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Porsche uses the 13th character in the VIN to describe the vehicle's body type.

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Porsche uses the 13th character in the VIN to describe the vehicle's body type.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I read a post that Jake posted a reply stating, "buy the earliest built '99 you can find". Why is a very early build date on a '99 the best choice?

POST 2Original post

I'm sure a couple of reasons would be because of it having a double row I*S bearing and five chains instead of a single row and three chains.

POST 3Original post

Quotes source post: 10378306

99 model for the cable controlled throttle body. Early build for the best quality control. Especially for the engine case.

POST 4Original post

^^ What he said. If the '99 has its original engine, it also has the dual-row I/\/\S bearing.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 10378469

The '99 Carrera 4 has e-gas, but otherwise, true dat.

POST 7Original post

Just look at your production date on the plate. Mine is 5/99. Not exactly early production, though

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My car has a build date of March 1998

POST 9Original post

That would be very early for a 99. Your last 4 numbers on your VIN must be something like 00xx or somthing like that.

POST 11Original post

I'm going to guess it had to do when they started to outsource the block/head castings. Early enough and you are likely to get the original source's stock. Although I have seen other years with aluminum cracking issues, the 99's are said to be the worst (internet rumors) mike

POST 14Original post

The last 4 of mine are 0694, where do I find the build date??? (I know it's an early 99 based on the tail lights and the CDR that came with it, but not sure when it was produced)

POST 15Original post

Personal preference. Today I drove home an early '99 thats #1883. I have driven 4 different 996s this week, each of them a minimum of 83 miles and time and time again I can tell the difference in the early 99s. I have tested 57 M96 powered cars this year and definitely have learned the dynamics that create a quality vehicle. Lots of people will argue with this, and they can. It won't matter to me.

POST 17 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Jake, I re-read your reply a couple of times. What do you mean you can tell the difference in the early '99's?

POST 18Original post

I am not willing to state more details. If so I'll be quoted by Parrots all over the internet and these questions will pop up all the time. As I stated, its a personal preference of mine, nothing more and nothing less. I do pay great attention to the traits between these cars, because its part of what I do.

POST 19Original post

Take that you parrot '99 dual row owners! Lol

POST 20Original post

Quotes source post: 10380162

Has ZERO to do with dual row, or even anything to do with the engine.

POST 21Original post

Quotes source post: 10380171

I got your point about all of it...hence the extra parrot mention. You mentioned the 99 once and several people went off about 99 being best and assumed it was because of dual row. Anyway...just shows your opinion has weight so i guess its a compliment to you.

POST 22Original post

Quotes source post: 10380188

Jakes opinion has just boosted '99 sales up 10-15%. Just make sure you link to his post in your sales ad.

POST 24Original post

When I sell my 2000, I will market that Jake actually drove my car. That has to be worth a few thousand in mark up!

POST 25Original post

Quotes source post: 10380235

Pfft ... i wouldnt dare own a 99! No glove box

POST 26Original post

Quotes source post: 10380392

I would imagine a cup holder is also as equally important to you as well.

POST 27Original post

Quotes source post: 10380464

Yes ... Good place for the coffee thermal for the drive into work

POST 28Original post

Quotes source post: 10380392

" None of my women wear gloves "...........(Morris Day reference).

POST 29Original post

Well, I guessed wrong about the dual-row - but I'm still happy to have it. I'll try not to misquote the Flat-6 guru in the future. Cupholders? Heresy. Glove box? If it doesn't fit in the door pocket, it goes on the floor behind the passenger seat.

POST 31Original post

My car has a build date in (late) 1999, does that count?

POST 32Original post

My # is 0446 and build completion was 05/15/1998 per the COA. 67K miles and going strong with only "normal" mntce. needs so far; i.e., coolant tank, water pump (a piece of mind expense), and some small stuff. relinuca

POST 33Original post

Jake, surely those of us willing to pay anything for your book will get ALL the answers! Im really surpised the Porsche guys have not tried to silence you (or buy you off), or have they?

POST 34Original post

The book won't have this type of info.. It's all technical and mostly procedural in regard to engine assembly.

POST 35Original post

Ok, I was just hoping for a section on you opinions and theories, with the required disclaimer of course. That would be a really cool chapter to include just from your experience and what you think. Regardless, cant wait for it to come out. My Uncle has authored many historical books (and was even Knighted by a Queen for some) so I am a little familiar with the logistics and nightmare of publishing. Thank you again, I know its a big time consumer and headache for you.

POST 36Original post

It's all about engines.. And their assembly. I am not big on theory or opinion type stuff, just making things run is all that matters to me. Lots of people out there to snowball you on theory and opinion, no shortage of that type thing. If I was writing this book 20 years ago what I would cover and share would be different. People were different then, less critical and not so freakin opinionated.

POST 38Original post

Guys just enjoy your damn porsche.Who cares what year, its yours.

POST 39Original post

Guys, it's really easy, ,look at the posts about the class action against Porsche for the IMSB issue. The early years, up to about 2000, had the double row IMSB, which according to Porsche, ,has a failure rate of less than 1 percent. The later motors, with a single row imsb, had failure rates of 6-10 percent. So look at the post, it has the vin numbers of the single and double rows, if you have a double, it's unlikely you will have a problem. Was it that hard?

POST 40Original post

Glad I have a 2001 with the ultra rare dual row IMSB! Best all of all worlds. David

POST 41Original post

Glad I have a big-nut M97 in my 996. (warranty replacement in 2005) From what I understand failures are quite rare - although I get that they still happen. But here we are again -talking about the damned IMSB. Shame on us. Jake has already said his preference has nothing to do with the confounded thing. It's the seat of the pants he's talking about. I had an early 78 SC for a long time - the 72nd one built according to the VIN. It was different than other SC I drove as well - hard to say why.

POST 44Original post

Nineellebin, that looks great. What's the go with the different wheels?

POST 45Original post

I just thought of something. Don't we need to show the last 5 digits of the VIN? They built 28040 cars in 99. Mine is 23693 built 09/98

POST 46Original post

Quotes source post: 10392238

Porsche uses the 13th character in the VIN to describe the vehicle's body type. Mine is a "5" for Carrera Cabriolet, USA Spec. My serial# is 3404. Not sure of the build date, but one VIN Decoder suggested it was 12/98. How can you tell the build date?

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