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YOUR RESEARCH1999 C2 hit 39K w commission...
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Install 4 new michelins and changed the oil 🤷♂️
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Better spec (to me) , similar mileage and bought at a Porsche dealer who installed 4 new Michelins and changed the oil 🤷♂️
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Better spec (to me) , similar mileage and bought at a Porsche dealer who installed 4 new Michelins and changed the oil 🤷♂️
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Seems like this car had the clutch replaced twice but didn't opt to replace the IMSB either time.
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Had it not had clean maintenance history, would have walked away.
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Seems like this car had the clutch replaced twice but didn't opt to replace the IMSB either time.
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Chassis:
WP0AA2995XS625233
75k Miles
3.4-Liter Flat-Six
6-Speed Manual Transaxle
Ocean Blue Metallic
Savannah Beige Draped Leather
10-Spoke Wheels
Electric Sunroof
Speed-Activated Rear Spoiler
Automatic Climate Control
Cruise Control
Power-Adjustable Front Seats
Porsche CDR-220 Stereo
Manuals and Service Records
IMS done
Comments? Thoughts?
Read the comments on BaT. Don't really understand the extra love for the 99s. I could have bought a 50k mile 99 cab for 17,000 with LN solution. Rubs on rear wheel well and front bumper from exiting garage that needed $1800 in body shop work to repair and needed new leather on driver's seat. Very happy with my 03, but now thinking should have bought both, fixed the 99 and sold it.
Plugged car into KBB for value. Selecting "excellent condition" gave a private party average value of $17,152. I think sites like KBB give lower values than the real world, but $20,000?
I think KBB is almost useless for any enthusiast car. A few years ago they valued my e46 M3 with 70k miles somewhere around 12k. I sold it for way more than that and I think the same goes for most older enthusiast cars. It says my 99 Cab is between 15-18k but I think given the current market I could get 20-25k for it but I do think BaT tends to produce more outliers.
99 is lightest and purest water cooled 911, lighter than the 964 and 993, faster (convertibles excluded). All that came after started bloating up. Anyway it goes something like that..
'True', and 'for now'. In 2006 Rennlist.com was the venue 964 fights, there were 10 haters for 1 supporter. Today a not so special 964 can go for 2 to 3 times what this guy paid for a nicely colored 996, not run of the mill. Meet me here in 15 years.
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I�m just trying to figure out why this one is worth almost twice what I paid for mine this summer
Better spec (to me) , similar mileage and bought at a Porsche dealer who installed 4 new Michelins and changed the oil 🤷♂️
Must be the boring Arctic Silver
Arctic boring? Nope. Arctic just works on this car with the headlight design and the lines. Had a new one in 99 with the ambers, didn't know what I had, sold it. Duh. Stupid.
I'm really happy about this result, as I have a 99 Aerokit, but this car was for sale directly for 27k before the auction on cargurus, cars.com, etc. I don't understand the person that didn't look around before suddenly dropping 40k on a 20-year-old car.
IMO the car went for only 5k above market plus auction fees.
37K on bat with 75k miles is overpaying.. BUT, it was a special color combo, and previous owner paid many thousands in recent maintenance. Base market price for the car might be 27K and adding for color and perfect working condition I would say low 30's is on the high-end of acceptable. The additional 5K plus auction fees are a BAT fact of life sometimes.
Source for Value (chart at 7:26)
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Wouldn't qualify as group think here, only two bidders above 30K, and there's no group think when you have to put up hard $. Above 30k there were only two bidders.
These sales keep making me want to put mine up. I have a similar spec and mileage, no hollow spoke, I have the IMSB, RMS, Clutch, and AOS done within the last 2 years and 3k miles. Also just had the top replaced. Seems like this car had the clutch replaced twice but didn't opt to replace the IMSB either time.
@Putt-Putt
you are right... but in reference as to why people flock to BAT... I think and this purely subjective, that the peanut gallery does a lot of the tyre kicking for you. In agreement to your comment, yes once the peanut gallery has assessed the car for you...the money you spend is your own. Also consider the comment in response to
@Tom Loder
comments... why spend the money here instead of looking around,,, and im thinking that people prefer to spend with a group think safety handle.
Great point, I'm beginning to see it more your way. These cars are an emotional purchase. Buyers seek safety, the 'peanut gallery' can provide it. Although you can never know auction by auction what a person's motivations are those last few moments are more emotional than logical.
It's funny because the peanut gallery tends to overlook questionable things all the time and people buy into it. For example, the 996 Targa that looked well sorted just by the cosmetic work that was done, but nobody ever mentioned the sketchy engine rebuild paperwork posted in the photo gallery. What happened? It broke on the drive home and ended up at FSI for a new engine. AFTER it pulled a premium, even for BAT standards.
I bought mine sight unseen from a dealer, but documentation from prior maintenance was one of the things that were necessary to feel content with the purchase. Had it not had clean maintenance history, would have walked away. Sometimes you don't get all this information on BAT.
Hahahaha- if you google BAT and 996 you are guaranteed to see that Targa and its drive home failure! I think the seller has been banned from Rennlist too! I think i saw some videos or posts from FSI that stated that one of the tires was even bold from use... I did all my research and followed FirstFlatsix.com and then bought a car that had been maintained by a local independent to me and bought the car on their recommendation.
Maybe I'll put my 01 white cab with 11k miles up and see if I can get 50k for it. Was planning to keep it for 2 more years hoping for 40k but it seems it might be there already with the right buyer!
