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YOUR RESEARCHFinal Update on my 996
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Oh regarding PCAR motor guys and others who say drive them right away, to I guess ignore in part or in whole the factory recommended break in guidelines...
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Recommend foreign car italia and their mechanic "henry"
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I would highly recommend both Foreign Car Italia and their mechanic "Henry" for their help and fine service.
Recommend specific oil), maybe even going so far as
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By giving this advice, one has to assume the PCAR motor guy that built the engine is expected to have built the engine to withstand this treatment, which means among other things to have selected proper higher strength components with suitable materials and finishes, and assembled these with closer attention to clearances and fits and detail, and to have made improvements to the fuel, coolant and oil systems (and of course even to recommending a specific oil), maybe even going so far as to perform the necessary break in running on a dyno, so the engine not only survives this treatment unscathed but long afterwards continues to deliver the experience and service life the customer expects and
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I would never advise anyone to go against his engine builder's break-in guidelines, oil change intervals, or oil recommendations.
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In fact if permitted I'd do more than that and change the oil early (say between 500 and 1K miles) then again at 2K miles.
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Oh regarding PCAR motor guys and others who say drive them right away, to I guess ignore in part or in whole the factory recommended break in guidelines...
Recommend specific oil), maybe even going so far as
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By giving this advice, one has to assume the PCAR motor guy that built the engine is expected to have built the engine to withstand this treatment, which means among other things to have selected proper higher strength components with suitable materials and finishes, and assembled these with closer attention to clearances and fits and detail, and to have made improvements to the fuel, coolant and oil systems (and of course even to recommending a specific oil), maybe even going so far as to perform the necessary break in running on a dyno, so the engine not only survives this treatment unscathed but long afterwards continues to deliver the experience and service life the customer expects and
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By giving this advice, one has to assume the PCAR motor guy that built the engine is expected to have built the engine to withstand this treatment, which means among other things to have selected proper higher strength components with suitable materials and finishes, and assembled these with closer attention to clearances and fits and detail, and to have made improvements to the fuel, coolant and oil systems (and of course even to recommending a specific oil), maybe even going so far as to perform the necessary break in running on a dyno, so the engine not only survives this treatment unscathed but long afterwards continues to deliver the experience and service life the customer expects and
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It may have been a new engine that made it through the final engine testing with flying colors and then was pulled off the line and set aside for use as a replacement engine.
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It may have been a new engine that made it through the final engine testing with flying colors and then was pulled off the line and set aside for use as a replacement engine.
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I also am very appreciative that I received no hassle from CNA and they were quick to move on getting the problem resolved.
Today I picked up my 02, 996. It has been about 3 weeks since I had a major engine problem where coolant was entering my oil. Although we may never know what really happened, I am very please with my outcome.
Foreign Cars Italia of Greensboro and my extended warrant company, CNA made good on everything. I received a Porsche Factory rebuilt engine, total cost over $21,000. Cost out of my pocket my $250.00 deductible!. The engine runs great, and I'll take it easy for the next 2k miles.
I would highly recommend both Foreign Car Italia and their mechanic "Henry" for their help and fine service. I also am very appreciative that I received no hassle from CNA and they were quick to move on getting the problem resolved. Now let's go for a drive!
BTW why take it easy for 2k miles?
I know many Pcar motor guys who say drive em right away... IIRC Jake Raby even said once that he hits redline before the end of the driveway on every one he does... I know other builders with simillar "requirements" when they take them on the maiden voyages
Thats great to hear!
I have yet to experience those sorts of results when assisting clients that have warranties and experience major failure. It typically takes months of no email or phone calls being returned to even get them to accept the liability, then that amount of time or more to get settled up with them on the totals. It was such a pain that we no longer accept warranty jobs unless the vehicle owner is willing to pay us, then become reimbursed by the warranty company.
Today may be a good day to play the lottery.
BTW- PM me for some info on something that you should do soon to the new engine.
Why take it easy (and 'easy' is primarly defined as keeping the rpms under 4200) for 2K miles?
Simply because one has to assume the replacement engine is a new engine and should be treated as such.
No one can know the extent of what was done to the replacement engine. It may have been a new engine that made it through the final engine testing with flying colors and then was pulled off the line and set aside for use as a replacement engine.
Or the engine may have been pulled off the line due to some problem and reworked and then retested and found up to par and put aside for use as a replacement engine.
Or the engine may have been an engine that developed a problem in a customer's car under warranty and was removed and returned to the factory for rebuilding.
Thus, the safest course of action is to assume the engine is new or consists of more than a few new parts and follow the break in guidelines as per the owners manual.
Now a problem arises when I'm sure the customer asks the dealer and someone at the dealer (maybe a salesman but it can be anyone) says 'oh drive it like you stole it'. Too many times this advice is just someone parroting what he has overheard and in saying this again is trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about.
I would ask if I instead followed the recommended break in guidelines, would this in any way void the warranty on the replacement engine. And I'd have to see this in writing before I believed it and before I would ignore the break in guidelines. My guess is no one at the dealer with any authority woud put this on paper. So I would adhere to the break in guidelines for the reasons I stated above and cover more below.
If the engine is new this goes a long way to ensuring the engine delivers a long and trouble free service life. If the engine is not new, this does no harm. OTOH, all it takes is one new part in a remanufactured engine to fail prematurely due to improper running in and the engine's sick again.
Besides following the break in guidelines, I would advise, unless prohibited by the factory as a condition of the engine replacement, to treat the replacement engine to at least an oil/filter service at the end of the break in period. In fact if permitted I'd do more than that and change the oil early (say between 500 and 1K miles) then again at 2K miles.
Oh regarding PCAR motor guys and others who say drive them right away, to I guess ignore in part or in whole the factory recommended break in guidelines... I say 'so what'?
If these PCAR motor guys or others supply an engine, a rebuilt engine, then they are free to advise their customers to drive the car, treat the engine any way they feel that in doing so will deliver the experience and the service life the customer expects from the engine produced by this person or his shop.
By giving this advice, one has to assume the PCAR motor guy that built the engine is expected to have built the engine to withstand this treatment, which means among other things to have selected proper higher strength components with suitable materials and finishes, and assembled these with closer attention to clearances and fits and detail, and to have made improvements to the fuel, coolant and oil systems (and of course even to recommending a specific oil), maybe even going so far as to perform the necessary break in running on a dyno, so the engine not only survives this treatment unscathed but long afterwards continues to deliver the experience and service life the customer expects and has paid dearly for.
I would never advise anyone to go against his engine builder's break-in guidelines, oil change intervals, or oil recommendations.
But I would certainly advise anyone with a new under warranty or replacement engine to carefully consider very carefully consider following anyone's engine break in advice that differs from the factory break in guidelines for new/replacement engines if the person offering the break in advice didn't put a wrench to the engine, if he's not standing behind his break in advice willing to make things right should something untoward arise from this break in treatment.
Sincerely,
Macster.
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