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YOUR RESEARCHCould this be anything other than bore scoring?

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oil filling the voids between the rings and cylinders

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This is due to the oil filling the voids between the rings and cylinders.

Could this be anything other than bore scoring?
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Fill voids between the rings and cylinders

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This is due to the oil filling the voids between the rings and cylinders.

Could this be anything other than bore scoring?
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Fill voids between the rings and cylinders

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Suggestion

This is due to the oil filling the voids between the rings and cylinders.

Could this be anything other than bore scoring?

Test best are often the problematic cylinders

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Due to this the cylinders that test the best are often the problematic cylinders.

Could this be anything other than bore scoring?

Test waste of time

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Suggestion

This makes a compression or a leak down test a waste of time with these engines that do have scoring.

Could this be anything other than bore scoring?
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Fill voids between the rings and cylinders

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Suggestion

This is due to the oil filling the voids between the rings and cylinders.

Could this be anything other than bore scoring?

Test best are often the problematic cylinders

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Suggestion

Due to this the cylinders that test the best are often the problematic cylinders.

Could this be anything other than bore scoring?

Test waste of time

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Suggestion

This makes a compression or a leak down test a waste of time with these engines that do have scoring.

Could this be anything other than bore scoring?
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These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

oil filling the voids between the rings and cylinders

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Reported cause

This is due to the oil filling the voids between the rings and cylinders.

Could this be anything other than bore scoring?
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Get it fixed correctly, maintain it the right way and never worry about it again.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

2003 C4, 111k miles. You Tube You Tube

POST 2Original post

Quotes source post: 17489150

That definitely sounds like piston slap associated with bore scoring. Need to confirm with a bore scope. Watch part 4 of Jake Raby�s series on the subject.

POST 4Original post

I think you know the answer, unfortunately��.

POST 5Original post

It does have a slightly higher pitch (tone) than other sounds I�ve heard with bore scoring.

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 17489553

To me the second recording with the belt back on and the car not still on fast idle from a cold start sounds so much like my car did at a point during the progression of the disease.

POST 7Original post

Quotes source post: 17489150

Is that all the time, or just at cold start?

POST 9Original post

Do a compression test, if it�s that loud your should have some cylinders that will have really low compression.

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 17490183

Nope. Bore scoring will boost compression values all the way till stage 4. This is due to the oil filling the voids between the rings and cylinders. This makes a compression or a leak down test a waste of time with these engines that do have scoring. I see cars all the time that pass both tests, and have confirmed scoring. Due to this the cylinders that test the best are often the problematic cylinders. Visual inspection is the only way to conclusively determine scoring, and severity of the scoring.

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 17489772

Subscribing on this one... Mine started making a similar noise within the last week. However, its only at start up and lasts about 1-2min, then goes away until the next cold start. May be time to go down the rabbit hole of flat6 vids

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Well, after a prolonged diagnostic period, bore scoring is confirmed. 4.0 resleeve here we come! It’s a good thing they have appreciated somewhat.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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POST 15Original post

That's a bummer. Sorry man. One of the reasons I sold my C2 last month.

POST 16Original post

Quotes source post: 17821501

yep, that's bore scoring. sorry to see it.

POST 17Original post

Quotes source post: 17804013

Good attitude. Get it fixed correctly, maintain it the right way and never worry about it again. 4.0 will be super fun!

POST 19 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

It is back from LNE! Just waiting on forged rods…

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