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YOUR RESEARCHremove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio

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Replace with kenwood dnx-9960

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I just pulled mine out and replaced with Kenwood DNX-9960.

remove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio
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Recommend car tunes in atlanta (roswell rd)

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I went to the highly recommended Car Tunes in Atlanta (Roswell Rd).

remove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio
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Use albeit smaller

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Gmaps on my blackberry sucks, but the iPhone apps and interface is as good as the Garmins I've used, albeit smaller.

remove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio

Recommend car tunes in atlanta (roswell rd)

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I went to the highly recommended Car Tunes in Atlanta (Roswell Rd).

remove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio

Replace mid year

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I have 2004 Turbo 911 that has the Porsche DVD (only one DVD) based Nav, I "think" there was a change mid year from the cd to the DVD based system.

remove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio

Set " of cd's

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wow really then you must have the "First Set" of CD's that were Issued with PCM 2, there was an Update in 2004 which had 3 CD's and in 2008 there was a final Update with 8 CD's...

remove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio
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Recommend car tunes in atlanta (roswell rd)

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I went to the highly recommended Car Tunes in Atlanta (Roswell Rd).

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Replace mid year

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I have 2004 Turbo 911 that has the Porsche DVD (only one DVD) based Nav, I "think" there was a change mid year from the cd to the DVD based system.

remove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio

Replace with kenwood dnx-9960

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I just pulled mine out and replaced with Kenwood DNX-9960.

remove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio

Set " of cd's

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wow really then you must have the "First Set" of CD's that were Issued with PCM 2, there was an Update in 2004 which had 3 CD's and in 2008 there was a final Update with 8 CD's...

remove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio

Use albeit smaller

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Gmaps on my blackberry sucks, but the iPhone apps and interface is as good as the Garmins I've used, albeit smaller.

remove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio

Use gps

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There's one question I keep coming back to - and this is stopping me from going after market: The PSM apparently uses GPS for stabilization so I'm not sure if this or any other systems are affected by removing the PCM.

remove 2004 Nav unit and swap for radio
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It's still not perfect, but it is certainly better.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'm looking at a 2004 C2 with Nav in there currently. I'm assuming the maps are way out of date. Can they be updated at all? If not, can this unit be pulled and a standard radio and filler be put in the car? I really don't need the nav, just looking for options. Thanks

POST 2Original post

A 2004 should have a CD-based nav system - PCM 2.0 (as opposed to the newer DVD-based nav system - PCM 2.1). Update CDs were made available in 2008, and you can get them at your dealer. We've got them in our Cayenne, and they are quite good - a vast improvement over the original 2004 CDs.

POST 3Original post

I have 2004 Turbo 911 that has the Porsche DVD (only one DVD) based Nav, I "think" there was a change mid year from the cd to the DVD based system.

POST 4Original post

Quotes source post: 7839064

ummm No they wernt... 996 is all CD Based... it was Cayanne that was changed to DVD in 05ish Yours is a CD not DVD, sorry...

POST 5Original post

I'm not sure... I just thought they might have both switched to PCM 2.1. For the Cayenne, I have 7 CDs that cover the US and Canada.

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 7838834

I'll trade you for the Nav and money on top.... let me know.

POST 7Original post

Quotes source post: 7839889

I really need to buy that update for the Cayenne, the 04 CD's aint cutting it.

POST 8Original post

Suncoast does sell updated CD's for this unit. It also upgraded the software to the unit. They are not cheap.

POST 9Original post

Quotes source post: 7840585

yeah, thats what holding me back, almost want to replace it with a nice modern Nav/Radio like I did with my 996

POST 10Original post

FWIW - the update CDs made a BIG difference. It's still not perfect, but it is certainly better.

POST 11Original post

I'll check mine tonight when I get home, but my car only has One disk for the entire USA.

POST 12Original post

Quotes source posts: 7839889, 7840837

your 04 Cayanne is CD Based, i think it was 05 or 06 they switched to DVD... wow really then you must have the "First Set" of CD's that were Issued with PCM 2, there was an Update in 2004 which had 3 CD's and in 2008 there was a final Update with 8 CD's... Yours maps must be really out-dated...

POST 13Original post

Zookie, yes you are correct, checked my disc(s), they are cd's and there is 2, one East and one West.

POST 14Original post

iPhone. Google maps rocks and is probably always the most up to date thing at any given moment. Gmaps on my blackberry sucks, but the iPhone apps and interface is as good as the Garmins I've used, albeit smaller.

POST 15Original post

I have a PCM 2 for sale, ready to go out of the car. PM me if interested.

POST 16Original post

Quotes source post: 7842203

Yes, you are correct. What I'm not sure about is if the 996 switched to PCM 2.1 the same year as the Cayenne.

POST 17Original post

I just pulled mine out and replaced with Kenwood DNX-9960.

POST 18Original post

That looks nice... I've considered doing something similar many times. What made you go with the Kenwood over the Pioneer?

POST 19Original post

Quotes source post: 7844151

996 were last of the CD's and 997 were first of the DVD's

POST 20Original post

Quotes source post: 7840604

If you can post pictures and thank you.

POST 21Original post

Quotes source post: 8032685

Couple years back now, Poineer AVIC-Z3, Bluetooth, XM and iPOD.

POST 22Original post

Quotes source post: 7840604

Hey Marc, Do you remember if you posted details about your 996 install back then?

POST 24Original post

I went to the highly recommended Car Tunes in Atlanta (Roswell Rd). That was the 2 DIN unit they had that did everything. Basically two different versions of the Kenwood. Has GPS, Bluetooth, iPod, USB, DVD,CD including video, backup camera, HD/Sat Radio, and more. It had good reviews so I went with it. That shop did not sell the Pioneer...so the decision was easier....which Kenwood? As a side note... I still have the original PCM 1. 6 Disc CD Changer, Nav Disc Reader, 2 DIN Stereo/Nav, ready to go. PM me if interested. :-) Pics available

POST 25Original post

There's definitely an update for the Nav. I just bought an '04 and the previous owner can't find the map CD's. I talked to a local Porsche dealer and they indicated it would cost around $300 to get the CD's and update my system. I think at this point I'm going to opt for an after-market option because I want bluetooth and iPod as well. (Had my 986 updated and love it). There's one question I keep coming back to - and this is stopping me from going after market: The PSM apparently uses GPS for stabilization so I'm not sure if this or any other systems are affected by removing the PCM. I know there's data transferred to the PCM in terms of temperature and the like so am hesitant to get an aftermarket until I know. Any help from outside would be appreciated.

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