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Gauge cluster questions.....Needles dead

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YOUR RESEARCHGauge cluster questions.....Needles dead

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Not sure how to check or repair, however.

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Replace with new face and reassemble

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Replace with new face and reassemble.

Gauge cluster questions.....Needles dead
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Not sure how to check or repair, however.

Gauge cluster questions.....Needles dead

Replace with new face and reassemble

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Replace with new face and reassemble.

Gauge cluster questions.....Needles dead
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I swapped out my face gauges this weekend. It was an easy job. Remove cluster from dash - 2 screws 4 connectors Remove gauges from surround - 2 screws Seperate cluster - 2 screws 2 tabs 2 clips Lift needles with a fork (old BMW cluster trick) Pop the center O ring and lift off the face Replace with new face and reassemble. The only things that are not working are the far left 2 needles (Voltage and Speedo). Digital speedo works and the cruise light etc. It is just the needles that do not work. I double checked to make sure they were not put back on to firm. I did the work on a static safe bench. The fuses look to be fine. Anyone have any suggestions?

POST 2Original post

Tim -- Probably too obvious but did you make sure that the far left wiring harness is connected / seated correctly?

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yeah. I double checked that one and reseated everything twice just for good measure.

POST 4Original post

Hey, I just did the same and my Tach does not work=everything else does?HELP?

POST 5Original post

Maybe Toolpants will chime in. He has done a zillion of these and I remember him addressing it in the not too recent past (probably over on Renntech.org).

POST 6Original post

I did this mod about a year ago. From previous threads, I heard that the needles are very fragile when removing them. It may be that you broke or dislodged the spring mechanisms in the gauges. Not sure how to check or repair, however.

POST 7Original post

What you did was knock the pin in the motor that holds the needle...ask me how i know...It is repairable, The gauge motors work they just will not read..The cluster needs to come apart..again

POST 8Original post

so what is the correct technique to remove the needle?

POST 9Original post

If you buy a face kit, it usually comes with a tool that looks like a thin claw handle. You have to carefully work the needle off the shaft. Maybe I was not gentle enough? Steve

POST 11Original post

Yeah, I guess that was the wrong tool?/ Seriously= If you want this upgrade do not do it yourself unless you are a jewler or a nuclear physicist..........

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