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During 2010 I have used my 4S on the N�rburgring, the Spa Francorchamps, driving to work, driving the kids to kindergarten, in the snow (live in Sweden...)!

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But the gaping holes in the front fender are maybe needed for cooling but they ruin clean, smooth and elegant front bumper of classic 911.

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But the gaping holes in the front fender are maybe needed for cooling but they ruin clean, smooth and elegant front bumper of classic 911.

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Replace anybody's opinion of the wide-body cars

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Saying negative things about the others won't change anybody's opinion of the wide-body cars, it will cause them to form a negative opinion of you.

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Use "other" funds

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Wife and I are planning to start a family shortly so I am looking to purchase the least expensive, most fuel efficient, safe, cargo and pet friendly vehicle I can find so that I can use "other" funds to purchase as many P-cars as possible.

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But the gaping holes in the front fender are maybe needed for cooling but they ruin clean, smooth and elegant front bumper of classic 911.

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Replace anybody's opinion of the wide-body cars

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Saying negative things about the others won't change anybody's opinion of the wide-body cars, it will cause them to form a negative opinion of you.

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Wife and I are planning to start a family shortly so I am looking to purchase the least expensive, most fuel efficient, safe, cargo and pet friendly vehicle I can find so that I can use "other" funds to purchase as many P-cars as possible.

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During 2010 I have used my 4S on the N�rburgring, the Spa Francorchamps, driving to work, driving the kids to kindergarten, in the snow (live in Sweden...)!

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But I am still not totally desided.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Am I the only one, really, who much prefers the elegant looks of the narrow regular body over the turbo or more ridiclous "turbo looks" boy racer gaping holes in the front bumper and out of proportion rear quarters with multiple slots like on the Russian submarine? Am I alone in my sillyness??

POST 2Original post

I think so, yes. I think the C4S is the best looking of the bunch! It has the lower stance and wider hips of the turbo, but doesn't have the intakes on the sides and the spoiler on the back to break up the lines.

POST 3Original post

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I think both are elegant in their own way

POST 6Original post

I gotta say, I think I am with you. i was looking at a turbo the other day and I have to say i liked the smooth body of my areo much better. But I am still not totally desided.

POST 7Original post

In the immortal words of Freddy Mercury, "Fat bottom girls you make the rockin world go 'round!!!"

POST 8Original post

some like DD cups while others prefer C's. nothing wrong with you. it's your car. love it then it's all good. i love fat bottom girls.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Sooo, I am not alone after all... The front is more offending on the wide body style then the rear by the way so all the guys adoring huge bottom might have some excuse IMO. But the gaping holes in the front fender are maybe needed for cooling but they ruin clean, smooth and elegant front bumper of classic 911.

POST 13Original post

The C4S is widely recognized as the best looking 996. (OKAY, I'm biased!) The best ode to its beauty is Sigfus' pages on his car: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/336559...d-reykjavik-is Go take a look, and maybe it will make you a believer!

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+1 I certainly don't consider the front bumper to be offensive...

POST 15Original post

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Unfortunately you're not, and it never ceases to amaze me the level of insecurity with some Porsche owners. Why do you have to put down one version of the 911 just to justify your preferences? FYI: All 911 variants appeal to me.

POST 16Original post

well.... both are very nice... cant go wrong with either really.

POST 17Original post

Honestly, I find the narrow body coupe to be the least appealing of all the 911s....you asked!

POST 18Original post

I have both so I try to be impartial. I guess I prefer the more aggressive Turbo look (it might be the boy racer gene), but it's not a landslide vote for me, more of a 55/45 thing. The look of the turbo from the backside sways my vote. I'm also a nut for ALL varietyies of Pcars and can appreciate what each brings to the party!

POST 20Original post

Having had multiple tt's, 2's and 3's.. They have beautiful asses !! But all if the beautiful in my eyes.. I just like nice *** better

POST 21Original post

I was after the classic simple lines of the 993 narrow body C2 when I bought my car (it was/is newer and more comfy and faster for nearly the same $$). The Turbo and C4S are plenty nice looking though.

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I don't have anything against the widebody cars and could potentially own one some day, but I truly like the shape of my narrowbody car. My "plain" C4 always reminds me of a newer version of this, which I find to be absolutely beautiful.

POST 23Original post

But the fact that the scoops are functional make up for it.

POST 24Original post

My take is that the narrow body looks better looking straight on at the back but the wide body looks cool coming towards a bystanderor on an angle.

POST 25Original post

When it comes to 996 and 997 street cars, my preference is for narrow bodies. Why carry all that extra weight for nothing? Just my opinion.

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Curious how much extra weight between a C4 and a C4S?

POST 27Original post

I think the OP was feeling quite a bit of insecurity and doubt, and he stirred the pot. My opinion is that they all look great. I happen to think the C4S is the best looking of the 996 model lineup, but that's my opinion. I'm not trying to build some kind of consensus to make me feel better about my choice, I don't have any insecurity at all. If you don't like the looks of the turbo of the C4S, that's fine... don't buy one. If I buy another 996, I'll most likely pick a C4S again. I see no need to attempt to point out why the narrow body isn't as attractive. Threads like this serve no purpose other than getting people angry and defensive.

POST 28 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I am not insecure and I don't doubt my opinion at all. I just see how everybody (especially the guys who own one) praises the beauty of wide body and for me it just looks simply overdone. How insecure or doubtful is it? I think just the opposite might be true; those who defend the WB superior looks without giving the good reason for it just follow the majority crowd and hence possibly they feel insecure and aggressive.

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Those "boy racer gaping holes" provide more airflow to the radiators. And those "out of proportion rear quarters with multiple slots" provide an exit for airflow through the intercoolers (cosmetic for the C4S, however). Personally, the 993 is what got me liking Porsches, with the curves and hips. Unfortunately, the 993 is not the correct economical decision for me. To me, the narrow body 996 has a bland front-end (along w/ no hips). If it helps explain it, then I also happen to like the front-end of the Ferrari 360, Ferrari 430, Lamborghini Gallardo, and Lamborghini Murcielago with their "boy racer gaping holes" as well. The 997 brings back the fender flares that the 993 has and I would see myself owning a narrowbody 997. I hope those are good enough reasons for you, which is basically function over form. The form just also happens to be more appealling to me. /m

POST 30Original post

Well said Michael. To the OP, the reason that you appear to be so insecure is because the approach that you take in attempting to praise the narrow-body cars is to bash the others. How do you expect people who prefer those cars to respond? You seem to be doubtful of your decision because of your negative comments about the others. If you perfer the narrow-body cars, that's great! They are great looking cars. Saying negative things about the others won't change anybody's opinion of the wide-body cars, it will cause them to form a negative opinion of you. We don't all have to like the same thing. It's okay if you prefer narrow-body cars and others don't.

POST 33Original post

I like ALL pcars! Except maybe the 924's. I'm on my third 911. If I can get a TT in reach I won't think back. The wide body ever since the 930 is the pinnacle to me and reminds me of Raquel Welch and Sophia Loren. I've a got license plate coming with the word 'ZAFTIG' on it. Def = Adjective: (of a woman) Having a full, rounded figure; plump. I plan on having that plate until I land the TT.......until than it will be on my C4. That has a nice a$$ too.

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Whats not to like about 924's

POST 35Original post

I want to make my rear even wider looking, so a nice deep dish wheel package might do the trick

POST 36Original post

Wife and I are planning to start a family shortly so I am looking to purchase the least expensive, most fuel efficient, safe, cargo and pet friendly vehicle I can find so that I can use "other" funds to purchase as many P-cars as possible. Front runner is definately a new Subaru Outback with the flat 4 and CVT trans. You'll be hard pressed to find a vehicle that can compete for the same $$$. I love my C2 but I would love to have a C4S as well. I am, without a doubt... an assman. And I don't like the 924 either.

POST 37Original post

I would suggest a Cayenne as your family hauler, but it's not inexpensive, it gets terrible gas mileage and the cargo capacity is somewhat limited. Other than that, we love ours!

POST 39Original post

I like the curves as well and the next p-car will be wide bodied...

POST 40Original post

I thought that the C4S is actually slower than the standard because the body kit aerodynamics' slow it down???.

POST 41Original post

Yes I was right. from Wiki. 911 Carrera 4 316 hp (236 kW) @ 6800 rpm, 3.6L dry-sump 5.0 s 177 mph (285 km/h) 911 Carrera 4S 316 hp (236 kW) @ 6800 rpm, 3.6L dry-sump 5.1 s 174 mph (280 km/h) But I have to say I would still have an S

POST 42Original post

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I'll bet All those stickers weigh about as much as the extra weight of the widebody

POST 43Original post

Here - Jeremy Clarkson explains at 7:05 in the video the EXACT differences between the NB 996, the C4S and Turbo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJemsVMhEhs

POST 44Original post

I have the 4S and love It! During 2010 I have used my 4S on the N�rburgring, the Spa Francorchamps, driving to work, driving the kids to kindergarten, in the snow (live in Sweden...)! And 4S dose all this without any problems and still gives me a smile everyday.

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umm... I don't like your exhaust.

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