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eay way to make sure your cables are adjusted perfectly.

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Install 997 unit and it is a great improvement

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Just installed a 997 unit and it is a great improvement.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

Install stock 997 shifter in mine

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On the subject of the shifter, I also installed a stock 997 shifter in mine, which replaced a B&M that was installed by a prior owner.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

Replace b&m

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Going to order a 997 shifter off of ebay, replace the B&M that's in there and then do the shift right kit I think.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

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On the subject of the shifter, I also installed a stock 997 shifter in mine, which replaced a B&M that was installed by a prior owner.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

Use b&m and the 997 - the 997 unit stuck

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I've used the B&M and the 997 - the 997 unit stuck.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question
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eay way to make sure your cables are adjusted perfectly.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

Check where the cables mount

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Btw, you should also check where the cables mount on the transmission brackets under the car.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

Install 997 unit and it is a great improvement

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Just installed a 997 unit and it is a great improvement.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

Install stock 997 shifter in mine

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On the subject of the shifter, I also installed a stock 997 shifter in mine, which replaced a B&M that was installed by a prior owner.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

Reconnect shift cables

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The green piece is to center the shifter when reconnecting the shift cables.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

Replace b&m

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Going to order a 997 shifter off of ebay, replace the B&M that's in there and then do the shift right kit I think.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

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On the subject of the shifter, I also installed a stock 997 shifter in mine, which replaced a B&M that was installed by a prior owner.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

Replace entire shifter

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Go with the Function First solution or replace the entire shifter with a 997 unit.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question

Use b&m and the 997 - the 997 unit stuck

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I've used the B&M and the 997 - the 997 unit stuck.

Picked up my C4S - Pictures and a shifter slip question
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Just came over from several years of BMW ownership. Went from this: IMG_9237_zpsc793bb3b.jpg IMG_9244_zps0eedb0e3.jpg upgraded to this 20140315_192022_zps3c691276.jpg to this 2014_1120_11090900_zpsrud7gkdu.jpg to this DSCF7715_zps91fe9d1f.jpg DSCF0266_zps7coy3iqh.jpg and recently this DSC_0517_zpsoenb9vmy.jpg But when the right car popped up, I made the decision to snag it. Yesterday I flew from FL to GA and drove it back. 2003 C4s w/35k miles Speed Yellow/Grey Full Leather Sport Seats Porsche Sport Exhaust Guard Red Belts 12490138_10205761564139623_1637718631_o_zpstxqwnf29.jpg 12489992_10205761563939618_105625254_o_zpsg7a4bpm4.jpg 12495159_10205740885182662_8862930016695643640_n_zpsh4crcbob.jpg 12516955_10205768798520478_617743358_o_zps19uwttvx.jpg 12511102_10205768798680482_1471467410_o_zpsavz0yrux.jpg 12511209_10205768824681132_1235192314_o_zpsqdwakxuj.jpg Now for the shifter question: Is this normal? 2003 C4s Shifter Play - YouTube

POST 2Original post

Link locked... I'll say it again the c4s pulls off yellow better than any other Porsche.

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Congratulations on the purchase! It's a very special car, and I think you'll find it's the best of all worlds - an amalgamation of all your previous cars. Just maybe not the trunk space... Unfortunately, that shifter play is not unusual for a Porsche; especially when you're talking about aged and worn out components. A majority of that play is coming from the shifter unit itself. Check out the SHIFT-RIGHT Solution that tightens up the entire shifter mechanism with tighter tolerance aluminum components and ball bearings. Also, you may want to have a look at your engine mounts - the sagging exhaust tips are a telltale sign that they've worn out. Replace them, and you'll be rewarded with much tighter and precise shifts. Good luck with your newly acquired Porsche, and don't be afraid to daily drive it!

POST 6Original post

Checked my 2005 996 4S and your seems looser than what mine is. Was that in 1st gear or neutral? If 1st gear much looser. If neutral mine wants to go to the right/center under what feels like spring tension. Stock shifter in yours? Pretty sure mine is stock.

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Best way to check if it's in the shifter mechanism itself is to pull the shift boot/**** off, and have a look underneath. Hold the white plastic shifter yoke with your left hand (to ensure the shifter cables aren't being moved), and wiggle the shift lever with your right hand. Any resultant play is originating from the shifter mechanism.

POST 10Original post

Very Nice. Congrats and welcome. You got yourself the fastest color. Dont mind what KC says lol

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I'll try that. Now that you mention it, I see what you're talking about with the tips sagging. I'm ordering some parts and will add those mounts. Looked up the DIY and it seems fairly straightforward. The whole engine seems to have a lot of movement when shifting. Thanks Haha, after the M3 I didn't think I would buy yellow again, but I couldn't resist.

POST 12Original post

Check out the 997 stock shifter. About 30% shorter throw and MUCH tighter thnn stock and very cost effective too.

POST 13Original post

With only 35K on your car, seems like a lot of play. A friend of mine who has a Boxster with 170K has a similar amount of play. Great looking car! Our Cayman pulls of the yellow quite well too!

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Btw, you should also check where the cables mount on the transmission brackets under the car. The cables may be knocked off their brackets.

POST 15Original post

Ummm, Speed Yellow, my fav. Lapis Blue and Basalt Black being runners up. Makes me miss my 993 Cab that was Speed Yellow/Black/Black. Enjoy!

POST 16Original post

Great looking car....I really like the yellow.

POST 17Original post

Congratulations. You got yourself a great looking 996!

POST 19Original post

Stunning example! I have an 04 C4S with similar play in the shifter. Just installed a 997 unit and it is a great improvement. Not too hard to do the installation - just lots and lots of hidden screws need to be removed to get the console off. Piece of cake from there. I got mine on eBay for a good price - 997 424 010 00. The green piece is to center the shifter when reconnecting the shift cables. Also, nice M5 :-)

POST 20Original post

Great looking C4S Connor - congratulations! You'll get no guff from me. Even though only Guards Red cars get the extra 25 hp bump from the factory (most people know about that little secret even though Porsche officially denies it), Speed Yellow is right there with it. My shopping list was GR, SY, cobalt blue and then I also considered seal gray if it had a little bling added. Frankly, there are only a couple of colors I don't care for on a 996. Also, thanks for sharing the pics of your previous rides. That was a sweet little black/dark purple Boxster you had there.

POST 21Original post

Go with the Function First solution or replace the entire shifter with a 997 unit. I've used the B&M and the 997 - the 997 unit stuck. Also look at some of the solid linkages while you're in there. Congrats!

POST 22Original post

what's stiffens up the 996 shifter more, the shift right solution or the 997 swap?

POST 23Original post

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The 997 shifter won't do anything to minimize the shifter play - the internal mechanisms are identical to the earlier 996 units. The only difference is the 997 shifter shortens shifter throw by 15% - so it's a nice compromise if you're looking for a shorter shifter throw, but the 35% reduction of the OEM and aftermarket shifters is too short for your liking. (shorter shift throw = more shift effort) The SHIFT-RIGHT Solution is compatible with either the 996 or the 997 units. Check out this full write-up I recently posted comparing OEM vs Cup vs SHIFT-RIGHT upgraded shifters: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...n-upgrade.html And for those interested in removing the play and flex from your shifters, be sure to check out the group buy going on now thru Feb 1! https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-ma...shift-kit.html

POST 24Original post

thanks. great explanation. that play always bugged me. once I have my motor back together I'll be placing an order with you

POST 25Original post

sweet yellow! I just did a 997 shifter swap, got it off ebay for $150. The 15% shorter throw is perfect as I didn't like the farther forward reach for third and 5th with the stock 996. If you don't like it, easy to put it back to stock, verses destroying your OEM shifter bushing to do the B&M short shifter. The green neutral rigging tool is cheap, hunt around you can get them for $6-8, don't pay the $20 off of ebay other. eay way to make sure your cables are adjusted perfectly. Great Pictorial DIY here, from a 997 but it's very very very similar on the 996. https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...placement.html

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Thanks! I miss my miata. Considering building a Exocet as a track car. Check them out. Thanks for all the suggestions. Going to order a 997 shifter off of ebay, replace the B&M that's in there and then do the shift right kit I think.

POST 27Original post

go big and get the GT3 kit http://www.suncoastparts.com/product/997SCU.html

POST 28Original post

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Just to clarify, in case you liked the current shifter throw lengths with the B&M, the SHIFT-RIGHT is compatible with that (and other) short shift kits.

POST 29Original post

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+1 Nice pics!!! And great color! p.s. - you almost lost me at the Prius... really!?@!

POST 30Original post

Hard to comment about the shifter since I put a B&M short shift kit in my '02. Not sure about the color of the car and the red "S" - I've got the same!! Looks great. Enjoy. I'm enjoying mine! (trying to rotate the photo, having some problems!)

POST 31Original post

Nice pic. I have driven my C4S in light snow a few times, but nothing like that. On the subject of the shifter, I also installed a stock 997 shifter in mine, which replaced a B&M that was installed by a prior owner. In a colder climate I found the short shifter to be too notchy when cold. The 997 shifter has been much better for me with decently short throws and much greater smoothness in all temperatures.

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