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I have the OEM aero kit waiting to be installed on mine.
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These are not the best pictures but I just got the car back from having my MK1 Aero kit installed on my 2001 C2 and I love it.
Install painted bumperettes and oem taco (both sourced through forums)
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I just installed painted bumperettes and OEM taco (both sourced through forums).
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Though I have a C4S, I feel compelled to publicly announce my unrequited love for the MK1s with the full factory aerokit. I have absolutely enjoyed viewing pics of exlonoder/redridge's rides lowered on 19s. My boy chao's got that nice OEM that was nicely lowered recently. Nycebo I know is looking to add the rear strakes which I think are absolutely critical. Chads996 (he that loves to ignore me) has finally turned around and is adding it to his white MK1. My boy ls911 building his up now.
The Ben Choi 996 style checklist is as follows:
-Add aerokit (preferably factory)
-Add adjustable coilovers to lower
-Add 19" wheels that fit w/o spacers and ideally 19x11s in the back to maximize the steamroller look (Champion RG5s, OZ IIIs, Work Brombachers, etc)
Do the above and you maximize the eye candy, but don't stick out so much that you look like you just stepped outta DUB magazine and ran into new money. People be like: damn that looks so different and so good, yet so factory. Elegant bling.
Here are some samples of MK1 aeros that do it up proper (and I'm 10000% positive they look that much better in person and in movement):
Ben, you and I are in 100% agreement on this one. I love the MK1 aero kit. Each of those cars pictured is stunning. I have the OEM aero kit waiting to be installed on mine. I don't have the rear skirts yet. I don't like the look from the back, but in all of those pictures it looks perfect. Thanks for posting the eyecandy.
Please post them pics up when you're good and ready.
Just for kicks, I'm going to sneak in an MK2 that I love (follows my guidelines above, but with a little more aftermarket pizazz):
Why it's so cool to have good offset wheels with dish and polished lip... see how that shiny silver lip shows even at a slight angle from head-on? That's money, right there. It looks so good when you see a car like that coming towards you as-is. It's insane.
P.S. The wheels on this one are the very nice Work Rezax II
Ben,
Great thread.
It's funny, when I first saw a Mk1 aero on the street (back in '99 or '00) I thought it looked terrible. Over the last few years I find them to be the best looking of all the 996's.
Cheers,
Stan
We're two peas in a pod, aren't we? Hopefully we can battle out in one thread, but be 911 buds in another.
I'm just trying to get a measure of my sense of style for the 911 and spruce this place up a bit leveraging the very fine examples we have amongst the 911 enthusiast community which is pretty damn small.
9.9 out of every 10 911s I see are bone stock. Yesterday, I saw a 997 being run through an automatic car wash with them huge rotating mops. Cars like the ones in this thread have obviously been modified with someone with a good eye for the 911 aesthetic, and more importantly, an undeniable love/passion for their hobby/toys.
This thread is a celebration of sorts.
Ben, great timing with this thread. I'm just starting to get my ideas together on how and what to do with mine. If anyone has cab pictures or ideas, please post.
You know I love your ride, Audion30s.
You just need them rear strakes and you're good. And I thought of you when I saw the white one on LMs. I know you want it!
mmmmmmm...LM's. That White vivid car was my desktop background for nearly a year prior to me purchasing the 996....and the primary reason that I nearly bought the car that Chad now owns. Alas, the red one was meant to be.
Nice thread Ben!! I agree with you in that the look of the full Aero on the 996 sitting on 19's is one of the best. I'm in the process of getting mine done. I need to find some rear strakes and then I'm set. Audi, i had yours as my wallpaper for a while
Ben, I love the the look of your 4s, it's straight Porsche with Class all over it.
I'm feelin' the power and the love in this thread!
Siq, siq cars, period.
And, Chad, I must admit, your whip with the black OEM 18s has grown on me. I didn't see the connection with the og Fuchs wheels until someone pointed it out.
It's definitely aggressive. Looking forward to seeing pics with the rear strakes on there. Glad you're keeping it.
And that's me in the pork4s behind you. j/k
Looking sharp. I like how the taco wing you can adjust the center blade up and down. Audi, Rob showed me that piece back when it was still in Microsoft land.
The people who have clowned on the egg shaped headlights of the MK1... please, go scramble yourself.
I love it and like it better than the headlights on my car. I have no shame.
Thanks man. FWIW - I have loved the MkI Aero since I first saw it in person. The lines, the style...The design departure from the "usual 911" was awesome. Still to this day, I cannot believe they gave in and went back to old. My bet - if the design trend continued, the 997 could have possibly been even MORE dramatic. Oh well...
LONG LIVE the MkI's
Totally agree with you. I don't find the 997 design to be better than the 996. Sure, mechanically, performance wise, Porsche did improve on the 996 as they should. I hope some sort of move to LEDs gives them the space to somehow pull off the impossible: Please those who grew up loving the past while concurrently attracting the newer guys to buy/continue to buy like yours truly.
Four observations about "add-ons" are:
1. The large rear wings seriously detract from the original lines of the car to the point where they look like grotesque appendages or birth defects.
2. Desecrating the lines of the car with aero stuff is like taking a beautiful woman and "interfering" with her natural beauty by putting substantial tattoos on her slender, lithe, shapely body.....sigh. Or worse, putting ear gauges in her ears!
3. There's no way that I can look at these add-ons (and outrageous wheels) without the word "bling" coming to mind.
4. The last lowered car I had annoyed me by forcing me to drive more slowly over bumps and driveway/parking lot entrance grades. I like the look of a lowered car, but don't like how the probability of damaging the car impinges on my enjoyment of driving it.
These comments come from someone who values ideas like original, preservation, restoration, and heritage when it comes to Porsches. For those who like mods, there are legions of people who simply enjoy the purity of our car's original design and equipment. The Porsche platform fortunately gives all of us the opportunity to enjoy the cars in any configuration - stock or modded. Cie le vie!
I respect what you have to say and it's clear we disagree on multiple fronts.
1. The wing is designed by Porsche, the whole kit is designed by Porsche
2. I call it putting on make-up if we're going the whole typical, predictable comparing a car to a female body thing... though I don't see any similarities between a car and a woman's form (thank goodness).
3. Bling is relative. It's a total pop culture word from the 90's still alive and kicking to this day because it is exhaustively resurrected by people who have no idea wtf bling means. I never hear the word used more than by the older guys who dress like they just stepped out of Walmart neatly epitomizing the words - Middle America. As a newer Porsche owner (1 year now), I have absolutely no allegiance to the Porsche brand. I respect it and in a sense am a steward of the 911 through my car so long as I own it. The cars above are definitely visually beautiful and if that is bling, that's awesome. Bling on, bud. And any car is a platform for mods, ain't it?
4. I have no issues with this whatsoever even in hilly Seattle.
Uh...and who are you? WTF are you on? The original MkI 996 Aero was designed by the factory for the Super Cup series. The original design of the car, INCLUDES this aero. It is not "bling" as you say. It is true functional equipment.
In fact, at the 1st notch up on the rear wing...the spoiler produces an extra 25 to 50lbs or so of down force (more or less, I forget). To front nose of the aero package actually produces down force as well and keeps the car planted at higher speeds.
This not simply "bolt-on bling" Added aftermarket is bling.
And lastly - why ruin a thread with some good MOJO. WTF?!
Hate is a word I've removed from my vocabulary.
I dislike it so much because:
1) Your car would look so much better without it and it'd be so easy (no $$) to do
2) Your car has all the other goodies including nice **** wheels
3) Consider the rear strakes to balance it out front to back
3.5) See #1
I absolutely agree. The taco wings remind me of something you might see a teenager put on his Civic.
The aero kits looked "tacked-on" to me, and I suspect that this is because that's exactly what they are--extraneous parts the car doesn't need, especially the parts behind the rear wheels. I've always thought it just looked like plastic glued to the bottom of the fender.
I couldn't agree more.
Chad, why so acerbic? I mean, really.... "who are you?" and "WTF are you on?" seems like an overreaction to someone who simply has a different opinion than yours. Peace.
I'm not sure what you mean in your response to tooloud10. What does it mean when you post an "attention *****" icon and "p.s. not everything is about you?"
Hi, chsu74...since tooloud10 was directly commenting on my earlier post, I'm not seeing how he was off topic. We're all commenting about mods and how they work to either enhance a car's looks/performance or detract from it.
I thought both tooloud10 and I were being quite civil and calm about it all. And I think there's room in a thread about aeros for all kinds of opinions if they're rendered constructively and without malice. Sorry you see the need to snipe at me and/or tooloud10.
Redridge--You're killing me bud. I'm trying to resist the temptation of doing anything to my Millennium that can't be undone. But your car looks fan-friqin-tastic.
Thank you sir, I know exactly what your saying... I looked at it this way, there is 911 ME edition out there and there is only 1 like mines.... If you had the car long enough and are looking to change it up a little... I would do what makes you happy, just keep all the original parts. Its easy to change back... but costly.
No, what you posted below is off topic, i.e. you're actually referring to a subject from another thread entirely. That's pretty much the definition of "off topic".
tooloud10: What do you think of the other aerokits....02-04 and also the 997 aero's. Just trying to understand if you dont like this particular kit or kits in general.
Thanks Ben for starting this thread. It's nice to know that others out there share the same taste for the MK1 aero. I for one have always liked the lines and the look even though most people I come across beg to differ.
I think we've all heard at one point or another someone saying:
"that wing looks like a taco and is ugly"
or
"what are those things sticking out of the back bumper?"
In my experience I think the MK1 look has created the most interesting disparity between love and hate. And I think at the time this very different approach showed that Porsche could not only be an innovative manufacturer of fine automobiles but that they were also capable of innovation in design.
So if anything, we should feel even better with our choice and that we stuck with it regardless of what the general population thinks. Afterall, isn't this what being an auto enthusiast is all about?
I've got both on my cars Mk1 on the 986 and Mk2 on the 996. I like the Mk2's a little better but I think they are both great designs.
I do like seeing all of these great looking Mk 1's and I love the aerokit look!!
Long live the Taco....
Damn guys, Cars all look amazing. I would do it in a minute, but to spend a bit over 5 g's on a car worth range of mid to high 20's and is 8 years old seems hard to justify (well at least to my S.O.).
I was expecting a different kind of picture.
The cars look great. The taco wing has grown on me over the years--but I can't say that I like the boxster headlights--sorry.
Nice pad LS. The view from your house down into the valley must be amazing in all 4 seasons.
BTW, all this has got me thinking that I should part out all my factory aero bits and mods converting it back to stock. Move into a prefab/cookie cutter house in the middle of nowhere. Oh, I should start buying and wearing suits off the rack at Warehouse for Men.
Now, that's styling.
THanks Chao
The views are very nice, we are blessed...loving every minute.
BTW Chao, love to see you in the latest from the Mens Warehouse, I know you got style homeboy
Thanks Ben,
Picture me rollin'
jmchris, loving your 996.
Have you thought about clear side markers?
Either way you got it going on
This is my dream 911, honestly - I'd put the rest of the cash to get that Ferrari for having forsaken the 997 GT2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1XjTBthW5Q
19" BBS LMs, baby boy, just look at how it sits and turns and moves along that Japanese asphalt
Great thread Ben. You guys have some gorgeous aero cars, both the cabs and the coupes. The MK1 GT3 is one of my favorite cars of all time. Here are pictures of the only two that I have ever seen for sale in the US. One was in South Lake Tahoe...Chuck Jones considered buying it, but it could only be driven 2,500 miles per year. The other is a track car...didn't really care for the tail, but I loved the paint-job.
The last GT-3 pictured has a tail that looks almost as good as the taco tail.
I have never been a fan of the stuck on slabs behind the rear wheels. I know Porsche had a reason to do this, but I think they rushed it or something. When you look at the Mk2 on my GT3 below, you'll see a more subtle treatment behind the rear wheels which I think works much better.
There was a comment earlier about needing the rear slabs to help balance the car with the Mk1 kit. Not sure about that. I can see the point, I just wish the rear slabs were about half as "in your face" as they are.
Wing style and 19" wheels? To each his own. I'm sticking with 18" wheels.
Cheers,
I happen to agree on this.
From some angles it looks really goodt, from behind it flares a touch too much for my taste.
I have yet to see one up close, need to do so.
Wonder if the MKII would work?
Your GT3 is King, another picture wouldn't hurt
I can see why some would say it looks tacked on - I've read plenty of comments expressing this very sentiment. To this I would say without the strakes there to complete the kit, the rear end looks weaker than a bone stock MK1 because you got all this stuff everywhere except the **** end. It looks empty and from the side shot view, the rear end just drops off and is not balanced out visually. It makes your MK1 rear one of the weakest in the 911 butt kingdom.
Something needs to be put there whether you go OEM or aftermarket, but I am not aware of any aftermarket companies (e.g. Techart) making an aero bit for that rear end like they do for the 996 C4S/Turbo bumper.
Ben, just noticed this awesome thread. I am DEFINITELY going for the rear fins. Frankly, it'll be one of the cheaper upgrades. And once you see how the line continues from the rocker panels (side) to the rear bumper, it absolutely looks naked without it. Now, waiting for parts, a little paint, and an install.
Before and after photos posted a few months back........ I'm quite proud of the way she turned out...
The thread can be seen here
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=37993
I mean this is clear and present evidence.... 1000000% improvement.
Man I love cali weather. look at that. in seattle, we've had 10 days of mostly sunny since November 2007. 10 days and that was all 30-40s temp.... insane man.
Yea, it's tougher to swallow cuz that car could look so good. I can't stand those discount tire 19s. I've seen them on several 911s. We make fun of Civics and Jettas... I'd laugh at this car harder.
Not sure if this has been done before (I have sigs and avatars turned off as my Rennlist settings), but would be cool to see someone make an MK1 aero "badge" that people can put into their signature as it is a good looking, exclusive club.
Not quite as exclusive as this, but certainly good enough via power by numbers.
Even a GT1 looks better with aftermarket wheels.
"Hi, my name is Ben and I want to order a set of wheels... I want the K-28s with your standard anodized centers."
"Ok, which vehicle?"
"Porsche GT1"
"GT2 or 3 you mean?"
"No, GT1"
"Let me check the database on that one as I'm not sure we've ever made a set for one of those before..."
I fixed it for you.......
Sorry, I couldn't resist all in good fun. (I quickly slink away before he gets out the turbo and leaves me standing at the light)......
Just noticed this thread. Here's mine. Man, I gotta take some better pictures. I have a ROW M030 kit sitting in my garage for the past year and a half... maybe I'll get some time this summer to put it on!
Cheers.
Yes, I bottomed it at least twice. It was always a joke with a friend that I would lose a jug (metaphorically like an air-cooled) on a hump or speed bump and a piston would be dangling out of the bottom of the car. Oh yea, everything is bigger in Texas, even speed bumps.......
My list is from those who "hated" on characteristics of my car.........I knew you would blast it.
Dont worry, the light yes, but the twisties I am sure the 986 will leave me in the dust. Not to mention my track skills, never been, but probably weak............
Now drag racing............
1. Tiptronic (not bashing 'em though)
2. Over 100k miles with a big (to me) car payment
3. My friends turbo (my new car) offered for a good price
4. Buyer offered a price well above what a RL'er would pay for my 996
5. Because you guys made me have an insecurity about driving a slushbox and I just wanted to fit in..........
I do miss it though, the car was fairly clean and looked to have little wear. Carpet and paint were perfect, really good for a 100k car.
If anyone could of figured out if the manual swap is possible, I would still own it. There were to many unknowns and I didnt feel like swapping the manual in and the car not running correctly or start up at all. Then, facing the task of swapping everything back to Tiptronic.
Sorry, Red, just saw your post...
I'm not a huge fan of any of the aero kits. I think I'm one of the few owners that likes the "plain" look. I think it's because I've always liked older 911s and my car looks more like a natural progression from the classic look like below. Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread--just trying to answer Red's question...
Cory, I think you could've stopped at #1 and that would be plenty reason for ditching it
at least your having fun now, with a slight hearing loss.
fair enough, I also like the classic lines, it is what gave us the shape of what it is today and believe it or not, I consider myself old school... when the 998 comes out or whatever is next after that, maybe one day I will be writing the same stuff you just did... cars and machines may change but, people relatively dont change... peace
Funny stuff...that car is ridiculous. It doesn't even seem reasonable to drive it on the street. It makes the Carrera GT look tame. Where was that pic taken? I've never seen one on the street.
I am purposely trying to avoid looking at all of these nicely styled rides! I'm trying to take a slow route to modding. But you guys are making it tough on me!
Ok, here is my small contribution to this thread. 1999 MK1 Factory Aero
Yes she has big feet but she is very light on them
Front tire is a 275 mounted on a 9.5" rim and the rears are 315 mounted on an 11.5" rim. Wheels are 3 piece Fikse Mach V weighing 18lbs front and 18.5 lbs rear.
Enjoy
Well I have been contemplating the MK1 kit for my 99 for several months. The problem is this.....the value on 996s keeps dropping, and dropping more daily it seems....retail on 99s with 28k miles equals 27-30k.....If I spend 5k on the kit and another 1500-2500 to paint and install....then what is gained other than a Mk1'd car that looks better (and I agree it does look better sans the rear bumper gizmos., I am not sure of). Now for me at least I got a deal on my 99. But I am not seeing anymore value added by adding 7500.00 in bodywork....at most maybe another 1000.00. And Geez...then 19s on top of that - so another 4-6k with wheels and tires. So is it worth it to me to do this....probably not, but was any of it (plenum intake, lights, SSk, shifter, and a bunch more) worth it? You betcha....
or just wait for a low mileage used TT in the 40-50k range....which they are falling to around here......hmmmmmmmmmm
Yoops, $40-50K is a lot more money than $8K.
The car is a toy, value it as such. I would do it if you plan on keeping the car a while. If you plan on dumping it in a year, maybe not so much.
Paul great looking car, love the racing tires. Damn isn't the front a bear to turn with that much rubber?
You should update your avatar with one of the pics posted.
Ben, you ruined my surprise. My car goes in Saturday for it's MK1 Aerokit and yes, I did buy the strakes for it from your friend. I should have it back pretty quick and will post pictures.
Paul
understand the Toy issue...I built a World Challenge Mustang for the Street in the 90s with over 50k in mods on it....hate to tell you what it sold for.....my point is that I would have almost 40-50k in it by the time I did all the mods like Mk1, 19s and full exhaust....I already have put close to 8k in other mods.....all in a 996 that I can only get 31k max out of.....For this kind of money it would be smarter IMO just to get a TT and be done with it....But the MK1 kit sure is sweet.....especially with 19s....
po, those 997 19s look huge since it's got no lip.
i love the full aerokit, bud. maybe i'll see you around town if i ever get my butt up there to party in vancity.
Wow... you have changed.
I thought I'd get a lashing from you since the 997 wheels really aren't a proper fit. I'm aware of that, but I don't take my car too seriously, so not too big of a deal for me.
Cheers,
William
Ben, I really like it, I was never a big fan of the Taco wing so for me it works. It is also nice because you do not see it too often. I think I have only seen one other Rennlister with the same setup.
Hello all.
These are not the best pictures but I just got the car back from having my MK1 Aero kit installed on my 2001 C2 and I love it. I want to thank all the people that helped me with the OEM parts and instructions on how to install them. Also, I would like to thank Ben for his advice and contact info on getting the rear strakes for it. I think they look great.
The wheels are still my winter wheels since I have not changed them yet so don’t be too tough on me.
Better pictures too come soon.
Paul
Looks great Paul, very unique. I would put a chin spoiler on the front bumper to complete the look... plus its under $100, good job. I still can believe thats DD's rear spoiler. Parts get around in the P-world.
This needs a bump and I am warming up to the MK1 rear Taco wing. What do you all think? People who do not know Porsche love the way my car looks with the TT wing.
Thanks,
Paul
Paul, not a bad thread to revive, several cars here set the standard for what's possible on the 996.
I prefer the look of the taco wing.
Gotta say these wheels looked great on Chad's former car too:
Mr. C4.. that am absolutely jealous you have an genuine GT3 CS MK1.........we need those in the US.... i prefer those over the MK2...... but unfortnately i like the 997 GT3 more....
Thanks for all the nice comments. Agree, the MK1 aerokit looks so much better than the MK2, it really deserves to be called aerokit while the MK2 is just too square.
Here are a few more pics of my car from last summer at the Nurburgring.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ht=nurburgring
Ciao,
J.
Oh Heck yeah!! Dude, it looks sweet! Hmmm, could I pull it off with the MKII wing, I wonder. I seem to be 50/50 like the rest of the MKI aero crowd, but you definitely got me thinking harder now.
Okay - spoke with Dayton - mine is being picked up for return tomorrow.
I was told that the DPS wing was identical to OEM and it wasn't, it didn't have the adjustable biplane wing. I'm so disappointed.
Yup, I'm really disappointed. I was sooo looking forward to doing the install... I was ready to start on it today, but I can't do it. The wing isn't right. I was promised identical to OEM and it's not. It looks the same, but is not an adjustable upper plane. On top of that I wasn't happy with the quality of the paint job... so reluctantly it's going back to CA and I'll have to work out a Plan B.
Looks guys - I found a clone of my car - only 40 minutes away from where I live... it's pretty scary, it even has the same CF interior parts as mine.
http://www.vehix.com/inventory/Vehic...07&pagesize=25
Pretty cool.
...Tim, you know you want it.
ack! just noticed it's a carrera 4.
NOT DPS Motorsports, Trust me on this
and Welcome to Rennlist!
There are MANY vendors that sell them. Suncoast Porsche has good prices, also good to watch ebay for some bargains. I would stick with factory parts for at the very least the bumper. Good luck!
The complete aero kit on your white car looks sweet, especially with the sport design wheels. Congratulations. When you get tired of the look, a little powdercoating on the wheels would transform the car. Imagine the wheel centers powdercoated blue with matching Carrera side graphics like the 73 911RS.
I just sold my BMW yesterday and I now have the extra money to get my aero kit painted. I can't wait.
Thanks for the kind words.
I look forward to seeing your car when it's done. You were instrumental in me finally getting this wing - your spoiler went to Yasuro and Yasuro's wing came to me - musical wings.
Well, I think I'm now done with exterior mods. I'm a fan of authentic styling... the car now has the MK 1 GT3 look and I like it that way.
I'll pass on the winglets, as IMHO they look like cheap and tacky afterthoughts - I've never quite understood the point of sticking those ugly things onto the back bumper.
Wayne, you *** is looking good..... no, wait.... I meant to say that you have a nice looking ***.... uhmm.... er.... the wing looks good on your cars ***!
I know a lot of P people love the natural Porsche Design of the 996 but I think the after market kits, and lowering the car really makes the car the most beautiful of all cars. Although there are some limitations to lowering and the 19inch wheels, when I look and drive this car I am most happy, it is the ultmate Prosche this side of one hundred grand.
Here's an updated picture of my 996 aero during the Carolinas PCA DE at Virginia International Raceway. It never felt like a 10 year old car the entire time - absolutely amazing piece of machinery.
I rode in my instructor's 1999 996 (also a mk1 aero), and only the suspension and exhaust had been modified to improve performance on his now dedicated track car, and it was an unbelievable experience. The power and handling were incredible.
Bob
Didn't see any Cobalt blues so I had to add mine. Just recently painted the Sport Classic II's. I agree with smshirk, I need to lower mine as well.
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lOWERING CAR WILL GIVE i THINK THE BEST SUSPENSION PERFORMANCE, BUT THIS WILL LIMIT YOUR SPEED BUMP AND DRIVE WAY DEXTERITY. i AM STILL DECIDING WHAT MY CAR IS FOR IT MIGHT BE JUST FOR THE OPEN ROAD AND THE JETTA FOR COFFEE BUMPS.
Does anybody have any pictures of a 996 with a aero kit however without the tail (guards red if possible). I have all of the pieces except the tail. I am thinking of putting on the bumper and side skirts however I cannot figure out if it will look good. My wife would be much happier if I didn't spend any money on a wing.
Not very common, but I think it looks great.
Funny how this thread lives on, but it's worthy.
I'm also considering getting "Aero'd" since it looks like I'll be holding on to mine for a few more years....
Porsche doesn't recommend running a car this way; increasing front downforce and not rear.
Main question is how much do you want to spend? They range in price from $1500 for replica to $3500 OEM (suncoast) to $5000 dealer/list price
Porsche does want you to buy the whole kit and do make it difficult to buy the individual components, but actually, it's the other way around. Porsche strongly recommends against running with the wing alone, as that puts too much downforce on the rear and makes handling a little dangerous up above 100mph as the front gets a little light (although I've heard of it happening as low as 90 mph).
As for running with sideskirts and front bumper you will not have any issues with handling there I had mine up way north of 100mph without any issues - in fact many people run that way.
...OEM is getting increasingly hard to find, so if you see one snag it quickly. If you read through the threads on this topic from this summer you will see how many people had problems with trying to find good aero wings.
Wayne, Looks great, what are the specs on your car? (year/miles)
I have been thinking about those headlight trims, I am still on the fence. OEM side skirts?
Thnx for info
Ed
Thanks! It's a '99 and has a little over 62K miles on it. Everything, with the exception of the headlight covers is OEM and in really great shape... I try to look after it - not concours quality, but in better condition than a lot of cars on the road.
The headlight covers were installed by the previous owner. I was told that they were Gemballa parts.
I love the track pictures guys. Thanks for posting them.
Wayne, my Porsche has been parked for a couple weeks due to a slipping clutch. I now have a little more sympathy for you guys who live back east, where 911s can't be driven year around...I'm having Porsche withdrawls. Santa is bringing me a LWFW and I will still need to buy a HD clutch and pressure plate (Spec stage 2). Between that and my project cars, my mod budget is shot. Looking at this post and seeing the parts on a shelf in my garage is as close as I'm going to get for a while.
I can empathize on the impatience to get the jobs done on the car, but as you guessed, no sympathy on not being able to drive the car. I can't wait to hear how the clutch job goes.
This time of year drives me nuts.... usually I at least get to drive the car a little in December, but not this year... at this rate looks like it will be March before the car comes out to play again.
Gotta hate Winter. At least winter is not as long in PA as it was when I lived in MA.
Thanks,
My black 996 was my first Porsche and unfortunately, it was totaled a little over 2 years ago when a younger kid hit me on the way home from work. Killed the car and damaged me in the process (the car gave it's life to save mine). I replaced it with the silver 99 about a year ago now.
I really miss that black car as it was nicely built. PSS9's GT3 control arms, sways, sport seats, big reds, SSk, Fabspeed exhaust, intake and a fantastic alignment. That car was brilliantly neutral and you got TTOS at will. It had a steep learning curve but my goodness was it fun. The previous owner was a track nut and took it on the one lap. The silver one is near stock (Fabspeed is all it has) and is much more forgiving but not as quick. It still will TTOS but it's less predictable (consistent) with the right tire pressures. I suspect the 36k mile stock suspension needs to be freshened up.
My contribution to keeping this thread alive. I picked up this aero MKI about 2 months ago. All is well, and having a blast driving it.
Schwabische Auto
2001 C4 Aero, Arctic Silver, 6sp MT
2008 BMW M3 e93, Jet Black, M-DCT
I thought I had put mine on, but I guess not. I love the aero, but understand the opposition. I actually like both on the older cars, but I think the 996 is much better looking w/ aero. I think pro-aero crowd love the looks of and the sport of racing and the anit-aero are more street car types. Just a theory. A great friend of mine is a big vintage car guy (has a 61 E-type and a 66 Aston DB6) and he prefers the non-aero kinda cars.
Anyway... here are some pics.
You've got an interesting setup, the Cab with interior and aero, interesting.
Looks great, I like the A6 Variant in the background, too, nice combo pic....
Thanks, those are the things that attracted me to it. The pictures are previous owner's so the A6 is not mine. I need to get out and get some nice pics downtown Charleston, just can't find the tripod right now.
Thanks a lot. I just realized the previous owner, TurboChad, posted it a couple of times a few pages ago (with different wheels). Anyway, it has PSS9s and wheel spacers.
Schwabische - Thanks. Two weeks ago my dealer quoted me $64 for the front spoiler. Not sure about the gurney lip.
Posted elsewhere on rennlist, but not here yet. Here is my Mk1 C2 with Factory Aero-kit.
How do you like the mesh in the front?
In the German country side:
In the Kiel harbor:
Sorry about the smashed bugs, casualties of the road trip to Germany
Shadows playing on vesuvio metallic
From a practical standpoint, I love the mesh in your spoiler. I don't enjoy cleaning out the radiators.
Audi - I hope you're wife is doing OK. Please send me your names on a PM and I'll keep you both in my family's thoughts and prayers
I had to post these photos from my last DE. What a car!
Happy Holidays!
Bob
My favorite thread has been resurrected! More Aero Mk1 pics please.
My contribution to the resurrection of the thread.
(I apologize for my wife's ugly SUV in the background)
Although the aero kits for 996's and 997's look nice I'm not too sure they are allowing more mph to hp due to extra down force and drag. Does anybody have the stats related to hp? It is a nice ida to have the down force but just wondering what's up. My superbike doesn't have much down force and borders on 200mph easy. I don't expect too many vehicles to break the 200mph mark due to even aerodynamics not helping much no matter how good they are since hp is the keep to get by that mark.
Its bad driving Pcars before and after playing sports.
Your reactions are sharper and adrenline is pumping after. Gotta make sure the radar detector is on for sure...
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Lets keep this thread going!
Im looking for a factory Aero I car myself. Im torn between the MKI with factory Aero or a 996 C4S but I have a feeling the Aero I car will win. Ideally a Carrera 4 with the factory kit.
Oh man this thread has me itchin to find the right car!
Great minds think alike... this was my winter project, but I'm looking at a long term basement rehab this winter so am looking to let this go.
99 C4. 62K. Needs a motor and a little TLC, but a very solid start. PM if you're interested.
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Gorgeous cars in this thread guys.
All of them look so clean, makes me feel bad about washing my car total of 3 times since I got it in July. I drove it through the rain a few times, so that can be counted as a wash too.
Seal grey does not show dirt at all. I realize how dirty it is when I look at the 100s of dead bugs on my frond bumper and windshield. Going to wash it...later this week.
I've been trying to get a buddy of mine to see if he can CNC some custom blanking plates out of abs to cover the entire area once you remove the bumperettes to give it a cleaner euro look.
Wouldn't that be time consuming and cost prohibitive?
Funny story, the Harold Washington Chicago library got some 3d printers in but they won't let the public use them. Library workers use them to occasionally print some trinkets here and there for kids. Another excellent use of our tax dollars. I need to make a friend over there so they can let me 3d print a custom oil cap at least.
I just installed painted bumperettes and OEM taco (both sourced through forums). I Love the look. I was temped to go aftermarket for the taco, but patiently waited for one to pop up. I need to find the correct harness to get the purge fan running. I think it is a great look for a 99. I need the front bumper (or splitter) to complete it, but I have some maintenance to do first, as I wait for an OEM front cover to pop up
Time consuming...no, it can run all day. Cost prohibitive: not if they're not too thick. Anyone actually interested in black PLA plastic bumperette blanks?
I totally agree, the rear slap on slabs look awful. Other than that, the MK1 Aero kit is beautiful. In fact, they are aging so gracefully that I think that MK1 911s are soon going to be highly sought after.
Glad you found the car! When i bought mine, it had the same headlight covers but i removed the. And sold them on ebay for$100 lol... I think the GT3 mk1 does not come with litronics so think about it
WOW !!! As much as I dislike the "TACO" spoiler generally speaking... That is one GORGEOUS Car!!! I don't mind the taco one bit on that sweet ride...Just amazing
Well mine is a 99 Mk1 996 with only the front bumper being aero and turbo twist 17" wheels. But, give me time... On the plus side, I am blessed with this awesome pastel yellow.
Splitter, diffuser and side skirts were fabricated by a friend of mine. Everything is aluminum and airplane rivets. Functional and beautiful. Gotta love the 996.
Me too. You can actually see how the aero lines of the kit match up with the taco under full deflection...less noticeable when the spoiler is flat. The aero on the rear bumper has always been an eye sore to me...maybe I'm going crazy, but it seems less offensive if the taco is fully deflected.
^^^ Sweet rides. Now we just need a pic of the engine bay and underneath the engine too.
It's very rare we get to see a true mk1 gt3 on this side of the pond.
Thanks! I had a 944 Turbo, chipped with Fabspeed exhaust. Loved the wooOOSSHH! Sold it and got the 996. Love everything about the car, new and digital. Looking for the best of both worlds, hoping a 996TT will do the trick. :-)
I just saw that example with the diffuser..... maybe it appeals to some from a cosmetic standpoint but there isn't any performance coming from that mod.
We have a new Genuine Porsche tri-guard cover that was ordered by accident for Aero pack 996. $99 shipped to anyone that is interested.
They're usually $130.
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(picture of same style cover for Boxster)
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What do you folks think of these two (see attached screen shots). I have the Noah now on my GTO. It's nice. I've had the other cover in the past too, and it was good. This one will only be used indoors and I want high breath ability.
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His hands are slightly smaller than a size large, it must be excruciating finding gloves that fit perfect.
Adam, are you looking specifically for an all-weather? My indoor cover fits perfect over the taco wing, nice and snug.
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I think I know the answer to this, but will 993 turbo wheels work on this car? The guy I bought it from has two rears he was going to give me as spares, but I don't think they will work. Part number 993.362.140.00. 10Jx18-ET40. I'd imagine they would stick way out . . . Just bought new Pirelli Rossos for it. 285x30 18 rears.