, damnit).
Another part of the reason for mods is the powerband. We live on a very steep road and 1st gear is quite tall on the minis. You have to practically abuse the car to get it up the hill, keeping the revs up. A lot of the mods move the powerband lower in the RPM range, making the car have some gusto at lower RPM's. This will speak volumes for driving up our hill. This hill is also the reason I bought a Tiptronic P-car. It effortlessly climbs up our road in 1st gear manual. My wife just bought her new Mini with the John Cooper "Works" package, which has a much more agreeable powerband - something like we are trying to achieve with the other car.
I still joke with him about putting a "governor" on the mini, like I did on his first 2-stroke motorcycle. We laugh about it. But honestly, I am not putting a "weapon" car in the hands of a new driver. He is a very responsible kid.
Now that I've tooted that horn... sorry.
But you asked.
It was interesting to me to watch the body language of two teenage boys standing by their cars at the convenient store talking to a beautiful and I mean beautiful blonde girl. They were next to their Eclipses with rear wings and aftermarket rims with their shoulders back like proud peacocks until I pulled in with my brand new, at the time, C4S and their shoulders immediately dropped and they started looking at the ground. I felt kind of bad since I probably ruined things for them with the girl.
It's interesting that girls are attracted to power and money. Even the two teenagers in your story seemed to appreciate that. Maybe when you pulled away, they got reenergized.
My boss has an '04 M3 and it is very quick. He likes to drag race his car, and he told me that his best time was 13.25 with a six speed manual. He likes Porsches, but he needs a useable back seat because he sometimes has to take his kids to soccer, baseball, and basketball practice. So the M3 was a great choice for him.
OK, so tonight I stop by Randall's Supermarket to pick up beer, wine, and bottled water for this weekend's track fun. (hiccup) I come out, and there are 5 teenagers surounding my car checking it out. They had a zillion questions. One stated he was getting an M3 soon (affluent neighborhood), but all were in awe and very courteous, full of smiles like those seen on US olympic swimmers. Crazy stuff. I felt old as the hills next to them.
Thanks for the generous response. I feared that you would take my question as a flame. Sounds very reasonable after the explaination. I'm glad I was driving a slow car when I learned to drive. It certainly took a beating from things like backing up without looking all around, opening the car door to wide and so forth. I would've been in tears had it been something new.
Drafting:
she's not reading this, so I can say "my car"
That is hilarious! I can definitely relate.
I frequently get people asking me if they can DRIVE it. I have come up with quite a few ways of politely saying NO.
I guess I scare the babes away once they see me since I don't seem to attract that kind of attention. However, since I put the new BBS wheels on 10 days ago, I am getting more lookers at the car. Today I had a question from a guy in a Range Rover who was admiring the car, but the best was a 7 or so y/o boy who had his head hanging out of the window for four blocks eyeing my car - I think he's definitely a future rennlister.
Maybe this would be a better babe magnet - if all you guys would just PayPal me a little something, I know I can get a great deal on it:
LOL! That is great! Hey Kirby, the neons will definitely get the ladies' attention but the
spinners
will seal the deal! I know you just got the BBS rims but I am sure you can sell them on ebay.
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i guess it depends on where you live...i don't get the admirimg looks so much as the offers to race. i was caught-out recently. i remember the front fender of a lifted crewcab pickup that said: gmc duramax diesel with a "banks" logo underneath. i wasn't really tying to race him, but he had a couple of car (truck?) lengths on me when i backed off. i bet the guy told all his buddies he just smoked a porsche 996.
afterwards, i looked up the banks duramx upgrade. it makes 450+ hp and over 850 ft-pounds of torque--no wonder!
When I'm out in my 993 I get nothing, nada, zilch attention.
But when I'm out cruzin in my 914:
I get kids hanging out of their parents mini-van yelling "Cool Car"
I get grown men yelling at me "How much do you want for it"
I get people coming up to me and telling me their "914 story" of college days, or when ever or
Their friend had one and it brings back the memories.
I get people recounting "The 914 legend" stories of incredible handling feats and speed.
And I live in the Bay Area in Los Gatos just up the street from a Ferrari dealer that is selling the new Lotus Elise.
Brings tears to my eyes.
Oh, no hot chicks seem to be interested though. Bummer.
Drive a Porsche 911 anywhere near Los Angeles and women (especially attractive ones) will go to great lengths to AVOID looking at you OR your car. The stigma around this marque is NOT good in this town from a woman's perspective...and probably for good reason. Don't you ever notice that all the sleazy, underhanded, low-lifes in the movies drive a Porsche? It's really unfair that such a great car can carry so many negative connotations.
Here in the Washington, D.C. Metro Area (Washington, D.C., Northern Virginia and Maryland) there are so many 996's that my 996 Cab (with the Ruf RGT aerokit) doesn't attract a lot of attention -- except for the ocassional "Awesome car!" from kids who recognize the Ruf RGT from Playstation2 Gran Turismo.
It's funny you mention the Cayenne. I recently had the car in the shop and got a Cayenne S loaner car. Everywhere I drove the Cayenne I got looks from young women and had a couple of them come up and talk to me while filling up at the gas station -- I don't know what is a more blatant display of wealth...the Cayenne or spending $50 for a full tank of gas!!
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Adrian,
True, we forget sometimes how good we have it here in the US. I remember when I lived in Italy a couple of years ago -- I took European delivery of a MB so I can have a car for my 6 month stay. The first time I went in for a fillup I thought (after doing a mental conversion from Deutsche Marks to Dollars) "$1.70 per gallon, that's not too bad" -- until the pump went over "16.00" and I realized it was $1.70 per liter!! Ouch! That was an expensive drive from Stuttgart to Rome. And we complain over here as soon as price of a gallon of regular unleaded goes over $2.00.
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Fishman,
Where are you from?? Scranton/WB Area?? I'm in Clarks Summit, actually Ransom TWP.. Are you a PCA member?
I always get the rice burners on the Scranton expressway or 81 and the occasional thumbs up from the guys!! Once in a while a girl
or two may give me a "nice Car'
Yeah 996 Aero, I am from Scranton. I have a lot of friends that live in Clarks Summit. I'm not a PCA member, I'm thinking about joining, but there are a couple of people that are members that I know from elsewhere (that I sort of have problems with to varying degrees of severity) that have made me hesitant to join. But I probably will join eventually.
By the way, I love your car.
OK. I got a good story.. Didn't happen to me personally, but I witnessed it with my own two eyes (and if I hadn't, I would have probably thought that the individual telling the story had "embellished", but I swear this is as accurate as it can be):
I was walking in Yorkville down Cumberland Avenue in Toronto (which is kind of a posh area in T.O. with shopping and patios). My gf's cell phone rang so we stopped for her to take the call. Since I had nothing to do, I was just checking out the scenery and noticed a fairly attractive mid-to-late-thirties brunette having a drink with another lady on a patio (for Torontonians, the patio next to Hemingways). Then, I see a 911 pull up and park on the street. As the car is parking, I notice the two women just stare at the car (and it was pretty obvious since one lady had her back to the street and turned around completely). The men got out of the car, and entered the bar/patio area, at which point, the women turned and stopped looking at the two men and pretended to be engrossed in conversation with each other.
As fate would have it, the hostess seated the two men next to the women (but definitely not at the same table). The two men ordered drinks and no more than 30 seconds had passed when I see one of the women say something to one of the men and then stick out her hand to introduce herself. It appeared that all parties exchanged hellos, and then I see the brunette get up, go to the bathroom, and it looks like she actually RE-DID her makeup and fixed her hair while she was gone.
Anyways, my gf's call ended so we kept walking down the street, but because she was shopping, we ended up passing the spot about 15-20 minutes later, at which point it looked like the women and men had drawn their table closer together--AMAZING. (It was at this point that my girlfriend muttered something about how, "those men deserve to get taken".) Now, I've never had something like this happen to me, but I'm glad to see that Porsche is good for more than the racetrack.
"Porsche: Accept No Substitutes"
Well, that would never happen here in Los Angeles. I'm originally from Toronto and I know exactly where you're referring to. Women here in LA (especially mid-thirties) avoid men in Porches like the plague. If that scenario played out here at the Chateau Marmont on Sunset for example, the women would have up and left when the men sat down next to them! LOL
Speed yellow must be the ticket....
Got a few stares/looks myself, depended on the area.
I'm getting ready for some stares....I just put in my order for a '67 Mustang Fastback Shelby Eleanor movie car clone. (They're all clones b/c the car in Gone in 60 wasn't a real Shelby to begin with)
Paul:
When you can back to Toronto, we can conduct experiments. Just for kicks, we'll have another member film and post links here under the heading, "When Animals Attack".
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