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Unfortunately, used R8s are pretty pricey (100k+) not to mention that they are an Audi.
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Owner used the track insurance then to replace all the broken parts.
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The Apex wheels are superb wheels and probably the best 18� non-OE choice for that car.
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Track insurance company may have looked at it and decided to write a check for 30k and was done with it.
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I don�t have any videos of the engine running right now as the car is in storage due to the winter (I may take it out if I decide to sell it and can definitely do some cold starts and videos of the car running.
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Hi all,
Apologies if this is not in the right forum, but I bought a low mileage 2003 Porsche 996 Carrera last year and although I am still enjoying it, I am thinking of pulling the trigger on a dream car sometime soon. This means I will have to sell the 996. I’ve seen the market cost of these 996’s go upwards in the past year, but I see very few 996’s with a rebuilt title for sale so I’m having a hard time thinking of what I could sell it for. I bought the car with a rebuilt PA title - My understanding was that in 2005 the car was in an accident and I have all the documentation of things that were replaced. As I went through the documentation, my opinion was that there was some fraud going on (receipts from the accident did not add up; the previous owner agreed). I had the car PPI’d by a Porsche dealer in PA and it passed with flying colors. It has not given me any issues in 4k miles of ownership and is in really good shape inside & out. I was curious to hear from the forum had any thoughts. Here are some of the details:
-2003 Porsche Carrera (arctic silver)
-34,000 original miles
-6 speed manual
-Has replaced IMS and RMS complete
-New Clutch at 29k miles
-black leather interior
-fabspeed maxflo exhaust
-18 inch apex wheels with new pilot sport 4s tires
Options? Photo of options sticker under drunk lid? Sound recording/video of engine running both cold and fully warmed up? There are lots of variables. Difficult to impossible to throw a price out without specific info. The best way to do it imo would be to give ALL the info you have and let the chips fall where they may. The salvage title is a big one... The main thing you can be sure of, is that it�s worth more now than it was a year or two ago... Good luck
Appreciate the thoughts. I don�t have any videos of the engine running right now as the car is in storage due to the winter (I may take it out if I decide to sell it and can definitely do some cold starts and videos of the car running. But I am positive there�s no engine ticking, knocking etc. ). Here are some options:
-Heated front seats
-Porsche Stability Management
-Bose High End Sound System
-Multi disc CD changer
-Black standard leather
-Power seat package
-Xenon Headlamp package
-Artic Silver Metallic Hardtop
OP - Nice car from description…however, as dporto alludes (and he doesn’t pull punches), to maximize you’re sale potential; a couple of things will help you. Durametric info for cam deviations and over rev, etc. Clutch replacement at 29,000 is pretty early. Mention specifics about repairs done post-accident. Suspension stock or upgraded? Where are the original wheels? The videos will be asked for by prospects. Think as if you’re putting this on BaT and you’ll make the effort pay off.
I've bought and sold a few rebuilt cars and rebuilt one myself. General rule of thumb is 2/3 clean retail value but with the current market it could vary depending on the car.
Makes sense. I have the printouts from the Porsche dealership. When I actually post the car for sale I�ll include this info too. The suspension is stock. I forgot to put in my original post that I had new spark plugs, coil packs, oem rotors/ pads, and stainless steel brake lines done to it. I don�t know have original wheels, the P/O swapped them with some aftermarket wheels.
Nice looking car.
Luckily (IMHO) the PO didn't buy crappy looking aftermarket wheels.
I agree with everything above, including the 2/3 salvage title price.
The more info you give, good or bad, the better it will sell for.
It would make a great track car for someone at 2/3 the price. In 20 years, no one will care about whether it was totaled or not.
As a side note, don't k now what your dream car is, but the 996 has been mine for 20 years.
Feel like in general it would be a good car for someone if all the work was done properly. I would be interested to know the damage because as a 2005 it was still a relatively new car so it would have to take a decent hit to get totaled? no? I rebuilt a Jetta GLI once and at the time they were still selling for good money, 15k for a clean one. I ended up rebuilding the car myself for $3k and a third of that was paint. Had I waited or bought used parts it could have been done for less. Point being, there are so many different ways a car could be totaled.
Thats what I�m saying! In 2005 the car was still practically new to be totaled out. From the documents and receipts I have, there are receipts that were submitted for things that don�t even make sense if the car was in an accident (eg like interior plastic parts ). I even have pictures that were submitted to the insurance company that show the front bumper and rear bumper taken off the car. Like no damage to them and literally looks like someone took them off and said they needed to be replaced. This is why the P/O suggested that it seemed like it may have been in a minor accident, but then made to be much worse to get the insurance to total it. Idk how strict insurance was nearly 20 years ago though
It�s possible I suppose. Porsche did provide the vehicle analysis log and it doesn�t appear the car logged many over revves so that was a good sign for me
If it was a track accident back in the mid 2000's, he probably had a minimum of a 10k deductible (which was common at that time) with an agreed value. As an example, could have hit wet grass and damaged one side of the car. Track insurance company may have looked at it and decided to write a check for 30k and was done with it. No damage to engine and the vast majority of the car. He may have banged up the inside of the car during the accident. Owner used the track insurance then to replace all the broken parts. Car may be perfectly straight and fine.
All is speculation on my part, but a thought.
Sounds like you need to contact the original owner to find out the details if it's killing you to know. May help in your resale values to know, or may not.
Either way, the car looks great in the picture. Why not make it your dream car?
Ah, it�s not killing me to know as it was so many years ago and all I care about is it�s working normally now and all is well.
I�m taking quite a large leap in terms of dream car and am looking at an AMG GT or an R8. Very different than the 996 but hot damn are they expensive
If there was interior damage, it may have been a stolen recovery. I have a friend who has bought these cars over the years through a friend of his who has a dealer/auction license. These are usually the best cars to get, as they rarely have structural damage and can be rebuilt fairly easily (usually electronics ripped out, minor body/paint damage, sometimes glass etc.).
Good point... I would think so, sure - but you never know with Carfax... I don�t put a lot of faith in them. I�m just not sure otherwise why an insurance company would total a car that didn�t have damage greater than the value of the car. Often in stolen recoveries, the cars are recovered after the insurance has already paid out on it - hence the auction.
What you have here is a car that appears to be in great shape with a story. Like I said before, in 20+ years, when there are less 996s available, no one will really care as long as the car is in incredible shape.
However, selling it today for a good price may depend on a solid explanation. I would want to know if I owned the car, was looking to sell it for top dollar, or if I was looking to buy the car. Flood, street accident, stolen, track accident, whatever.
I owned an M3 that was in an accident at the track, slid into a wall. The owner paid for everything out of pocket so it never showed up on a carfax report. He did have pictures and documentation though and besides a good eye the only way you would know is that the parts that were replaced did not have the vin stamps on them that BMW uses. I really like R8s, I would rock an older v8 one with the gated manual in a heartbeat.
Unfortunately, used R8s are pretty pricey (100k+) not to mention that they are an Audi. Once the bumper to bumper warranty is up, you are looking at very expensive service costs. Love Audi's. Still have 2 and have owned 8 over the years. Bottom line is the 996 is cheap to service in relation to an out of warranty Audi. Can't speak to the AMG, but I bet it's a money pit for servicing.
We can belly-ache all we want about oil starvation, IMS, bore scoring, etc. But the 996 is cheaper to maintain over time, including an engine rebuild, and fun as he'll to drive in relation to other more expensive alternatives. Many of which suffer from the same issues, that we don't hear about, because there are less AMG/R8 cars on the road. And most will never track them.
I'll take a Porsche 996 any day and build it to my specs.
He'll, the aftermarket for parts alone for the 996 versus the limited parts aftermarket for the R8 and AMG should be a convincer.
Great price. Nice work!
As I mentioned, I love Audi's. IMHO I think besides Porsche, they are the best. But I would rather sink 40k into a well maintained 996 and then spend 30k on an engine rebuild that eliminates all the weak points, than buy a 70k R8 for many reasons. Most of which is that you will eventually need to sink at least 30k into the R8 for a rebuild, and the ongoing service costs will end up killing you in relation to the 996.
But hey, it doesn't matter what I think. What matters is what the OP thinks.
All,
Appreciate all the comments here! I actually decided to test the waters here on the forum. I posted the 996 for sale:
https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1279026
Probably not the best time to sell a car just as we are about to start winter in NJ but let see how this goes!
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