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The LN IMS Solution is at the top of my list.....Second on the list is the "RND roller bearing", this is due to the "thrust control" of the NUP204E that is used in the RND roller bearing.
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Yogi - I installed the EPS bearing almost a year ago now with 5k miles driven.
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Of these 13 people, 2 of them didn't even know they had the IMS Solution fitted previously.
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The motor in my 02 C2 was rebuilt prior to me buying it and reused the IMS Solution, which was installed several years earlier to when the head developed a crack under one of the valve guides.
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Mine was in 2019 but I can attest to the fact that Jake discounted me $2k because I had previously installed The Solution� 👍😃
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The motor in my 02 C2 was rebuilt prior to me buying it and reused the IMS Solution, which was installed several years earlier to when the head developed a crack under one of the valve guides.
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After months and months of repairing the car's systems to pass inspection and then months and months later to get my registration and plates I can finally drop the engine on my 102K mile 996.2 C2 Cab.
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The LN IMS Solution is at the top of my list.....Second on the list is the "RND roller bearing", this is due to the "thrust control" of the NUP204E that is used in the RND roller bearing.
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After months and months of repairing the car's systems to pass inspection and then months and months later to get my registration and plates I can finally drop the engine on my 102K mile 996.2 C2 Cab. In preparation I've made a few tool purchases to ease my extraction. Here's what I got:
HF Special -
Motorcycle Lift
along with the transmission lift I already own.
Ebay Special - Camshaft Alignment Tool Kit
Anything else I should consider?
Plan:
Rebuild top end with this:
FCP Euro Kit
Clutch Kit
Inspect/Replace IMS Bearing and install DOF mod (leaning towards TuneRS) - Anyone have the bearing tool they'd be willing to lend me?
Inspect/Replace piston rings
AOS replacement - Considering Ultimate AOS but it's a bit $$$
997 Oil return tubes in sump
Inspect/Replace Timing setup (only what's necessary) - Do the chains stretch enough to justify replacement?
Motor mount replacement
Fuel injector (Clean and refresh only - Bosch injectors are back ordered indefinitely)
Inspect/Replace spark plug tubes
Replace water pump and thermostat
Replace Accessory belt
Inspect/Replace pulleys/tensioner
Any other recommendations/advice? Of course all of this will be documented and published on YouTube.
Replace all the vacuum lines and the oil fill tube. The oil fill tube may look okay, but they get extremely brittle and can develop small cracks or come apart just as you get the engine back in the car. Oh and +1 on the UAOS while the engine is out.
I have some borescope footage that indicates oil is either getting past the rings or the AOS is going.
Totally agree that cracking open too much will lead me to suffer from While I�m In There Syndrome again. 😂
Why did you get the car to pass inspection, emissions?, and then get plates, only to then drop the engine and rebuild?
I am in a similar boat. Mine would not pass emissions so I replaced the secondary air injection system. While there i replaced the vacuum system and AOS. I did the stock unit because of the price. I figure I'm good for another 100k miles.
I scoped the cylinders and found score on #4, 5, & 6. I'm also leaking oil on #2. I'm guessing rings. it's burning coolant so it would appear I have a head gasket leaking.
My plan is to have the engine rebuilt. Looking around, but probably sending it to LN to have the pros do it. Too much money to learn on.
I wish you the best,
I'm in the middle of a similar project. Engine on the ground. Looking at pulling the heads to clean up the valves. Was just googling gasket sets today. FCP, not sure what brand is "OE Supplier", and also Pelican, which has 4 different brand options (V Reinz, "OEM" brand, "Orig Equip Supplier", and Porsche for varying prices. I've used a ton of Reinz gasket sets on other porsches for years w/o issue. Are there any of these other brands or sources to avoid?
Are the existing head bolts necessary to replace (stretch/yield), or just a good idea?
No disrespect intended - just confusion about why anyone would choose an inferior product and take a chance on ruining a very expensive engine just to save a few $ up front.
Don't worry, Jake Raby will not respond to these IMS bearing threads unless the facts of his patent are communicated incorrectly.
Personally, the problem we've tried to communicate through our videos on PCA and Rennvision is that LOAD is what ultimately kills these bearings in this application. Lots of people think the core contributor is lack of lubrication, but it's LOAD. The OEM 6204 in Yogi's car is the worst offender. The TuneRS DOF bearing is basically an OEM type open bearing with direct oil feed. This does not address the load issue. Basically, the TuneRS believes that lubrication is the core issue for bearing failure. The plain bearing is what the factory used to support the other end of intermediate shaft in the M96/M97 cars and what they use to support BOTH ends of the IMS in Mezger engines and all aircooled Porsches that preceded the 996. That's why the LN Engineering IMS Solution is the best product for these engines.
Real question...how did you determine the inferiority of a product, are you parroting what people say here, or are there a consumer report with failure rates across the products, got a link to it?
Don't tell me it's what the vendor says.
Keep in mind folks that this is a base model, C2 Cab. It will rarely see a track and will be relegated to spending the rest of its life on public streets. The C2 has made it to 102K miles on it's original IMS bearing and is just now showing a small RMS leak ( I hope it's an RMS). Either way, I'm replacing the bearing. From a project standpoint I'm not just refreshing the engine but the ENTIRE car as it was used and abused in Florida for many years. I paid 15K and have poured north of 6K into already. That's not including what I listed in the original post. So it's just not prudent to blow my load on a $2K solution.
@Oddjob
Those brands you mentioned are respected aftermarket parts providers that also white label their stuff for OEM use. IE, Meyle = Porsche suspension. Bosche = Porsche fuel injectors. Although I could find the cylinder head kit cheaper from Rock Auto or ECS, FCP offers a lifetime warranty which can't be beat when it comes to seals and gaskets.
@Eurocarguy911
I had it inspected so I could pay my taxes on it. The state of Texas requires out of state cars pass emissions and doesn't like you delaying registering your car and will penalize you for it. Luckily with some foresight you can avoid the fees but I also wanted to LEGALLY drive it around! I've put less than 1K miles on it since I've owned it and most of the miles were with a plate from one of my other cars. I also dumped $$ into a complete suspension refresh (only to jack the car up and have it sit until I finish the engine). That was done for YouTube content as I can't have big gaps between project phases or I risk losing my audience. I also purchased a 1995 E320 Wagon for content while I work on the M96.
Why did it take so long to get your plates? I only ask because I'm in Texas as well and just bought a car off of BaT coming in from Florida so I'll be going through the process here in a few days.
Because the car wouldn't pass inspection. Not engine related but rather other items were missing like a rear view mirror, working wipers, horn, signals, etc. I needed a new windshield because the existing one cracked exactly where the mirror goes and it broke off. Getting glass for a classic 911 is hard, especially when you need special trim.
You should check out my channel to see the full picture. I suspect that a BAT car won't have the issues mine had.
Ah okay. Thanks for the reply. I thought maybe the state was running that slow on getting registrations and plates issued. I bought an old Corvette so it won't need emissions testing or anything.
You won't lose your audience. You might make me wait, of course, but how can I resist just a mouse click to catch up where you left off?
Personally, I think you are a hilarious glutton for punishment. I kinda HAVE to watch.
Nice! Glad to see other people using the same solution. I�ll be using the transmission lift I bought from HF as well. It�s red and white. If it can hold a tiptronic transmission it can hold this little guy.
As far as registration delay, there is ABSOLUTELY a delay with the state. It took almost 8 weeks to get my plates and tag.
Ok, I won�t tell you �it�s what the vendor says� (that would be a stupid argument - in fact, it�s stupid that you even suggested it�). Parroting? No sir� I did quite a bit of research on all the products available when I was getting ready to change my imsb (this was around 2016 after I had owned my car for 2-2 1/2 years). While they were a little more expensive than the others that were around at the time, FSI/LN Engineering clearly had the best/ most developed product with the most backing data to prove any claims they made. Not so with many of the others. Two points�
1) It�s a �copy cat product� - this is not to say it doesn�t or can�t work. Also, it looks like they�ve done quite a bit of updating since I researched them before I did my IMSB.
2) taking the oil from the oil port on the head doesn�t seem ideal to me for a couple reasons (filtering, oil pressure).
I could go on, but I�ve already spent more time than it�s worth to argue this point. I still recommend using LNE retrofit or The IMSSolution as they are the best most developed products available.
ok yeah, so nothing new, just your product choice. question is still how do you arrive at such a generic statement of "
FSI/LN Engineering clearly had the best/ most developed product" while taking a dump on a guy picking a different product.
My point was that we should respect other's decisions on what they think is best for their cars. I've seen in the past few days you argue or make comments that are unnecessary to three different people about what they have chosen to use, I don't understand what you gain by that?
I have no doubt they're a superior product and I value your input. For me, it would be like putting lipstick on a pig. If my C2 had half the mileage and half the issues I wouldn't even think twice. Now if you told me that the resale value would offset the cost then I'd be dumb not to invest in it.
There�s no doubt in my mind that if you put the IMS Solution in the car, you could absolutely add the cost of the part to the sale (and you�d get it). What many people seem to forget is that the �solution� is reusable (unlike the retrofit (ball) or roller bearings...
I don�t gain anything besides trying to point out potentially better products/decisions, and trying to shed some light on more affordable yet questionable products. One of the things that the low resale value of the 996 has created is a massive base of �bargain hunter� car buyers. In turn, now that folks have been able to buy these cars for pennies on the dollar, they�re trying to modify/fix them for the same kind of money.
Believe me, I would if I could. They�re sold out in my surrounding area and even the stores that claim to have it, don�t. So my second option was this lift. It�ll work fine.
Can you point me to where this is stated? I've looked at the ims solution very closely before having the retrofit done and have not seen such claim not have I heard of anyone transferring their solution from one motor to another.
The motor in my 02 C2 was rebuilt prior to me buying it and reused the IMS Solution, which was installed several years earlier to when the head developed a crack under one of the valve guides. Both top and bottom end were rebuilt. So at least in the case of my car the IMS Solution was reusable.
I know them both personally. Jake Raby is credited with the invention of the IMS Solution. Charles' name is on the patent documentation. They both partnered in the development of the IMS Solution along with other IMS Retrofit products offered by LN Engineering.
That's the idea, and a great benefit. The IMS Solution bushing doesn't even have to be removed from the IMS shaft assembly.
In 2021 we had 13 of our builds that previously had been fitted with the IMS Solution, and 100% of them were reused without requiring replacement. This saved every one of those owners the cost of a new IMS Solution, since the costs were discounted from the proposed cost the engine would have had otherwise if the Solution had not been fitted. Of these 13 people, 2 of them didn't even know they had the IMS Solution fitted previously. They bought the car, and believed that the IMS issues had not been rectified, so getting this news was a big surprise for their wallet. Unfortunately both of them had been previously ripped off by the seller when they ended up with cars that had bore scoring, and of course- they didn't opt for an invasive PPI.
Of these 13 reused Solutions, 4 of them had bore scoring bring them this way, the remainder were elective big- bore builds. I just finished my 2021 stats last week, and found this interesting, along with the continued elevation of early 996s that fill our schedule.
I have no idea.. I haven't dealt with any sales of the Solution since I handed that off over a decade ago. I honestly don't even know what they sell for.
Never a discount on FSI engines, that I do know :-)
It took me more than two months to finally get the HF heavy lift table, had to keep calling the HF around my area till they knew one was arriving to that store, finally got confirmation one was arriving and was waiting at store for it, at that price it was worth waiting for it. its great to have around. I read L&N was having a 20% off on the solution bearing next week. need to pick up another one for second car.
I modified the handle on the HF lift table to drop all the way down, it allowed the engine and trans to fit on the table with no need for trans jack, I use a small motorcycle scissor lift to support trans on lift table, even with the handle in the down position it is easy to move around with engine and trans on it.
Well despite all the crap I�ve given the two previous owners of this car on how poorly they took care of it, it appears they at least upgraded their IMS at some point to an EPS. I�m not familiar with this brand. Anyone?
I've had this bearing in my car too. I actually thought it was the original version 1 of LN retrofit but previous owner did a crappy job documenting. With that, it came out in near perfect condition (to my and my mechanic's surprise) after around 7 years of service time. It's a roller type bearing. I know it's not a popular choice on here but I have no problems with it and it clearly did well in my engine. Here is what it looked like after 7 years and 50k ish miles:
That looks new!
It appears they "upgraded" their RMS to the
EPS bearing seal
as well. It's leaking so I think I'll be yanking that out. Anyone use that?
For RMS I'd definitely go with a Porsche unit. With that, it's not like those don't leak either. Mine had some minor sweating so we just replaced it with OEM. It's a cheap part.
Yogi - I installed the EPS bearing almost a year ago now with 5k miles driven. The most popular cylindrical, at $579 with over 5k installs reported and with zero reported or found failures (extensive searching) I found it to be the best value*. PM me if you want more info about my experience with the company and installation.
Not a lot of objectivity here on LN/Rennlist though with many parrots and echoers. EPS was booted from the forum long ago with threads deleted. I mean "Solution" = zero failures and "Cylindrical" = zero failures, who can say which is better, right, objectively speaking that is. I'm not pumping any brand here either, I can't find ANY cylindrical failures.
If you are splitting the case without removing the bearing from the IMS, I'd inspect it and ask the company about reusing it (they are very responsive). If you pull the bearing I would not reuse it. It would be good to ask the prior owner when it was installed too. You might be able to match it to work shown on a carfax report.
Looking forward to more YT on this subject.
*zbomb - even for Porsche, value is relative
I'll just leave these pics right here..
Now. if you will just post a pic of the LN IMS "Solution" that has failed???
I'm not a fan of the EPS roller bearing " thrust control"..... IF you MUST save a few bucks go with LN's roller bearing ie "RND roller bearing" , it's an NUP204E type and has the "factory thrust control", a much better design...
Skip - you are proving the lack of objectivity here on RL related to all products LN. When you post pictures and simply state "i'll just leave these pics right here" you don't tell the whole story, or any of it. Those pictures are from a FB post a year ago, posted by the 'Certified Solution installer" in N. Carolina who did not identify himself as such. So, we have one of a couple dozen LN installers yank a bearing out and post what a failure it is. Could I be wrong in thinking he might be bashing a competitor? In fact, you yourself defended that EXACT EPS bearing in the comments from that very post here:
Of course this was from before you had a business relationship with LN. When you speak of the "thrust control", much like the thrust bearing on the crank, these surfaces need to "bed in" and wear to do their job. it's impossible to not show wear. i would imagine even a removed "Solution" would show wear, right? Other damage to that bearing appears to be extraction related. So, we have the "Certified installer" who extracted the bearing (biased), we have the inventor of the Ultimate AOS, now made by LN with the price doubled (biased), who's next? (I haven't been berated by JR's video guy yet
)
Is this an example of a failed EPS bearing? i have no idea. But i do know the bias runs deep and deeper here on LN/Rennlist.
I wasn't "defending" the EPS bearing in that statement, I was merely pointing out that IF he had a LOT of metal in the filter, that it didn't come from that bearing... Yes the bearing is failing and in short time would have been severe and led to a catastrophic failure.
I made my mind up about IMS bearings a long time ago. The LN IMS Solution is at the top of my list.....Second on the list is the "RND roller bearing", this is due to the "thrust control" of the NUP204E that is used in the RND roller bearing. My bias is simply due to the designs, it does not have anything to do with WHO makes it..
I have my own designs for IMSB, but they are too simular to the LN Solution and the RND roller bearing to be a player in the market..IMHO the market is covered...
Also the UAOS is NOT made by LN, ,, It is made here by me , other than the billet Accumulator which is made in Chicago by George. LN is just an Authorized re-seller of my UAOS., which BTW I have just expanded the application to 986 987 and 997..
Oh and the price did not increase in the UAOS, just simply dropped the "Carbon Fiber/Nylon Accumulator" due to issues I had with the Manufacturer I hired to make them. The Billet Annodized Black Accumulators were just so much nicer and no issue with George making them, even though the cost is more, it is worth it ...I just dropped the "low end option"..
i purchased my car in January. Anyway as soon as got home I called the tax office to pay taxes, register the car and get the plates, (I live in Harris county). They gave me a May 5th appointment. Not sure how long it�s taking now since a lot of the pandemic effects are less , but if it wasn�t for the pandemic I would normally would have waited less than three weeks to get this done.
my car was in great shape so it was easy to pass the inspection.
well done. Now I know you need content for your channel but some things you were saying make no sense and are going to cost. 1. Rebuilding top end- if you don�t rebuild the bottom all that may do as another fellow said is put more strain on the bottom end. 2. You spoke about oil rings. - you should had monitor oil consumption, yes I know you did not drove your car 1,000 miles. Putting new rings on cylinder that have lost a bit of their shape is a waste. Let�s say you where using a quart in 500-600 miles not an issue. 3. clutch rms and IMs. You have a higher mileage engine the prudent thing would have been to wait until you where needing a clutch to get this stuff done, as long as you checked and there was no debris in sump oil filter etc. 4. AoS our buddy Tex squirrel has a manometer, so you could have checked out the condition of the aos. 5. Injectors. With the durametric also Tex squirrel you could have checked your fuel trims. Should had run injector, fuel system cleaner then GDI thru intake booth. No disrespect here but you�ll end up spending $30k on a car that�s not worth $22 and you are not enjoying it (I mean driving it). Don�t know the economics of a you tube channel with the amount of subscribers, views you get. I�ll be watching your next video
I wasn't very thorough with my list, more high-level. Trust me, what needs fixin' will get fixed. Case in point, my DMFW is really scorched, so I bought a new one. The engine has been scoped already (I thought you said you watch my videos
), AOS is definitely getting replaced, etc. Engine removal video is FINALLY ready. Enjoy!!!
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yes sir i have seen every one of your pepper videos. I definitely enjoyed the one with the spiders. Yes I saw your boroscope. I even saw your conclusion on Olaf , I was interested to see your total cost. I�ll be watching this one tonight. Maybe you could come and do some Porsche trips cars and coffees, you definitely need to go to next years concourse de elegance in kemah, more than 300 cars. You may even want to do the cars and cocktails in tomball little Woodrows, is the last Sunday of the month, I went yesterday and had a blast. All kinds of cars, maclarens Ferraris, Porsches etc. Just giving you some ideas for additional content. God speed sir.
This guy created something that doesn�t exist. Is a 996.1 fake badge.
Ferraris. Car brands tend to stick together when they park.
I saw at least 4 GT3.
P cars.
A 1979 928, car was parked for three years. This is his second time out. We arrived at the same time.
actually saw your video twice. Definitely whoever took care of the car before you went cheap about everything. Sir your car has the wrong coolant. What you drained out of it is normal ethylene glycol. Coolants have to be compatible with the surfaces they come in contact with, anyway there are all kind of coolant technologies, oat,hoat, etc. Organic acid tech, hybrid organic acid tech, just to name a few. Using the wrong coolant over time will give you all kinds of problems. Anyway the picture attached is the correct coolant for our cars. You can buy this at advance auto parts, I actually got this peak product on sale, Valvoline zerex also makes a product for our cars and off course there is the Porsche branded product which will cost you and arm and a leg. I am stating all of this because I used to teach people all over the world about this in addition to lubricants. A final tough, i personally run less than 50 percent coolant as close as possible as 33 percent. Here with our climate we don�t have to worry that much about freezing, it�s the hot temps that we need to worry about. Make sure you put the right fluid back in the system. Appreciated all your explanations about things such as secondary air pump. Keep up the good work.
I got this on sale at $15.99. I seen it as high as $19.99.
Ya know, I think I�ll knew that. The Porsche labeled stuff I got from FCP Euro is G40. Good thing I drained it. 😬
I will definitely be doing a post project assessment once I quit spending money. I decided to do the welding myself.
yogi this Saturday the get together is at formula garage. Shriev the owner would probably let you film, inside there are a GT2RS a speedster, a maclaren, a viper, a $100k racing Porsche flat six engine. Plus he probably shows up in his gt3 rs. The place has a lot of arcades, formula 1 simulators. It�s also a air bnb and event center. Whoever like the garastisi will love seen a video of this place.
Watched the video. I suggest anyone attempting this, read and do your homework (Pelican Parts has a great Tech section) first. It could have been done quicker and cleaner...But, live and learn.
Live and learn for sure. This is my first flat 6 engine removal and I followed my workshop manual and best practices and still missed the last two coolant hoses. Plus the fuel line is different between the 3.4 and 3.6 too. It was a blast doing it with a fellow youtuber and it added a ton of back and forth banter. Lots of fun.
All of us non-professional wannabe mechanics (even the more seasoned ones like Yogi) face a common hurdle: almost every job with be the first time we�ve done that job. No amount of reading or YouTube watching can prepare you for what happens when you actually apply tool to car.
I admire yogi and all guys that do this kind of work in their own cars, many years ago I would wrench in vws, euro bemmers and benzes. No
w I like giving the work to my mechanic, who�s 20 years younger than me and in addition to the work he does on his home garage works the rest of the time at a Porsche shop. So he knows ours cars extremely well.
I think this can also be said about professional mechanics just starting out. Although they probably have a mentor assisting. I do not. It's just me and my mad googling skillz.
Which will cause you more trouble than it will save you in lots of cases related to these engines. No information, and mechanical inclination is better than the wrong information that has been "parroted" over and over again by those with little to no direct experience.
Yogi - check out the "Porsche 996, 997, 986 and 987 engine builders" Facebook group. It's a private group you need to be admitted to but it's full of knowledgeable people that have completed successful engine work and are sharing lots of good info. It's a great resource that you should find useful as you work on the pulled motor.