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YOUR RESEARCHremoving lower rear "coffin" control arms
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I just replaced the rear lower control arms on my car.
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For one of the arms I used a short breaker bar (with a hammer) to beat on the arm to break it loose from the carrier.
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Seems like the pickle fork might have torn and moved the boot, which is fine because I was replacing these old arms.
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Use a wedge or a thin shim, 1/8-1/4, under the pickle fork.
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Hey everyone!
I have a 1999 Carrera 4 Coupe with about 98000 miles on it.
I'm rebuilding the suspension. Everything in the rear is off, except for the lower "coffin arm" control arm. I've removed the eccentric bolt, as well as the bolt on the ball-joint over the wheel carrier.
But I can't figure out how to get the arm out of the wheel carrier. The ball joint tool I have doesn't fit; it feels like its legs are too narrow to go over the boot side of the joint.
I bought some pickle forks, and I can hammer them in over the boot side of the ball joint. At a certain point, though, they just stop. More hammering doesn't loosen the joint, nor does it advance the fork further into the joint.
Is there a trick to this? A special tool?
I just replaced the rear lower control arms on my car. For one of the arms I used a short breaker bar (with a hammer) to beat on the arm to break it loose from the carrier. Just be careful as there is not a lot of room to swing the hammer in the wheel well.
Use a wedge or a thin shim, 1/8-1/4, under the pickle fork. If it stalls then a little bit of heat on the carrier area or tap that area with a hammer. Once its being "pulled" apart with the fork it should pop.
Yeah, that's the main problem. Can't access the top of the ball joint bolt since the axle is in the way, there's not much clearance for the breaker tool, and every angle to swing something is short and awkward.
I'll keep at it today and see what happens ...
Heat goes a long way. I also ended up using one of these things from HF to get that ball joint out of the wheel carrier. Put tension on it using this, carefully heat with a propane torch and give it a few raps with a ball-peen. Popped right off no problem for me.
I did it! \o/ Thanks for believing in me, everybody!
The kit I bought was the
Orion Motorsport BL05
; I was using the three-finger tool in that kit. It just wouldn't fit; the two-finger side seemed just too narrow to get over the boot deep enough to make the third finger align accurately with the threaded bolt on the top of the joint.
I wish I could say specifically what worked, but here's what I did:
Tried the three-finger tool. Couldn't make it fit.
Whacked on the bolt with a punch -- couldn't get a straight angle.
Pickle fork. Seemed like a bit of progress, but didn't pop.
Liquid wrench sat overnight.
Very carefully pushed three-finger joint tool over, and it made it further!
Popped it off.
Seems like the pickle fork might have torn and moved the boot, which is fine because I was replacing these old arms. But moving the boot also seems to have made enough room for the fork of the three-finger tool to fit. Once I got it engaged, it worked fine.
I think the tool I have is too narrow -- it fits just barely over the steel shoulder of the ball joint, and certainly wouldn't fit deep enough with the rubber boot in the way. Maybe the smart kids push the boot down with a screw-driver, or maybe some three-finger ball joint tools are wider and better sited to this application.