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YOUR RESEARCHHot start issue
Reported or suspected cause
definitely slow winding vs not starting
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Reported cause
The cable (and starter) issue is definitely slow winding vs not starting.
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Checked the Evap purge valve already and it seems fine.
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Suspected cause
This is most likely the cable that runs from the alternator to the starter.
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I just recently picked up a durametric so checked fuel trim numbers to see if there are any issues and I am not sure how to read these.
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Suggestion
Test your fuel pressure and especially fuel pressure after you turn it off and see how many PSI it drops and how long it takes to drop.....ie what is the pressure as soon as you turn off the motor, then 15min after the motor is turned off, then 30 min later, then 1 hour later...
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Test your fuel pressure and especially fuel pressure after you turn it off and see how many PSI it drops and how long it takes to drop.....ie what is the pressure as soon as you turn off the motor, then 15min after the motor is turned off, then 30 min later, then 1 hour later...
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New cable helped slightly but a new stadter solved it.
So my 2002 3.6 seems to be experiencing an issue with hot starting. Starts fine when cold but warm it up then leave it a few hours and it takes a good 10 seconds of cranking to start. Starter seems to be turning over fine the same as when cold. Checked the Evap purge valve already and it seems fine. I just recently picked up a durametric so checked fuel trim numbers to see if there are any issues and I am not sure how to read these. I know RKAT should ideally be 0. Are these numbers bad/out of spec? Trying not to just shoot the parts cannon at this but really tempted to order injectors but not looking forward to the install.
warm engine after 30 min drive, engine idling
cold engine next day
Fuel Trims are damn near perfect....
Test your fuel pressure and especially fuel pressure after you turn it off and see how many PSI it drops and how long it takes to drop.....ie what is the pressure as soon as you turn off the motor, then 15min after the motor is turned off, then 30 min later, then 1 hour later...
This is most likely the cable that runs from the alternator to the starter. I, and many others, have had this exact same issue. Here's how to replace it
Alt/Start Cablere placement
(see my posts #71-72 on some helpful tips to make this easier and not remove the AC compressor)
I plan on doing some fuel pressure testing on it tonight then. One other thing I did notice on my cold start this morning there was a fair cloud of smoke. It definitely smelled like fuel. Stopped after a few seconds which kind of makes me think of leaking injectors unless I am wrong on that
I had the hot start issue. New cable helped slightly but a new stadter solved it. However, OP 's issue sounds different. Mine was slow to crank when hot, but he's not having that problem.
You�re absolutely right, my bad for not reading it right. The cable (and starter) issue is definitely slow winding vs not starting. My apologies OP. Good luck finding the fix.
I was hoping to do some fuel pressure testing last night. I had purchased a test kit from amazon, but none of the adapters worked they all are too small. What adapter do I need for doing this? i took the cap off and there doesn't seem to be a schrader valve under the cap from what I could see. I did read about special tool 9559 for $150
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